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    DR. HARSH K. LUTHAR I came to feed on Thee, but Thou hast fed on me; now I am peaceful, O Arunachala. - Marital Garland of Letters, v. 28 Sri Ramana
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      "I came to feed on Thee, but Thou hast fed on me; now I am
      peaceful, O Arunachala."

      - Marital Garland of Letters, v. 28 Sri Ramana Maharshi



      from Ramana Maharshi:

      "question: Does my realisation help others?

      Ramana Maharshi: Yes, certainly... Realisation of the Self
      is the greatest help that can be rendered to humanity.
      Therefore the saints are said to be helpful, though they
      remain in forests...

      question: Would it not be better if he mixed with others?

      Ramana: There are no others to mix with."


      Could beauty be an action, a verb?


      Only when it 'moves' you.

      Have you ever watched a child 'read' its first words from a
      book?... A hockey team win a championship against a
      stronger team with an overtime goal?... A big 'grouchy'
      looking man share an unexpected word of kindness?... An act
      of final desparation to save a life at the risk of one's
      own?... A light that suddenly appears in eyes full of
      despair as if, suddenly, something is known, something that
      sources in a love greater than can be imagined?

      Or, not knowing what to say and yet finding the perfect
      words to say I love you.


      Beauty is the sight of the universe with perceptiveness no
      longer limited to the constraints of bodily location.



      Any"one" who has meditated (especially "beginners") will
      describe how the most trivial things attempt to rush in to
      fill the vacuum when the mind is first made empty. How the
      most ludicrous distractions appear and flicker upon the
      surface of the mind, sometimes becoming obsessive. Suddenly,
      the body will seem hungry and a vision of food will appear.
      Questions like "Are the bills paid" or "is the alarm set in
      case I fall asleep while meditating?" will seem as important
      and distracting as a diagnosis of terminal cancer. Almost
      anything can appear to appease the vacuum that "nature

      It seems the mind must "get used to" being empty, and learn
      to tolerate that state, as it is not at all the natural
      state of the mind. The mind is ignorant, and chatters
      ceaselessly; that is its nature. This nature takes some
      "temporal space" as well as "mental space" to overcome. Not
      to say that "effort" is involved; simply patience.



      There are many ways to Rome goes the saying. Frankly, I
      didn't attempt to empty the mind in any way; it would have
      been equal to emptying the sea with a teaspoon :) The
      majority of thoughts and feelings are revolving around "I,
      me and mine". Without any effort, the bulk of mental noise
      disappears when "I" disappears. Being sensitive can be a
      nuisance but as every thing has two sides, it becomes an
      advantage in detecting links with "I". Instead of watching
      without interfering with thoughts, it was finding out the
      reason for (triggering) negative thoughts and feelings.
      These could be divided in two categories, the first being
      "stupid me" and the second being "concluding without
      thinking". The first category relates to everything that
      "hurts" because one has a fixed opinion, cannot base it on
      facts and the irritation arises as the friction cannot be
      resolved. The solution was the insight that there is no
      such thing as fixed opinion, a "right" and a "wrong". The
      second category relates to drawing conclusions based on
      perception, like an official who seems to act like a
      grouch. If one considers the fact that no one would chose
      for being a grouch, there has to be a (sad) reason for it so
      instead of arousing antipathy, the behavior arouses
      compassion. Needless to say, my practice resulted in the
      collapse of "how the world was seen". One might say I was
      addicted to thinking but instead of curbing the habit, it
      was programmed for self-destruct (because without a "me" no
      thoughts about "others" will arise either). In this case,
      an empty mind is just a secondary effect. Perhaps the
      lesson is there are neither virtues nor vices, just assets
      and when used properly, they reveal the "map to Rome" :)



      heartlord@... wrote:

      I vow never to sleep in peace. It is too late now that I
      could ever forget the struggle that I have near prevailed
      over, and here is the danger. It is a danger to continue in
      the same direction too long, it is always necessary to make
      sudden and unexpected turns. The paradox.
      What is safe operation for the traveler on the highway, when
      applied to daily living, will soon lose the way. I shatter
      myself every few moons.
      The only constant are the invisibles hovering in wavelengths
      outside our physical eyesight. They lounge on couches
      watching us in their reflecting pool, mildly interested in
      whether we possess the required ingenuity to follow them
      into sempiternity. This lifelong strife to shed the
      terrestrial ignorance is strictly regulated by the survival
      of the fittest. It is a ruthless process of
      self-elimination. The gods have their favorites, but like
      any other gamblers they can do little more than goad with
      encouragement. I have to fight my way out of this carcass
      into the vivid light of the astral life alone. There are a
      thousand of us racing toward the same keyhole, no need hurry
      because only one key will fit.

      Escape velocity is determined by residual obsessions the few
      always carry behind their good intentions. Normal people do
      not get out alive, normal people do not create art. The
      average socially adjusted citizen does not produce
      masterpieces of human expression that alter the course of
      history. Only individuals half-alienated with isolation,
      self- enforced privation and over-indulged fascinations ever
      find the motherlode of creativity that opens them to the
      outside. You will never find a reasonable immortal.



      This nonduality that has right words and wrong words,
      correct ways to view things and incorrect ways to view
      things -- what a feeble thing it must be. I'd rather have
      the nonduality that exploded the entire universe at once.
      In fact, I'd rather not have nonduality at all!


      ==GENE POOLE==

      ...as I see it, our initial immersion in 'world-dream'
      values has given us the questionable 'gift' of assuming that
      hunger, longing, and heartbreak are pathological states. In
      the 'world-dream', these experiences are (mis) understood to
      be signals that 'something is wrong' and that immediate
      'fixing' is called for.

      In our 'world-dream' experiences, there are indeed
      'emergent' relative degrees of hunger, longing, and
      heartbreak. We are universally compelled by 'traditional
      values' to do something about these conditions, and to
      always see that if we can control conditions, we can thus
      always experience satisfactory states of Being.

      Our various cultures notoriously lack the understanding
      which nonduality studies or realization imply; to wit, that
      our 'original condition' is one of hunger, longing, and

      Those who have deeply studied the guidance of certain
      'masters' have been informed (of the concept and stated to
      be reality) that we "should rediscover, find, or recognize
      our original condition". My personal experience with this
      seems to represent that of many others; I could not grasp
      that I could accept a continual hunger, longing, and
      heartbreak as my 'original condition'. For so many years, I
      sought relief from these 'states', blaming, manipulating,
      controlling, and generally attempting to 'fix' what my
      world-dream conditioning had firmly convinced me were

      It is easy to confuse the assults of everyday life, and the
      resultant feelings of fear, contraction, etc, with the
      reality of our 'original condition'. I indeed advocate
      'fixing' conditions which we may have created or have become
      enrolled in, which unnecessarily stress us and our fellows.
      For example, I will attempt to rectify a neighborhood crisis
      which results from the presence of a 'crack house', or a
      pack of free-running vicious dogs. But I have discovered
      that the feelings of hunger, longing, and heartbreak just
      will not go away, no matter how skilled my 'fixing'
      behaviour may be.

      I say, that it is hunger which sustains life, and is thus a
      necessity. If someone told me that there was a special
      meal, which if eaten would forever banish the desire to eat,
      I would not eat it. Hunger is symptomatic of wholeness and
      of the ability to maintain wholeness. Hunger sustains our

      If someone offered a 'special relationship' which would
      forever end longing, I would avoid it. It is longing which
      keeps the heart open to possibility, and it is openess to
      possibility which sustains our growth.
      Growth is a reality, and I can see no end to it; I would say
      that it must continue.

      If someone offered me a 'universal key to knowledge and
      understanding', which would somehow 'turn off' my enquiry, I
      would examine it for validity.
      These offerings are continually hawked in the 'spiritual
      marketplace' and are advertised as the 'final solution' to
      human suffering. I have never found one that has a shred of
      validity, and I doubt that such a 'remedy' will ever exist.

      As you know, 'belief' is the cornerstone of world-dream
      'answers', and belief itself is a shifting foundation upon
      which to stand. It is balance which is attained through
      growth, which allows us to 'try on' the various approaches
      (as Petros is doing) and to then continue on in our
      hunger-sustained journey of life and growth.

      Finally, if someone offered to me, a 'love which would end
      all love', I would certainly turn the other way. Heartbreak
      is seen in the world-dream, as the product of 'unrequitted
      love'; spurned by a fickle lover, heartbreak overflows and
      overwhelmes. The human drama of hunting for fulfillment in
      the shadowy jungles of world-dream conditional states, will
      probably go on as long as we turn away from our natural and
      original condition.

      I offer, that we in our original condition, are gifted with
      hunger, longing, and heartbreak; these gifts are our keys to
      growing into what we ourselves long for. We become what we
      seek. That is why it is important for anyone who is
      seeking, to seek 'Self', for ultimately, 'there is only
      Self', known by whatever name. 'Who am I' is one safe way
      to post a target, a goal, to insure unerring direction
      straight to 'who I am', which is nothing but 'Self'.

      "Who Am I" = "Who I Am"

      Hunger will never be turned off; those who starve, come to
      despise hunger.
      Hunger has a bad name, as does longing and heartbreak and
      feelings of separation from 'G-d'. In my reality, it is
      these disreputable and unending feelings, which sustain my
      life, and have in fact led me to embrace my original
      condition, in spite of world-dream values to the contrary.

      I say that wholeness includes hunger (which sustains life),
      longing (which keeps us open to possibility) and heartbreak
      (which is our natural vulerability, and our gateway to
      empathy and thus sharing). The existence of these factors
      in 'the life of the real', are aspects of wholeness. In the
      world-dream, they are exclusively factors to be 'remedied'.
      There is no remedy.

      Skye, (and make no mistake, I do enjoy your presence!) my
      'ladder' references go like this:

      In reality, there is no 'ladder', but I point to it, because
      we are frequently whacked over the head with the 'top rung',
      wielded by someone (anyone) who assumes that they have
      'attained' the top rung of this nonexistent ladder. Talking
      about the ladder openly, makes it go away, leading to the
      fall of those who are scrambling competitively up to the top
      rung. The 'right' to wield the 'Bludgeon of truth and
      righteousness' is the 'reward' desired by those step upon
      others in order to elevate themselves; this scenario is a
      central theme in our world-dream story.


      MELODY (responding to Gene)

      As I pause just a moment and reflect on what you (Gene) have
      offered thus far, it seems that you have effectively
      described the 'human experience'.

      It seems to me, perfectly natural for one who lives in a
      material world to first seek to satisfy 'hunger' with
      resources available in materiality. It does not take long
      (afterall, what is time?) for one who is satiated in
      material offerings to recognize that the hunger still
      exists, that it is a hunger for that which is not material.

      And how many men and women seek to satisfy their longing for
      intimacy within a relationship, and still find that even
      with the companionship of a loving, intimate mate, that
      longing still is?

      For some that longing, that hunger, is quieted with a loving
      mate, and with an abundance of material 'fuel'. And yet, in
      others, like me, the times I was the wealthiest, the times I
      was married to someone who adored me, was the hungriest,
      lonliest time of my life.

      This seems to me to point to the presence of Grace.

      Although, paradoxically, when I was feeling so hungry and so
      lonely, I would (incorrectly) assume the *absence* of Grace,
      in retrospect, I see it as a time overflowing in Grace.


      I am beginning to see that there is an opportunity for one
      to *embrace* suffering, rather than try to remedy it. The
      first time I experienced the beauty of suffering was when I
      felt my heart breaking after having lived with it 'frozen'
      for so many years.

      Even as I was sobbing in grief, I was saying to myself, "I
      can *FEEL* this, I'm *ALIVE*!!! It was such a halleleuyah
      moment mixed with suffering. My first taste of
      bitter-sweet, and I can say there is nothing in the world
      like it!

      To now taste the bitter-sweet, without resistance, without
      judgment or condemnation, is for me to taste heaven on

      Yes, and that's the beauty of the dance....the wonder of
      it. As long as it is 'out of our reach', as long as someone
      says 'no' to our desire, that desire or 'hunger' becomes our
      god....and we curse it for enslaving us.

      How many days did I curse God for putting such a hunger in
      my heart, that I could not be satisfied with materiality and
      human companionship.



      This comes from Arjuna Nick Ardagh's new book, excerpts of
      which are available via the link:


      Papaji has been my sweetheart.
      He is the one who blew the whistle On the whole game.
      But then he had the grace And the compassion To let me see
      him as a human being.
      I lived for a period in his house; I had breakfast with him
      in the morning, I went to see him in Satsang, Then we'd go
      back and have lunch.
      I realized this guy had every emotion That I didn't accept
      in myself.
      Every thought, Every kind of prejudice That I thought was so
      terrible In myself, He demonstrated to me.
      But what I noticed about him was The tendency to make it
      wrong Never arose in him.
      If anger came in him, Whoosh!
      It would come, Pass through, And disappear without a trace.

      This ended up being the greatest teaching.

      It makes me think of this line from Kerouac's On The Road:

      "It was remarkable how Dean could go mad and then suddenly
      continue with his soul -- which I think is wrapped up in a
      fast car, a coast to reach, and a woman at the end of the
      road -- calmly and sanely as though nothing had happened."

      Visit the Kerouac nonduality page at


      TIM G.

      Dear Lists,

      The musical selection of the month on The Core has been
      updated for November, 1999. To access the page directly,
      please use this address:


      This month's song is a compilation I made from a certain
      source. It's 6 minutes long and (IMO) interesting, peaceful
      yet somehow disturbing music (if anyone recognizes where it
      came from, drop me an Email :-). RealPlayer (RealAudio
      format) is required to listen.

      Next month will be more uplifting, joyful music to
      commemorate the Christmas season.

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