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#1540 - Sunday, August 31, 2003

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  • Gloria Lee
    #1540 - Sunday, August 31, 2003 - Editor: Gloria Sam Pasciencier ~ NDS Fall arrived here like a curtain. One day summer the next fall. Time for a long walk
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      #1540 - Sunday, August 31, 2003 - Editor: Gloria
      Sam Pasciencier ~ NDS
      Fall arrived here like a curtain. One day summer the next fall.
      Time for a long walk this cool autumn day.
      Love, Sam

      Timothy Tomasi ~ Rumi-Hafiz

      Nothing in all creation is so like God as stillness.
      ~Meister Eckhart
      Praise and blame, gain and loss, pleasure and sorrow come and go like the wind. 
      To be happy, rest like a great tree in the midst of them all.
      ~Achaan Chaa
      And a poem:
      Another Eye Opens
      When thou dwell in the heart
      And erase all trace of thee,
      Another eye opens.
      Clutter not this mirror
      With extravagant images
      The world, as it is, will do.
      Thi Sï Tâm

      Axel Hinze ~ E-zendo
      Doret, thanks for reminding me. This is a Zen-list. There is a notion with
      Zen-teachers and masters, when they're asked about enlightenment, they cut off
      your words. "It's horrible, don't bother" was the funniest answer I got. Of
      course, the ultimate goal (if any, in regard to "ultimate") is awakening,
      liberation. Thus why worry? But the means to any form of such is always
      PRESENCE, Awareness. Be here right now. (No matter about urban surroundings, I found
      living in a big city doesn't hinder me).
      It's especially today's zen teachers stressing meditativeness to be achieved
      in your every day activities. Maybe I post a little story about that later.
      But I don't have to concern about the goal. It is there, the path is set.
      Sure, I take my time to reflect that. Remind me of what that's about. But in
      exactly what I am doing? No way...

      () Axel

      Jerry Katz ~ NDS News

      If you can't see the links or photos, please visit http://nonduality.com/index.html#1

      Sunday, August 31, 2003

      Churches, parishioners keep hungry in mind for Day of Caring. Hixon Frank's family added a couple of items to their usual shopping list this week: a more secure life for their neighbors and clearer vision for themselves. ... "I think we get too comfortable. We are blessed. We have plenty. Our needs and wants are met," Margie Frank said. "It's good to do this as a family. This makes us look outside ourselves and provide for others." The day-after-day blur of work and family and errands can lead to social nearsightedness, Hixon Frank said. -more-

      Solo backpacking nothing new

      Miles from nowhere
      Not a soul in sight
      Oh yeah, but it's alright
      --Cat Stevens

      Writer Stephen Hlawaty stands miles from nowhere, peering north atop Blue Lake Pass.

      I don't know what it was that spurred me to pack a rucksack, strap it to my back and head into the Colorado wilderness. Maybe it was the newly found responsibilities of being a first-time father, maybe it was being recently laid off for the second time in two years, or maybe it was a combination of the two. Whatever it was, it didn't matter. What mattered is that I go . . . and go alone. -more-

      Hope sprang from the ashes of Burning Man Saturday night. Some burned past loves represented by framed photos or letters. Others threw unwanted pleasures, such as cigarettes and decks of cards, into the fire. Still for some the fire burned intangibles: Beliefs and ideas. The energy that Black Rock City, a temporary habitat for more than 30,000 people from around the world, culminated at 10 p.m. Saturday when the 30-foot structure of a wooden man and the pyramid it stood on was torched and brought to the ground. -more-

      Book Review: The Next Enlightenment. Walter Truett Anderson takes up where Kant left off with an incredible book that urges a form of personal and cultural evolution he calls "The Next Enlightenment." Anderson is not advocating anything weird or mystical but points out that there are many schools of thought "built around the proposition that ordinary maturity is not the ultimate stage of human development." ... Anderson writes that "people become so involved in their identity-narratives that they become lost in them like some brilliant builder who constructs a wonderful maze of gardens and buildings and then cannot find his way out of them into the world beyond - who indeed forgets that there is a world beyond." -more-

      Garden of Memories yields harvest of peace, grace. A nun who grew up in Jersey City, N.J., with cement for a back yard helped bring to life one of the area's most serenely beautiful religious gardens, the Garden of Memories at Mount St. Benedict, 6101 East Lake Road (Erie, PA). "I'm honored to be able to be a part of bringing people in touch with the beauty God has created so they may find peace, healing and wholeness," said Benedictine Sister Kathleen Ruszkowski. Benedictine Sister Carolyn Gorny-Kopkowski uses the garden as part of her Spirit of the Seasons spiritual retreat. "It adds that dimension of the beauty in creation itself," she said. "Nature itself can provide such beautiful opportunities for grace." -more-




      Diana ~ NDS

      Of the unknowable only silence talks. The mind can talk only of what it
      knows. If you diligently investigate the knowable, it dissolves and only
      the unknowable remains. But with the first flicker of imagination and
      interest the unknowable is obscured and the known comes to the fore-front.
      The known, the changing, is what you live with; the unchangeable is of no
      use to you. It is only when you are satiated with the changeable and long
      for the unchangeable that you are ready for the turning round and stepping
      into what can be described, when seen from the level of the mind, as
      emptiness and darkness. For the mind craves for content and variety, while
      reality is, to the mind, contentless and invariable.

      ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

      s_v_c_s ~ NamoRamana

      Question: What are the marks of a real teacher (sadaguru)?

      Sri Ramana Maharshi: Steady abidance in the Self, looking at all with
      an equal eye, unshakable courage at all times, in all places and

      Question: There are a number of spiritual teachers teaching various
      paths. Whom should one take for one's Guru?

      Sri Ramana Maharshi: Choose that one where you find you get shanti

      Hari Aum !!!

      Alden Brindle ~ Rumi-Hafiz

      Cages can be comforting and protecting but there comes a time to fly out of the open door. When a bird finds the courage to leave it's cage and discovers the freedom of open skies, the bird develops a savvy wariness of cages. For years I had a lot of anger towards the Mormon church. Now I accept the Mormon church and Eckankar as old lamps in the dying brain's workshop. 

      The Lamps are different,
      But the Light is the same.
      So many garish lamps in the dying brain's lamp shop,
      Forget about them.
      Concentrate on essence, concentrate on Light.
      In lucid bliss, calmly smoking off its own holy fire,
      The Light streams towards you from all things,
      All people, all possible permutations of good, evil, thought, passion.
      The lamps are different,
      But the Light is the same.
      One matter, one energy, one Light, one-Light-mind,
      Endlessly emanating all things.
      One turning and burning diamond.
      One, one, one.
      Ground yourself, strip yourself down,
      To blind loving silence.
      Stay there, until you see
      You are gazing at the Light
      With its own ageless eyes.

      Daily Dharma

      "The wisdom of unselfishness or selflessness reveals that real
      heart of interconnectedness, interpenetrativeness, and love.  Then
      we would treat everyone like we like to treat our children or our
      beloved ones. Equalizing ourselves with others, or even more
      radically, putting them first.  That's what the Dalai Lama says,
      that's the way to train: put others first.  Like, perhaps, in your
      best moments, you put your children first or would die for your
      children.  If we see ourselves as one person on one side and all the
      beings in this world on the other side, we might one day do a little
      advanced calculus and say `Which side is really more

      "Of course, that's a big stretch, but we just say it that way to
      exaggerate.  But it's "me, me, me," or the world.  Think about it:
      three - me, myself, and I - or 6 billion? And that's only the people!
      What about all the others, creatures great and small, seen an
      unseen? Hard to count them.

      "So, when we really put things in perspective, we can, by
      continuous reflection and contemplation, start to not just conclude
      or jump to a conclusion or make some kind of exaggerated point that
      the many are more important than any one of us, but we might start
      to really transform our attitude. Erode or loosen a little bit of
      our selfishness, of our self-cherishing, our egotism, whatever you
      want to call it...relinquish our grasping, attachment, and
      demandingness. That's the way to peace, World peace and also inner
      peace. We're not just talking about mystical doctrines like no-self,
      shunyata, anakima, no self, no one home. But how about just a little
      more generosity and less grasping and demanding?

      "Let's start anywhere, anything will do. Just being a little
      nicer to each other or when we drive around or whatever. Let's start
      anywhere, I dare you!"
      ~ Lama Surya Das

      From the web site, "The Internet Sacred Text Archive,"

      b ~ AdyashantiSatsang

      "Time is the shop
      Where everyone works hard

      To build enough love
      To break the

      Wise men keep talking about
      Wanting to meet Her.

      Women sometimes pronounce the word God
      A little differently:
      They can use more feeling and skill
      With the heart-lute.

      All the world's movements,
      Apparent chaos, and suffering I now know happen
      In the Splendid Unison:

      Our tambourines are striking
      The same thigh.

      Hafiz stands
      At a juncture in this poem.
      There are a thousand new wheels I could craft
      On a wagon
      And place you in -
      Lead you to a glimpse of the culture
      And seasons in another dimension.

      Yet again God
      Will have to drop you back at the shop

      Where you still have work



      ~ ~ ~

      What Do You Really Want?

      Let your brain whirl and spin itself
      into blessed exhausted silence.
      Let it rest like a baby
      in the open palmed hands
      of the heart held Now.

      What do you really want after all?
      To win, to pick the sweetest fruit on the tree?
      Or to rest from the endless succession
      of temporal moments
      and the promises that they never keep?

      What do you really want?
      To take or to be taken?
      To find the Great Pearl of Liberation
      or to be consumed by it?

      I have no more ideas anymore about
      God, consciousness,
      the absolute or non-duality.
      If you want to talk with me
      let us meet where
      there are no abstractions.

      All I want to know is:
      Have you noticed?

      Something is here
      my friend.

      Something is here
      have you noticed?

      Only the Mystery is.
      The Mystery is noticing that
      only the Mystery Is.

      Have you noticed?


      ~ ~ ~

      Q: People who have a yearning, or at least a curiosity, about
      awakening may wonder how they can find this freedom we are speaking
      of. "What do I do?" "How do I get it?" These are common questions.

      A: There are two important elements as far as I am concerned, maybe
      three. Number one is, before you get too involved in teachings and
      teachers and conforming to the way you think things should be
      spiritually, connect with the raw yearning at the core of your own
      being. Basically, this means, "What do I yearn for more than anything
      else?" For most human beings there will be conflicting yearnings, but
      see what the core yearning is in you. The very deepest core yearning
      is your red carpet to freedom. It is the place that you follow. You
      follow backward into that yearning. This is something that most
      spiritual students don't take the time to do. They just jump into the
      teachings and start imitating and doing practices that they don't
      understand. They miss that the divine call is in their own heart
      right from the very beginning. That's the really important part.


      Sandeep ~ AdyashantiSatsang
      Sandeep Meets Ramesh Balsekar
      Hi Sandeep,

      I understand you met Ramesh.
      Did you meet him while you were
      still seeking, or out of curiosity?



      Q: Did you have a tete a tete, or a group encounter?


      Q: Could you describe the circumstances.

      Somebody told somebody and someone asked me about Ramesh. Had not
      even heard the name or that he lived in Mumbai, a city where I also
      normally reside.

      By chance got hold of his telephone number and address, and one fine
      morning was moved to go over.

      Q: Does he live in luxury?

      As you are aware he was a banker and retired at quite a high post.
      I also suspect he hails from a rich family.
      For his apartment is located in an area of Mumbai, which is one of
      the costliest, real-estate price-wise.
      And since the entire building of some 5 floors belongs to the
      Baleskar family (Ramesh occupies the top floor and rest by his
      extended family),.....things are quite hunky dory, it would appear.

      The apartment is neatly done up.

      I remember laughing out loud in the midst of all these western
      seekers, all walking about in profound silence, after a group session
      with Ramesh, when I espied a stock broker's share certificate issued
      in Ramesh's name.

      The dude plays the stock market, though whether he is a successful
      punter, I have no clue.

      Q: What were your impressions?

      Articulate, getting on the years, a good sense of humour, and if you
      go to his satangh, more than once, ...repetitive.

      For me, he triggered the seeking of the parallels in the field of
      fundamental Science, which is today rapidly approaching the quality
      of mysticism or whatever you wish to call the hoopla.

      For the first time, a seemingly certified sage had even heard of
      Bell's Theorem of Non-Locality and had the ability to discuss it's
      parallels to the spiritual stuff.

      Big on Consciousness, as the final word, ................till in one
      meeting, .........moi idly posed that Consciousness was as much a
      conceptual conjecture as any other concept.

      Obtained a smile from Ramesh and glares from the adoring disciples.

      At the end of each session, there is singing by a lady and then
      everybody joins in massacring the pronunciations.
      These songs are Tukaram, Jnaneshwar, Dado bhajans, which are very

      In short not any ado or fanfare, very householder environ (suddenly
      the hissing sound of the pressure cooker in the kitchen, when some
      Advaitic give and take happening)

      No diksha given, at least the few times I wandered over.
      Ramesh evidently has no problem getting photographed with a seeker
      departing back to the West or wherever.

      Everybody at the end touches his feet in the Indian manner of giving
      respect, before leaving.

      I placed my head at his feet and then left.

      Have not been back for quite some time.

      It's actually a pain, for you have to climb 5 floors by the stairs,
      the lift is from the days of Buddha and can take the weight of only
      person at a time.

      And in the morning, there is a mad rush by the seekers to rush up
      these 5 floors and grab all the chairs and cushions in a tiny room
      where Ramesh holds his satsanghs.

      Now while I am supposed to have no problem squatting on the floor,
      an expanding waistline poses some issues.

      Nobody touches ONE of the chair seats, as it is supposed to be the
      hot-seat, where only the person with profound questions is supposed
      to sit and then ask Ramesh.

      You are supposed to tell one of the organizers about this, in the
      morning so that the seat gets reserved for you.

      Catching on the potential in that situation ..........the few times I
      went, I would ask for the hot-seat, leisurely await for that one
      weight lift to take me slowly up floor floors and take the hot-seat.
      And doze off.

      And when Ramesh would look at me, I would say 'No questions, I just
      cannot squat on the floor".

      Ramesh laughed so much that he nearly chocked on his tea, which he
      was sipping at that moment.

      If looks at me from the audience could kill,........

      Next time, the organizer was suspicious, till I told him the pure
      Advaitic question, I just needed to get Ramesh's answer, ....moi on
      hot seat,......Ramesh looks at me and says, "how's the back".

      I told the organizer, "See, that was the real answer".

      Last I heard the organizer was referring to Advaita Vedanta text to
      see how his beloved Ramesh's answer "how's the back" can be fitted
      into non-duality equation.

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