#3642 - Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - Editor: Jerry
Something for everyone in this issue:
Some straight nonduality from Rodney Stevens;
a shout out from nonduality pioneer Sandeep Chatterjee to join his forum on
and a look at the nonduality of UFO study, including current posts and
oldies from 2001. In that spirit we name September "Take a Martian to lunch in
another dimension Month."
From the Radiance of Being blog of Rodney Stevens:
Question: ...I was especially moved by the
following description of your final understanding, as I believe Balsekar calls
it--"So here John [Wheeler] was saying that what I had been searching for was
not only 'fully present,' but it was fully present at this very moment. So I
thought to myself, 'What am I looking at but--apparently--not seeing?'...Again,
'What I am looking at, but--apparently--not seeing?"....And suddenly, there it
was! Utter peace and spaciousness! Felt-awareness without end!'"
Rodney: Yes, that was it--the end of
the "story," so to speak. Life continued, but as Existence itself, which
includes the appearances of thoughts, a body/mind, a job description,
etc. The ease with which this understanding can takes place can't adequately be
put into words. Suddenly, you are seeing something that not only has always,
always been directly in front of you, it has been you precisely. It is
beyond time and all expression, and yet, it is the most basic and most evident
Question: I also appreciate your
blog very much and find a deep resonance with your expression. We share a common
experience in our earlier searching - I too became fascinated with the Catholic
Church and joined it - this was after exploring many disciplines and teachings,
both eastern and western.
Rodney: Yes, all of those years,
disciplines, practices, and teachings (East and West). I still have fond
memories of certain aspects of the Catholic Church: The cool stone floors, the
heartfelt a cappella sections of the service, and the sweet-smelling
incense, with its high-ascending smoke. But no anger or regret broils over my
decades of searching. There are a number of reasons for that. Perhaps the most
obvious one is that there is no longer a self-image from which that kind of
regret can arise. Would it have been great to come to this understanding sooner?
Sure! But it isn't something that I ponder. It happened as it happened. And my
main purpose here is simply to point out to seekers and readers that this seeing
and understanding needn't take any time at all, much less years or decades. You
are already that which you are seeking. Allow these words to nudge you into
seeing that which is already perfectly present.
Question: Yes, already perfectly present! It's
a notion that I completely by passed for the longest time.
Rodney: Same here, of course.
This is Sandeep from your sordid past.
How are you., old friend?
Jerry, if you feel it appropriate, kindly post this message to the
I have started a Yahoo Group titled
"A Wholistic Approach to Diabetes", located at:
The List description is as follows:
A wholistic approach to the Diabetic condition, so as to augment and
support the currently prevailing treatment of the Diabetic condition.
The wholistic approach will be based on the good old sweating out through
arduous physical activities, dovetailed to one's daily life activities, Yoga
asans(postures) and Pranayam techniques specifically aimed at the Diabetic
condition, the ingestion of natural substances like, Neem , Meithi (Fenugreek
AND the resolution of mental and emotional stress, a very active
contributor of increased blood sugar.
Does this wholistic approach work?
The List-owner was diagnosed for a diabetic condition about 5 years
Today repeated Fasting sugar, PP Sugar, HB1Ac and the Lipid cholesterol
profile readings are all of a non-diabetic normal persons readings.
And these results achieved with no chemical medications for the last 12
Yes it can be done. I have done it. You can.
Sure it is not easy......sure the results will vary for each
person......but a significant improvement in the diabetic condition and in the
related side effects of the diabetic condition WILL occur.
It is clarified that this forum will not intend to replace the doctor
The decision to alter, amend or even eliminate prevailing
chemical medications, in face of the improvements in the diabetic condition
following this wholistic approach.....SHOULD AND MUST be taken in full and
complete consultation of the attending medical doctor.
This forum will also be a place to share one's own travails, distresses,
agonies, life issues in one's journey in tackling the diabetic condition, a
space for support, for encouragement, for laughter and for tears.....a place
where one can trust to reveal.
Some level of moderation will exercised to
ensure no abuse of this trust and to eliminate spammers.
Diabetes, like any other disease is a dis-ease.
The return to ease is the focus here.
While none of the members here may have an diabetic issue.........I am sure
you may know of somebody who has.
Send the details of the List description and ask him or her to come over by
visiting the above URL.
Photo: James Gilliland
Oh yeah, Jerry if you're snooping around this area
recommend looking into James Gilliland.
He has a ranch in
Washington state in an area that produces
so many UFOs reliably, that
people (scientists & regular folk alike)
from all over the world go
there to watch the 'fireworks'.
Here's his site: http://www.eceti.org/Eceti.IndexII.html
He has a 90
minute DVD which is up on YouTube
(9 parts) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--5OMu_ZqVA
Thought of going up there myself.
summer.Jerry Katz writes:
At one of our local gatherings a guy showed up who claims to attract
lights where he lives here in Nova Scotia. I know a couple of people
went to where he lives and they say they think they saw unusual
says he attracts the ETs by a certain kind of transmission of
Gilliland speaks of the need for an open mind, a loving heart, and
intent as the formula for attracting ufos of similar
Gilliland is "nonduality meets ET." He's the "real deal"
as they say.
There's no sense of exploitation or ego with him. He says, "I'm
important. What's important is this information gets out to
people and help
people awaken to the wisdom within themselves. And if you
are nobody there's
nobody that needs defending when you bring out this
He's the right guy for these times to carry on
the tradition of connecting
GENE POOLE from Highlights
You wrote (in part):
"I'm in favor
of revealing these UFO
secrets. I think it would be funny
to see how it's explained and to see how
people react and to see how
the reaction is handled."
secrets' are revealed, it will be difficult to ever
again, see that coffee
table as just a coffee table. Or to be able to
watch TV, with the assumption
that what is being viewed, is the same
for everyone, or that it is even
being broadcast from 'somewhere'. It
will take a magnificent effort to
forget what was revealed, but knowing
humanity as I do, a lot of forgetting
will take place right as the
'truth' is being revealed, as it is being
revealed, just as right now,
we are bathed in the 'truth', but for some
reason, choose to be
occupied with 'other things'.
Maybe the last
truth to be revealed, and the easiest one to deny, is
that we are the truth.
The same truth as the mysterious UFOs and the
many species of occupant, not
to mention the many time-traveling,
innocent-abducting, and species saving-and-destroying,
of pure, unadulterated awareness. Just like that coffee
next to you, which you naively and innocently 'think' is
simply a hunk
of wood, metal, and plastic.
To know that it all
retains its shape and form _by its own volition_,
is an awesomely disturbing
perception. Maybe that is why it is never
On the other
hand, nonattachment may allow everything to be simply what
it actually is,
unconstrained by assumptions of apparent historicity
and/or practicality. In
the face of this reality, human concerns have
no context in which to
manifest; this equals spontaneous loss of
identity for everyone, everywhere,
Of course, we 'nondualists' are already 'one jump ahead of
in that regard. Holding no assumptions or expectations, we will
laugh we it is revealed that the universe is being 'run' by a cartoon
duck (and probably not any cartoon duck you have ever seen, BTW!).
The ancient Tibetans are even more 'jumps ahead', with their
concept/revealing of 'Display' technology. Couched as it is in the
jargon of 'spirituality', who would ever guess that it is literally
Or as true as 'truth' can be, when cut loose from its final
Universal Test Pattern:
Kelvin writes in Highlights #615:
I recently took a break from my Advaita and
nonduality books and read
Extraterrestrial Contact by Steven Greer, M.D. As
it turns out, the guy is
a nondualist, so I can't get away from it even if I
The evidence he presents that we are being visited by
very compelling. There is so much of it, in fact, that
your eyes eventually
start to glaze over. There have been mass sightings of
UFOs in recent years
in Belgium and Mexico before literally hundreds, if not
witnesses. Greer has, since 1992 or so, been spearheading what
he calls the
CE-5 Initiative, in which trained teams go to areas of recent
and attempt to make contact with them. In one case, Greer and his
to a place in England where UFOs and crop circles were appearing.
did make visual contact with one or more UFOs, and they were
each other with lights back and forth. The team also mentally
specific design to the UFOs. The next day, that exact design
appeared as a
crop circle in a nearby field! This design is now the logo of
organization Greer founded
But the most amazing part of the
book concerns Greer's claims about what the
government knows about this
matter. He states, among many other things:
- "The US government, at
least at the level of a highly compartmentalized
above top secret group, has
known about the reality of these ETS
[extraterrestrial spacecraft] and their
occupants since at least 1946."
- "The US government possesses several
ETS and the deceased bodies of
several EBEs [extraterrestrial biological
- The government group or groups that possess this knowledge
physical evidence are operating beyond Constitutional authority, and
elected leaders do not have control over them.
- These secret
groups have reverse engineered ET technologies and the
release of these
technologies would transform our world overnight:
"Consider: A technology
which enables energy generation from the
so-called zero point field and which
enables every home, business, factory
and vehicle to have its own source of
power - without an external fuel
source. Ever. No need for oil, gas, coal,
nuclear plants or the internal
combusion engine. And no pollution.
"Consider: A technology using electro-gravitic devices which allows
above surface transportation--no more roadways to cover fertile
since transportation could take place totally above the
"One must consider what will happen when every village in
Africa or South America or China) has devices which can generate
amounts of power without pollution and without spending huge sums of
on fuel. the entire world will be able to develop in an
fashion--without pollution and without billions spent on power
transmission lines and combustible fuels. The have-nots will
Greer and his group CSETI (www.cseti.org) have been planning for
some time a
major public disclosure, with testimony from over a hundred
of them former military and government employees. Many of the
witnesses have never come forward before and will not testify
Congressional immunity. They had hoped to have this event during
Clinton administration, but it was not to be. As I understand it, they
hope to have it sometime early this year.
outlook is evident in his chapter "UFOs, Humanity And
The Full Spectrum of
Reality." Commenting on the debate in the community of
investigators and theorists about whether UFOs are "nuts and
spacecraft or an "interdimensional" phenomenon, Greer
"Could it be that *both* are correct?
"The reconciliation of
these two views is possible by employing a
comprehensive paradigm of reality
which does not fragment 'physical' from
'other dimensional' but which instead
replaces the either/or argument with
and/and. That the predominant western
bias for dualism, separatism and
reductionism has been applied to UFOlogy, as
well as other areas of study,
does not mean that such a perspective in any
way reflects reality. We are
accustomed to speaking of mind-body,
physical-nonphysical as though a real separation exists,
when in actuality
such distinctions are convenient, though linear, mental
discussion of 'other dimensions' assumes that indeed there
dimensions which are somehow separate from this dimension, whatever
"We are reaching the point
where further advances in the physical sciences
will require concomitant
advances in the realm of consciousness or mind. At
that point, we will find
that the interface between mind and matter,
physical and transcendent, is in
reality a matter of perception and
dependent on the level of consciousness of
the perceiver. Our perplexity
over the UFO
phenomenon is in part due to a lack of insight into what it
means to be
human, of the dynamics of mind and consiousness, and a strange
the neat and hypnotic separation between mind and matter,
religion, objective and subjective. Such fragmentation is a
monster of our
own devising, and can be conquered only by evolving to a way
which is inclusive, holistic and unified. In this we find
challenge and the greatest lesson in the UFO
we not fail in this endeavor.
"In its greatest sense, the full spectrum of reality is another way
saying 'God,' and therefore is infinite and all-inclusive. While
generation of scientists and philosophers regard their current knowledge
the apex of all learning, just as surely the next generation will
it. We will not exhaust the full spectrum of reality in this
not in the next. But the path of exploration will remain open
only to the
extent that we hold our minds open to an ever-expanding reality.
as soon as we think we know it all, or say 'aha! That's it!', we
progress and throw a roadblock onto the path of
Dr. Greer's book is available at www.cseti.org