Monday, August 12, 2002
- Highlights # 1163Monday, August 12, 2002Editor: Gloria Lee===============================All posts for this issue are taken from Zen Pearl,a small, but quite lively list.================================DAVID BOZZI
Oh good! I recently discovered this wonderful web site
(or did it find me?)
crafted with such love. I'm sure many would enjoy...
Breaking free from the circle of fear
might be easier if we could only see
what's binding us up in the first place.
I decided to look inside for the answers.
My dreams began to inform me.
I listened to the wisdom of the great sages of all religions.
I thought about my experiences in the light of these truths.
I grew very tired of myself.
Like a tsunami in saran wrap,
a raging volcano under glass,
a child perpetually in tantrum.
I grew very tired of my little self.
-- Melissa Osborne
Wild Gold Today held something different for me at work. I sit here deepened, slit into inside. I work at a primary school With children from many parts of the globe. Recently as I worked with my wild side, Facing beastly pain within, I realised the angry boy in my class Hitting out at everyone (cept me) Represents a young Wildman Wearing khaki green. He sits here with no English Just enough to get him by. Abandoned child & wildboy, With sister by his side. Today he arrived with metal Piercing his arm. He had woven his sister's earring Like a thorn into his skin. Carving initials of his pain Further down his arm. This was quite a surprise for a teacher On an ordinary Tuesday at school. Will I ever have an ordinary day again? I felt wrenched inside To see his beautiful smiling face hiding his pain. His warrior nature at war already, To prove he is a man. Tender age of just 12, Carrying so much pain. And yet so much innocence He hasn't a clue why he does What he do. I told him you are gold, And, never never forget. All children are gold Please don't hurt yourself again. I told his sister she is a flower. What colour flower are you today? These are unusual strategies for a teacher to use And I find myself wondering, If I set wildboy up for success or failure in a wildworld, By asking him to admit to his pain? But I know he will never put an earring Into his skin again. Gentle words have tamed his pain. Out came the metal. Out came the shame. So, I speak to the Buddha gold within. Never ever forget who you really are. You are Nature's precious children, Gold flowers Blooming in God's domain. Colette October 23 2001 ____________________________________________________DEMIANThis will give you a list of the "Traditions and Schools of Buddhism"
Also the way that you question things is the correct path as spoken by
Shakyamuni Buddha in the Kalama Sutra:
"Do not believe in anything
simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions
simply because they have been handed
down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything
simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything
simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything
merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But when, after observation and analysis,
you find anything that agrees with reason,
and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all,
then accept it and live up to it."
____________________________________________________WIM BORSBOOMWhen the need for questions is gone one sees that an answer was never
Wim said:"When the need for questions is gone one sees
that an answer was never needed."
Is that really so?
I still say when one feels no need for questions..one
is either a fanatic or a fool.and being either is
dangerous for oneself and all beings...
There are many instances in the Sutras when the Buddha
changed his answer after questions or persuasion. If
there was no need for questions or no doubt.why would
the answer change?
Suggesting others should have no doubt or not have
questions mearly leaves them open for abuse. ...very
dangerous in these or any times..I cannot imagine a
responsible teacher saying such a thing...There is
always room for questions and for doubt.To think that
one knows all..that one has nothing left to learn this
then is the height of ego.Not even the Buddha was
above reproach..in fact his whole method of teaching
was to encourage questions.It was not doubt that
Mahakashapa had eliminated when the flower was
shown...it was a thought of Mahakashapa that was
gone..not thoughts as a whole ...just he was acting
without thought of himself.There was no seperation
between Mahakashapa and the flower ..therefore the
To have no doubt..no questions...very dangerous for
those who follow a leader or just practice on their
own..and even more dangerous for one who would lead
I am sure no one on THIS list would be tempted to use
their spiritual authority (either self given or in
some tradition or another) to satisfy a hungry ego or
to abuse or defraud others. BUT it has been done.(see
Jim Jones, Maharaji Shri Rashneesh [sp?]a large number
of Catholic priests here in America and now around the
world it seems.) It is possible to be on such an ego
trip that you cannot even see how far wrong you have
The real world keeps coming at one, it demands an
answer every moment. If one is paying attention there
is always the question ..ok what now? If no answer is
forthcoming the universe will run right over the poor
fool who has no question or is paying no attention..To
just answer the question..to just ring the bell
...without thinking .."god I hate this"..or "I really
like this"..or "I wonder when I will get something
more to eat?" This is what those old sages were
talking about..Maybe just to think.."It is time to
strike the bell...now!" and do it, without anything
extra ..is enough..How could one possibly do this
without a question?
For whatever it is worth...
____________________________________________________EARLDoubt cannot exist in Singularity.
How could doubt and clarity co-exist??
A fool or fanatic presupposes something to befoolish about or a something to be fanatical about. All delusion.
Just my thought. I am surely no expert.
____________________________________________________NORMAInterpretation is as individual as each of us are......"when the need for
questions is gone"......can certainly be interpreted as being in a state of
existence where the need to know has diminished...not because all is
known...but more because...of the acceptance of life and the allowance of
There is an old chinese saying that goes something
like this..If one person calls you a jackass, ignore
them. If two people call you a jackass buy a bridle
and a blanket.Wim,
I know you did not mean to come off as arrogant or
egotistical...maybe just a little doubt might have
come in handy....perhaps you might like to rephrase or
explain your statement?
> There is an old chinese saying that goes something
> like this..If one person calls you a jackass, ignorethem. If two people call you a jackass buy a bridle
> and ablanket.
(comic book wisdom)
Take it for what it's worth
like everything else.
(with a grain of salt)
More than 2 folks called
Charles Manson a saviour
More than 2 folks called
We could try to
settle the score
by counting votes,
...but that would really be foolish.
> I know you did not mean to come off as arrogant oregotistical...maybe just a little doubt might have
> come inhandy....perhaps you might like to rephrase or
> explain yourstatement?
What is it
that makes demands?
I demand to know!
(egotistical)____________________________________________________FUDOHmmmm Charles Manson ...wasn't he another spiritual
leader that could not be questioned???
As far as I can see from the news he still has no
Maybe I am wrong..but in the descriptions of a Buddha or a bodhisattva,I have never heard no doubt as a characteristic of either.
Sometimes you hear things for the first time____________________________________________________DAVID BOZZIWhom Do We Believe?Mulla Nasrudin had an insatiable craving for knowledge,
but did not seem to know what knowledge was. As a result
he asked a local wise man the stupidest questions, always
based upon random assumptions.
One day the Mulla noticed that his donkey was missing. He
ran to the wise man's house.
"Well, Mulla, what is it this time?"
"My donkey is gone! Where can I find it?"
The wise man was quite fed up with the Mulla.
"Nasrudin," he said, "the donkey has run off,
turned into a man and been appointed the magistrate in the next town."
Thanking the wise man for his information, the Mulla trudged
to the court. There sat the magistrate, and Nasrudin shook
his fist at him:
"Come home at once, you foolish animal!"
The magistrate was furious.
"Who are you and how dare you talk to me like that?
I'll have you sent to the cells!"
"I'm the well-known, Mulla Nasrudin, and I have it on the
best authority that you are my donkey!"
"That's ridiculous. Nobody in his right senses would credit
such a thing!"
Nasrudin drew himself up to his full height, "Say what you
like," he said, "I prefer to believe the statement of a wise man
rather than that of a donkey!"