Friday, June 14, 2002
- #1104 - Friday, June 14, 2002 - Editor: Gloria LeeNote: all posts are from NDS unless specified.Nonduality image from:KHELAYA3:14 amThe mind is a tornadothat rips through the kingdom of peaceand tears all that is beautiful and rightinto pieceshurling debris without prejudicethrough all corners of the universeAwareness of the power and destruction of the tornadois the agent that renders it impotentaborting the possibility for the tornadoto twirl or to acquire one particle of dustJOHN METZGERLineageGrandfather G. Uru Father M. Aster Old Son The IlluminatorJOHN METZGERMETTA ZETTY*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*/\*
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Understanding the Finite and Infinite
is nothing other than
If Reality is one complete
undivided and unbroken Whole,
then everything you see
is a manifestation of That
which is Real and True.
No guru. No church.
Over the farmhouse,
the wind in the trees.
The fool by the signless
signpost, burden forgotten,
stands pointing the way.
Here on the mountain
where the path stops,
you go on into the snow alone.
Hell's gate is wide open
and heaven shimmers in the mirage.
The great sky is totally
devoid of cloud.
Zen monk, Welsh monasteryimage from Tibet 1600'sHimalayan Art
The mission of the Himalayan Art Project is to create a
comprehensive research archive of Himalayan and Tibetan
art. To this end, the project catalogues and exhibits
images of art from museum, university and private
collections around the world.ALAN LARUSDAN BERKOWQuotes (!!!) AdyashantiI enjoyed looking at his website.
Here's a nice excerpt:
I meet a lot of people who think they are enlightened and awake
simply because they have had a very moving spiritual experience. They
wear their enlightenment on their sleeve like a badge of honor. They
sit among friends and talk about how awake they are while sipping
coffee at a cafe. The funny thing about enlightenment is that when it
is authentic, there is no one to claim it. Enlightenment is very
ordinary; it is nothing special. Rather than making you more special,
it is going to make you less special. It plants you right in the
center of a wonderful humility and innocence. Everyone else may or
may not call you enlightened, but when you are enlightened the whole
notion of enlightenment and someone who is enlightened is a big joke.
I use the word enlightenment all the time; not to point you toward it
but to point you beyond it. Do not get stuck in enlightenment.JERRY KATZ"Do not get stuck in enlightenment."
I really like Adyashanti. I saw him speak a couple of times at Inner Directions. Me, I don't have any problem getting stuck in enlightenment. I'm too busy not thinking about purple flying elephants.
My new flyer:
Satsang with Unenlightened Spiritual Master Jerry Katz
Do not think about enlightenment when you are here.
U.S.M. Jerry Katz says:
The world is not perfect as it is. Believe me! I'm planning a date in
the near future when everyone in the world will have to stop what
they're doing for a second so I can straighten them all out.
Day 2 - June 13, 2002 New York City
Very different quality of experience from yesterday's talk. Deeper.
Talk itself was deeper. He said first thing he was going to take
questions the whole time, not give a talk, that he didn't like to
give a talk every time.
Then he gave a talk.
I purposely sat in a different seat than yesterday, to the side. I
discovered he does, in fact, tend to look directly at a couple of
people in front of him for most of the talk. I was happy to not be
one of those people tonight, noticed there were a lot fewer thoughts
about how I appeared to be responding.
Some themes of the evening:
Enlightenment as supremely rational. How "it" is, like the
procreative instinct, totally impersonal and just as insistent.
Like "it" is looking for a vehicle, and doesn't much care who that
How "spiritual experiences" are not it. His awakening-knowing he
would no longer have merely personal relationships.
Grace + volition. Can't control the grace part, can control volition.
Spiritual practice as purification of the desire.
"Normal" involves a split, an unreliability, complexity, shadow
selves. Enlightenment as the ultimate sanity, healing of the split
(waking to the illusion that there ever was one), simplicity,
groundlessness, constant dropping.
Explanation of difference between psychological "ego" (self-
organizing principle), and "ego" as in sense of separate self. Drop
the second, not the first.
Relationship-wanting to be free more than you want to be together.
Stickiness of sex. Not creating karma. Anti-tantra.
Yes, people have experiences around me, but it's not enough. You have
to want it more than anything.
I asked my question. Felt he was being straight with me. Clarified
that he is saying there is a hierarchy of desire. That the desire for
enlightenment is more important than anything else. That other
desires are desires for something, this is a desire for an end.
Does the impersonal nature of enlightenment make it meaningless? -
drop this question for now.
Transmission: A settling down. Clearing out.
Passionate talking after. Interesting discussion w/ Dutch woman about
the need for a teacher. There's no conflict about it for me right
now. Gratitude and indifference.
Can fellowship exist without "in" and "out"? Without religious
movement, coming together around a teacher?ALAN LARUS
They must be the ones my teacher warned me about 30 years ago.
She told me not to waste time in any gathering ,
but to live an ordinary life and keep my mouth shut.
So I did.
And I have not met anybody claiming enligtenment.
Not even using the word.
The last 3 years I have surfed around and seen all these websites
with strange discussions.
So something seemed right when I found these groups.
Nice to meet some ordinary people : )
It took some reading to learn what was going on.
A random pick from NDS!
I did go to a guru thing once, with flowers, I left when they
began showing a movie of a man in a room with flowers.
A bit disappointing, the poster said 'meet'.
HARSHA from HarshaSatsangh
Understanding and Recognizing the simplicity of Pure Being that stares It Self as It Self is spontaneous when investment in becoming something or appearing as something dries up.
As long as one is caught up and invested in a role of teacher, student, mystic, profound thinker, avatar, great soul, great guru, etc., one misses the clarity of one's own presence.
There is no freedom other than the freedom to be oneself. It lifts all burdens.
Who are these gurus trying to impress with their techniques and methods to improve others? Instead of interviewing the gurus, we should interview their spouses/girlfriends/boyfriends/ and get the real story! :-).
Love to all