93ND Highlights Sunday, Aug 29
- Sep 1, 1999Kristie waxes poetic:
to grasp the light
and hold it tight
the burning bright
and if I had no thing
tear the veil from my delusions;
then surely I have wandered through
the darkened wood
i shares with you;
and though the
still purely held
in open arms
I yield my faults to thee
that in the reaching, reaching,
through the harms,
sunlight comes to me;
and if I show you who I am,
and find solace in my bareness
then I have found the lighted path
and come to you in fairness.
...and dialogues with Judi:
> I want to clone your mind and see***********
> from your eyes for a day.
It would break your heart.
> I've been reading your web site....******* There is hope, yes.
> so full of hope...
> I hate hope....it just keeps me******* Yes, it gets old doesn't it?
> struggling to hang in there with
> the same old, same old..
After you go around the same block
a few hundred or so times, I think
one gets to a point where you got to
say, wait a darn minute here, there
surely must be something I'm
> "try" and do what you say...give up....******* Well for starters, you can give
up your whining?? How can you realize
anything if you're frustrated and feeling
sorry for yourself??? For this you're
gonna need a calm clear head. So whatever
you must do first, cry, whatever, get that
out of the way first. Your problems will
still be there in the morning, fuck the
problems. Life is full of problems, that
is never gonna change. This is about
yourself, a dive into yourself. So, put on
your snorkles and mask. :-) Give the gift
of an "all-nighter" to yourself like Bruce
says. Where you can really get to know
yourself wihtout any *situations* around
you. Clear space is what we're going for
here. Now, I'm not gonna take the fun out
of for you, the rest is up to you. This is
a simple enquiry into your own nature, into
what makes you tick, an overview so to speak.
Pretend your on your deathbed, because you
really are, it really is that serious. Sooner
or later you knew it would come to this
right??? Well that's where we're at Kristi.
The time has come the walrus said...and this
time there can be no turning back. This is a
forward march. Religion, psychology or
philosophy or mediative techniques of any
kind you can put on the shelf. If there was a
God to help you, surely he would have helped
by now. Or if there is a God, he's obviously
fucking off on the job. As Bette Davis has
said, if you want a job done and done right,
get an old broad to do it!! :-) I'm counting
on you Kristie.
Andrew mused on a common English expression:
'Paying attention' is an odd phrase isn't it?
In English we don't give attention or make
attention as we might in other languages, we pay
it. Is it a payment of time to attention
(attention being the payee)? Or is it payment
of attention to the thing being attended to?
And what is purchased?
Never at a loss for words, Gene responded:
In this context, the 'paying attention' is a
contraction of 'the paying of attention',
which is a contraction of the (archaic) 'paying-
out of attention', similar to the 'paying out'
of a rope by a sailor on a dock.
In this context, 'paying attention' does mean
exactly 'giving of attention'.
Our culture of expediency does strange things to
language. A similar example is the oft-used
'carrot and stick' metaphor; in popular parlance,
it is thought to mean to 'first offer a carrot
(inducement) and if that doesn't work, threaten
them with a stick'. The actual or original of
this now-distorted metaphor, is instead, '_the
carrot ON A stick_'. In this method of inducement,
the proffered carrot was dangled before the nose
of the mule or horse, who would then move toward
it. But because the driver, holding the carrot,
was pulled by the horse as it moved, the horse
never got a bite... only the tantalizing
possibility of the reward. The 'stick' part was
how the carrot was held, on a string, so far from
the driver. The stick was never used as a goad;
the vision of the reward was enough to draw
the horse forward. Sound familiar?
Time for another bar-b-que?
Marcia submitted her thoughts:
Attention is real. It is a form of will. If I pay
attention to the already existing sensation in my
body I am adding something. Most of the time our
attention is just sucked out of us by consensus
reality. To be able to pay attention means a
certain level of awareness above the threshold of
sleeping man. It isn't really required. We can live
our entire lives as a sleeping person and never
consciously pay attention to anything. If you can
develop the ability to keep your attention and
actually pay it, you will receive much more than
you ever would have dreamed of (pun intended).
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