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      Skye:
      ... Only work (for want of a better word) on 'oneself'
      not others clears her's your's and everyone's name and then
      no small amounts of poison will have any effect or need come
      your way.

      Melody:
      This is a teaching that has served me very well over
      the years. I have experienced the truth of it
      time and time again.

      I like the way Jerry once said:

      "I acknowledge the resurrection that is continually going on. I
      acknowledge the rising of energy from lower to higher, the rising toward
      Grace, by Grace, for Grace. As it happens in individuals, it happens,
      over
      the generations, in societies around the world. By keeping attention
      upon
      Grace, we tow the world along with us. We resurrect the world."

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      From: "Petros"


      "True teachers not only live the truth; they love the truth they live.
      But
      in fact, that truth, for the students is a lie until they investigate it
      for
      themselves. So, the teacher plays out his or her own role being simple,
      stupid, outrageous, a trickster, whatever, luring the students on,
      sometimes
      satisfying their expectations, sometimes frustrating them, always
      testing,
      measuring, so that the students will measure their own somethingness.
      Even
      false teachers, with their half truths, can unwittingly aid in the quest
      if
      the students learn to relax and not force the issue, if they learn that,
      in
      all their struggles, what they are looking for is already looking for
      them."

      >From http://www.indranet.com/lcds.html, Le Centre Du Silence. "Body
      Speak"
      and the work of the mime.

      Also check out the introduction by E.J. Gold
      (http://www.indranet.com/arts/lcds/ejpresents.html).
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      The nature of the Self is absolute, immutable, taintless. It is not

      distant, nor is it subject to attainment (being ever attained). This is

      Truth. -------Ashtavakra Gita



      Harsha's comment:

      To see that which is obvious, look.

      Do not look for anything, and do not look at anything.

      Do not avoid looking.

      Just look and see the one who looks.

      One is the Look.

      Look, and what is obvious becomes obvious.


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      ....you are
      certainly spot-on when you speak about the sacred witness
      being the main thing. That's where the answer lies, if it
      lies anywhere, and I'm glad you've turned the focus there,
      as long as it's not used as an excuse to cancel all
      controversial discussion.

      Jerry
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      Mira:
      Has there ever been a flawless philosophy?

      Greg:
      No.

      andrew:
      Not yet but we're working on it.

      Glo:
      In the meantime, I nominate Wittgenstein... :):)

      Mira:
      Love you guys!

      Judi:
      You must remember this
      A kiss is still a kiss
      A sigh is still a sigh
      The fundamental things apply
      As time goes by...
      <snip rest of song>

      Mira:
      And with intense delight
      I hold you near my lips
      Embrace you through the night
      Betray you with a kiss

      Judi:
      Betray me, betray me, a thousand times betray me!!

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      NOT-KNOWING

      Some people think the highest knowing means
      to have it all figured out.
      This is not so.

      The highest knowing is not-knowing.

      Some people think not-knowing is ignorance.
      This is not so.

      Ignorance is thinking we know
      what is unknowable.

      When we lose our footing and slip
      on the slick pavement of our vanity
      we fall into the unknowable ditch of meditation.

      The ditch of meditation is deep and wide:
      full of freedom and miracles,
      it cannot be filled.

      We cannot measure the ditch of meditation,
      we cannot pour foundations for knowing --

      We can only trip into its not-knowing
      and laugh at the scholars
      scampering for more footing.


      --Rob Rabbin
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      The Swami Contest!

      lol! there are already so *many*swami's for people, i think we should
      consider another market. . .i submit for your consideration ****swami
      doggie-ji***satsang for your pet! our slogan: more dog--less dogma.
      famous
      disciples could include the taco bell dog, who is actually flipper
      reincarnated. . . keiko the whale would be a cool celebrity spokesfish.
      besides offering pictures of swami doggie-ji, there could be a whole
      line of
      pet supplies, each bearing the doggie-ji tm logo. all books could be
      channeled through, say, me, and personally autographed with a paw print.
      the first one is near completion: "your master is you! woof!"

      (the ashram is gonna be a mess, so we'll need monk(ey)s :) )

      love and laughing,
      aleks
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      Mira: Anyone tell me what an ego is, and how it can be offended?

      Dan: Ego is the identification of
      no-thing with something, based on a perceived difference.
      The offense is to bring ego into contact with that which
      threatens this identification in some way. Ego is anxiety about
      loss, including the loss of continuity, loss of love, loss of
      importance, knowledge, being, power, orientation.
      Thus, it takes strength
      of ego to question the assumptions that support ego :-)
      Only ego that perceives its futility and is strong enough to be
      honest about this will intentionally
      maintain contact with That which undermines itself.
      To lose the assumptions underlying ego is not to lose anything,
      but it is to lose everything one has.
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      I do believe that it is our nature to be harmless and helpful. I don't
      think
      we can do that by pretending we are that....or acting like we are
      that....I
      think it takes fruition of healing and growth, surrender and wisdom,
      experience of the non-dual, and a satisfying condition in the "real
      world"
      in order to BECOME that..this cannot be a goal of intention, or at least
      I
      have found that when it is it backfires, .....one must be at peace with
      one's self, fully, in order to be at peace with the world. I am still
      putting many of the pieces of the "real world picture" back together for
      myself....that process and the process of spiritual learning seems to
      interlink and dance together, sometimes two steps forward and one step
      back,
      but better all the time.

      Love, Kristi
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      > j: Time is just a physical dimension like height, length and
      > width. The physical universe works with well defined laws so
      > it is useless to say height itself is heightless. The concept
      > "height" is heightless, not height itself.
      >
      Dan:
      There seems to be a good deal
      of confusion between physical
      (Einsteinian) time, which as
      Jan states "is just a physical
      dimension," and psychological
      time, the human sense of
      "becoming" rather than simply
      "being." Former simply is,
      the latter ends when thought
      ceases creating it.
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      > Mira:
      > When I needed the benevolent father figure to guide me home,
      > I sought out myself, in a form that I could understand and accept at that
      > time.
      > I never realized this,
      > until I came home.

      Petros:
      Yes, yes indeed that is a powerful Friend to have. That is who will
      carry
      you through the really rough spots, where you can't even hold onto the
      "voluntary suffering" anymore.

      But don't forget that sometimes Father/Mother seeks out and finds *you*
      --
      and He/She may be in the form of a speeding freight train barrelling
      down on
      you!
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