Late NDS Highlights for Saturday past
- View SourceLife gets busy sometimes doesn't it?
Here is a quick look at Saturday.
Jay asked: And as we become aware, what do we do then?
Jan provided: The top-ten of enlightened activities:
1: Set up a website
2: Give in to every subtle desire as all desires have
3: Invent a crunchy jargon to impress both lays and
4: Start teaching to non-existing "others".
5: Write books to help non-existing "others".
6: When not married, marry as it will add "naturalness,
maturity and credibility" to the realization.
7: Only when the above fails, take a try at moksha,
unless at 40+ age.
8: When even that fails, appoint yourself as Sat Guru for
the world at large.
9: Continue to live "normally" as if nothing happened.
10: When even lays start recognizing "bliss radiating
from you", blame it on Reiki practice; it's better for
both peace and business.
Phil adds (with blessings): Who needs to know?
Jay does not become aware, has never become aware, will
never become aware. It is in Awareness that "Jay" appears
to become this or that.
"What do we do then?" --We-- is a very awkward
expression and not really precise. "We do" is really "I
do" but you do nothing. When "you" is seen as fiction
the appearance of doing may or may not persist, but it is
seen as more like impersonal functioning.
Dan says: Nonmoving infinitely deepening movement is the
"reasonless reason" for human being, for "apparently
individual" nonindividual awareness. In fact, it is so
much the reason, that we can't help doing it. We all are
involved in this deepening nonmoving movement.
To see this is to see beyond thought, although thought
can still function (and does).
In fact, all that we consider "our experiencing" is
far past, how long ago? Who can say? Only the Word is
present. And in that Word is life. Music, art, stories,
lives - all
from, of the Word. Our lives are stories of the Word.
awareness, our feelings, are as much from the Word as are
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity. There is nothing new
under the sun.
And that is the beauty of our lives. Only the Word is
new, and it
is ever-born, this moment. Awareness, thought, and
meaning "come together" in this Word.
Pain has a function in life, as does pleasure. It is the
attachment/identification with painful and pleasurable
leads to bifurcation in consciousness. The body staying
until it doesn't is no problem, and pain and pleasure
part in that. You are merely talking about a pin here,
your hand in a Waring Blender and you will withdraw it.
intellectualizing about no pain being felt will be "seen
The pain is felt, the body reacts, yet no one has an
existence as the
separate experiencer of pain. As pain and pleasure are
and as movements occur resulting from these sensations,
pleasure have a relative reality and function. As pain
don't infer an existent entity, reality is ultimately not
in terms of pain/pleasure or the body-mind system.
reality is in no way constrained, involved, or attached
body-mind's reactivity and constellations of internal
The inside/outside dichotomy is interpretive, is
in a conditional sense only, not "ultimately" definitive
including "mind-body" reality.
The body-mind system can function without interpreting a
in here opposed to separate other things "out there".
where inside/outside meet is the point where each defines
other. It is at this "point" that identification with/as
image constellations ends. All of these constellations
organized around a hypothetical center that is inside
out. Without identification, the body-mind can function
"programmed" - live out its life. Awareness simply isn't
to be located "in" it.
What seems from here to cloud the viewing of awareness is
intellectualization. It's emotional reactivity
based on images of threat and images of something
Deep-rooted experiences of hurt and threat are associated
these images. So, from here, it appears that simply
"ending one's identification" with
intellectual thinking, even with conceptualization,
awareness as such an "opening". Full expression of
being "caught" in dichotomized images) further involves
the image-associated identifications that involve
Said simply, memories of shock, hurt, violence,
etc. formulate into images that seek avoidance and
As I see it, this is a "natural human process," not
intellectualization. I believe it occurs prior to
cognizing, quite possibly with birth and even in utero,
and continues after and with intellectual cognizing.
Of course, such bifurcating process of consciousness can
(in "rarified form") along with pursuit of a "spiritual
(as long as there is the identification with avoiding
undesired states and
outcomes, and to have idealized states and outcomes). To
(generally unconscious) formulations around pain, threat,
and self-protection involves work of awareness "at its
(or whatever metaphor you prefer).