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    Simplicity (contributed by Ben Hassine, NDS) ... #1523 - Thursday, August 14, 2003 - Editor: Jerry ... Am I real? My friend nodded emphatically. Of course.
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      Simplicity (contributed by Ben Hassine, NDS)

      #1523 - Thursday, August 14, 2003 - Editor: Jerry

      Am I real?"
      My friend nodded emphatically. "Of course. You are real. I recognize you. I know your name and what you do for a living and who you are married to and the make of the car you drive."
      "Perhaps I got divorced and perhaps I sold my car."

      -Van de Watering, 'A Glimpse of Nothingness'

      The Circle of Bliss:
      Buddhist Meditational Art
      Los Angeles County Museum of Art October 5, 2003 to January 4, 2004
      Columbus Museum of Art February 6 to May 9, 2004

      a post from Alice's Restaurant, the Japanese incense list:
      One positive result of the power failure here in Rochester, NY - I was
      able to burn and enjoy a lot more incense without the air conditioner
      interfering and sucking up most of the aroma. There's nothing quite
      like sitting in a pool of your own sweat in the dark watching a
      glowing ember of incense advance, advance, and then... black out.

      Nonduality.com Personals
      Hard tellin' not knowin'
      As they say in Maine (for those of you from
      away). I'm living in the Shawangunk Mountains in the Hudson Valley, NY
      and wanting to develop connections with those struggling to integrate
      their experience non-self back into the "marketplace". I've found one
      who lives in MD, and she commutes here every two weeks. It has been an
      amazing experience to spend time with another submersed in a similar
      experience of the world. Between us we've generated a cascade of
      insight, however fleeting and meaningless it may be in the long run.
      Our discussions have merely reinforced the impossibility of trying to
      describe nondual expression in "rational" terms, certainly when we are
      so often finishing each other's sentences. Nevertheless, our experience
      together highlights the need for those with a similar perspective to
      share and laugh about themselves and the world around them. We are
      half-jokingly going to create the Stonykill Institute for Intuitive
      Organization, based on our own struggles with reintegration. Any
      egoless awareness, un- wordyone sou
      words cannot be confused with love, words are symbols, that is all they are, they are no thing. I know, for I have been also that love, silent, waiting for the one mind to speak, and when the one mind speaks, it says nothing , it simply is love, and it is powerful , revealing, It reveals your true nature to you, not in words that are paradoxial, but simply words that know about the person, and understand their need, their heartbreak, the words are about them, and they recognize themselves, as love also. The ego has to be gone completely, and I doubt that ego will die that death without this dark night I have been in, so there is a purpose, but I am sure it is time to begin the emerging from this metamorphosis, into egoless awarenesss. I doubt that without a dark night after awareness that one will ever be come purely aware. Until then I will suffer, and I will be blinded, it is my hearts desire to serve by being simply a receptacle for love which is all there is, to flow through to others.
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      Hardware, Software, and Transcendence
      a talk by Sri Adi Da
      November 24, 1982

      You must realize that you truly are uncomfortable and will never be comfortable as long as you are merely a conditional persona. No matter how grand the program may ultimately become, no matter into what plane you may be born, you will always be looking at this strange apparatus. I have always been sensitive to this fact. Yogic phenomena and mystical phenomena have therefore never bound me. I have had all these experiences—but when I have the experiences, I also see this weirdo machine. I do not just see the images on the TV set. I see all these wheels revolving and resistors, capacitors, strange waves, and all the rest of it—the whole insanity of that projection. I see the machine in its futility. But as an effect or as an appearance I see also the suffering inherent in its continuation.

      Thus, for me there is no delight, no great solution involved in going in and up and entering the realms of mind. I see the wheels turning there, I see all the craziness out of which these images develop. I do not just see them congeal into the discrete images on the screen. I see them just before they become that, before the brain makes sense out of them. I see this psychotic wheel of lights, the infinite fractions, its cellular parts just about to show a discrete image.

      When you can see that, you feel profoundly uncomfortable and are never comfortable even with the discrete image. Because I was incapable of being consoled by software or hardware, the spell was broken in my case. This Awakening demonstrates the ultimate virtue of discomfort or the inability to be consoled. It is the ultimate means, or that which puts us into intimate association with the ultimate means.

      Therefore, the force of this Teaching is not merely to send you to a better world after death or to give you a better circumstance in your next lifetime. It is the understanding that even now you are in an inbetween state, a "bardo," 5 and that you can completely understand your present condition to the point of transcending it. You can drop out of the program. You can Outshine it. God-Realization is not a matter of separating from the program, however. It is a matter of clearly understanding it and Outshining it by Standing Free, Standing in the Position in Which we eternally and therefore presently exist, the Condition that is being flowed in the inert machines and animated in the programs. It is possible to be completely Awake in the Transcendental State even in a moment such as this, even in this bardo.

      Ongoing Translation of Sri Bhagawan's Tamil Atma Bodha
      Read all verses translated so far, at

      Verse 63:
      pirama mulagiR piRidhAgu mandhap
      piramath thaNuvil piRidhAy - piramaththR
      kanniya mEdhu mavirndhA ladhumiththai
      yunnuga kAnanI roththu.       


      " 1)  Brahman is different from the world.
         2)  In that subtlety of Brahman 'becoming different',
         3)  if anything shines apart from Brahman,
         4)  'that is illusion, akin to mirage'.",
      think thus.       

      Verse 64:
      edhuvedhu kANavung kEtkavu mEyu
      madhupiramath thanniya mAgA - dhadhuvumE
      thaththuvajna naththinAR satchidA nandamA
      madhdhuvi dhabbirama mAm      


      " 1)  Whichever (thing) will abide adjoining (us, for us) to see and hear,
         2)  that will not be apart from Brahman.
         3)  Even that, by the Wisdom of the Principle
              (of Brahman underlying it and the its seer)
              is(!) Satchidananda
              (the continuum embodying the 3 aspects of Brahman,
              namely, Existence, Knowledge and Bliss), and
         4)  is(!) the non-dual Brahman."

      Verse 65:
      saruvaththunj chArndhadhAnch chachchidhA nandhap
      piramaththai jnAnakkaN petRAn - dRarisippAn
      jnAnakkaN NillAdhA naNNANE kAtchiyoLir
      BAnuvaiyan dhanpOlap pAr.    65.

      " 1) The one who obtained the Eye of Wisdom,
       will behold (the Vision of) Brahman,
         2) the Satchidananda (Existence-Knowledge-Bliss) adjoining everything.
         3) The one who does not have the Eye of Wisdom,
       will not obtain(!) (Brahman, for beholding as the very Self),
         4) see (understand) like the blind man (not obtaining the Vision of)
       the Sun of shining appearance right in front."


      Brahman - The substratum of everything seen
      Atman      - The substratum of the seeing ego
      Advaita Vedanta establishes the identity of both.

      Muzafar Ali plans film on Persian poet Rumi
      Thursday, 14 August , 2003, 09:08


      Mumbai: Veteran director Muzafar Ali is making a comeback after a break
      of more than a decade with a 25 million dollar project on the life of
      Rumi, the 13th century Persian saint and poet.

      Ali, who directed one of India's biggest film hits, Umraojan, in the
      late 1980s, is hoping to cast popular Hollywood stars such as Daniel
      Day-Lewis, Roberto De Niro or Al Pacino in the movie.

      He said the movie will revolve around Sheikh Jalaluddin Rumi's life and
      two of his great literary works -- "Diwan" and the immortal "Mathnav"
      -- containing 26,600 couplets written by him over 10 years.

      "A lot of help is coming from the Turkish government. They like the
      subject because no film has ever been made on this great saint on a
      global scale," Ali told AFP.

      "The Minister of Culture in the Turkish government, Erkan Muncu, has
      shown keen interest in the project and he has promised me all kinds of
      help to make this film."

      Ali is working on the script after 10 years of research on Rumi's life.
      He is keen to cast some top Hollywood stars to make the film truly

      "Daniel Day-Lewis is right for the lead role of Rumi, while other key
      roles can be acted by Al Pacino or Robert De Niro," Ali said.

      He was, he added, also considering some Indian actors. "I have few
      people in my mind. I will sit with my casting director and we will soon
      finalise. I want to get people in Bollywood who will be committed to
      this project."

      Ali said his research on Rumi had encouraged him to make a movie on the
      saint at this time in history, when the world is battling the onslaught
      of terrorism.

      "Rumi is important to the world because he united east and the west. I
      feel that when terrorism is the problem to the world, this film will
      make people realize that it is important to understand each other's
      culture," Ali said.

      "Rumi does not belong to any religion. His message is that of love.
      Through his poetry he talks about one god, the oneness of human race
      and goes beyond religion and talks.

      "His poems are very well read even in United States. He looks at the
      world as one world in his time. So, his thoughts are important to

      Ali gave up filmmaking after he failed to complete his last project
      Zooni, a story of a Kashmiri princess, in the 90s. The project was
      planned after the huge success of Umraojan, a film on the life of a
      courtesan played by enigmatic actress Rekha.

      "I don't want to make Bollywood kind of films anymore. I want to make
      macro films which will appeal to global audience," Ali said.

      He is also confident that Indian audiences will flock to the movie, as
      Rumi is popular in the country.

      "Rumis work are well known in India. He has a great influence on the
      Indian masses. And, I am sure, people will love this film."

      Ali plans to put special emphasis on the music and will be one of the
      music composers for the movie.

      "The film will have strong music. This is not a usual song and dance
      kind of film. It is different. And therefore, I have selected a team of
      musicians who will specially play the music," Ali said.

      "I have not thought who will lead the musicians, but I will be one of
      the persons who will keep an eye on the music of the film."

      Green Tea
      Alice's Restaurant

      J: Where do you get your green tea?

      D: The last I picked up at Mitsukoshi in Tokyo, but I have been talking
      to Asa at Asakichi and they have a good source, and he says it is very
      fresh, so I plan on trying them out.

      A: Good suggestion D., I had tea from Asakichi before and the owner was
      also kind enough to bring me a tea of my choice from one of his trips
      to Japan, years ago.

      J., if you live in large enough city or close to one, you may also
      check local oriental/japanese store. Anything priced around $6.00 for
      100g is going to be quite good. You may also ask the owner for teas
      with "golden" in their name, etc. If you have a chance to look at the
      leaf, look for darker green crisp "tea needles" with slight sheen to
      them and fresh, deep, grassy smell. These will not be the best japanese
      teas money could buy, but still better then what most Japanese drink
      every day - good solid middle grade sencha. You may also try chinese
      green teas - they are much more interesting and varied group then
      japanese teas, although japanese teas, at least for me, have this
      cultivated purity and simplicity of form you can depend on - similar to
      good local wine from, let's say, island of Corsica vs. dazzling variety
      and wine choices of continental France...

      D: Personally, I've gotten spoiled on the Gyokuro, but then Zen Priest
      here showed me the way Roshi Sasaki likes it. It's much different than
      the other way. He uses about a tabelspoon of tea, and much hotter
      water. Probably aroun 160 degrees, and the steeping time is les than 15
      seconds in a medium size tea pot. It has a very light flowery taste
      instead of the thicker stronger way.


      Crystal Balls

      D: Say, I know some of you are really into crystals.

      I've got a friend that just returned from Thailand with a pure Clear
      Quartz Crystal Ball. He wants $1,200.00 for it, and says it's worth
      twice that.

      Should I buy it?


      A: No, I would not buy it.

      For that money you can travel to Thailand yourself (for a week on a
      budget) and while trying to locate the similar item (how big is it?)
      have fun exploring the Bangkok, go to arab or indian markets to look
      for incense materials, etc. Opportunities are boundless... You also
      have a good chance to find similar ball for much less money - Thailand
      is known for its gems and minerals and every concierge from reputable
      hotel (not people from the street) will give you several good tips,
      where to find it... You will return refreshed and with enough memories
      to last a lifetime, even if you come back without the ball. :-)

      Calla Visage
      Live Journal

      A tree hidden moon -
      hundreds of crickets in song ...
      So clear we see - Mars!

      Petros' Canadian Dharma Journey
      Petros will be setting off this morning for his first Trans-Canadian Dharma
      Tour, travelling through southern parts of Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan,
      Alberta and British Columbia to meet with various spiritual students and
      practitioners and to bring the Dharma to any who may express an interest. As
      always on such journeys he dedicates the fruit of his movements towards the
      enlightenment of all beings.

      Students may continue to write us with questions as usual, though they
      should expect some delay in response time due to logistical difficulties. It
      is expected that Petros will be back in Los Angeles by the end of the month.

      -- Administrator

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