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Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Re: Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

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  • Anne Klintworth
    The Ballymena Borough Council no longer has the books.  They are at the Braid and not available to the public at the moment. However - it is important to
    Message 1 of 13 , Jul 13 1:04 PM
      The Ballymena Borough Council no longer has the books.  They are at the Braid and not available to the public at the moment.
       
      However - it is important to remember - they only have records of burial for a very few places - mostly just grave registries.  And only for the cemeteries that the Borough Council took over.  The churches in Broughshane are not held there.  If there are burial registers they would be at the churches.  Unfortunately, it has been my experience that many times the records are lost, burned, never kept or whatever.
       
      But it would be worth your while to contact the church directly.  Whether or not they will answer is another story. 
       
      I can tell you that she is not listed in the burials at Clough cemetery. 
       
      My guess would be she is at 1st Broughshane and there is no stone.  So the church is the best bet I think.
       
      Anne

      From: "tcantwell@..." <tcantwell@...>
      To: Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:56:38 PM
      Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Re: Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

      Hi Anne

      My Great Grandmother Margaret Dale died in 31 August 1892 at the family farm at Ballycloghan and we have been unable to find out where she is buried. Mick Lynn at the Library in Ballymena has already searched all the transcriptions for me and nothing.

      If the Ballymena Borough Council do keep any Burial Registers, at least I might be able to find out where she was buried. Most of the family were baptised and/or buried at the First Broughshane Presbyterian Church but only son Samuel and daughter Ellen were buried there.

      Shirlee
      Wellington
      New Zealand


    • John Waugh
      Gordon the Presbyterian Historical Society is not closed down due to Financial Problems. Only the Library is closed at the moment, they are working on the
      Message 2 of 13 , Jul 13 1:20 PM
         
        Gordon the Presbyterian Historical Society is not closed down due to Financial Problems.  Only the Library is closed at the moment, they are working on the Church House building were the Library is. I think you are getting mixed up with the Presbyterian Mutual Society which is in Financial Problems.
         
        John

        Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:08 PM
        Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

        Shirlee: While I am not sure of this , I think PRONI would be your best bet and many of their church records are on line, you can google their web site and look and see if you can find it, if not e mail them at: proni@dcalni. gov.uk  and ask them specifically if they have it. If they do, then you can either go and look at them in person or have them  research your question for a small fee. Also going by memory I think their is a historical Society for Ballymena and they have a web site, so try googleing them also. I know for a fact that Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast has fragments of early 1700's church records for one or two parishes in that area,  however the society is closed down for financial problems. Hopefully they will receive fubnds and re-open by Sept. they are located in Belfast and are know to have some 1700's church records from this area. For Pres. Hist. Soc. try http://www.presbyte rianhistoryirela nd.com/  if they re-open they would be the best bet, however they WILL NOT DO LOOK UPS, so you would have to go in person.
         
                                                                             Gordon Crooks
        Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:38 AM
        Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealog y] Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

        I believe Anne will have that info as she is in the process of transcribing of of them.  If she is not away on a vacation she will probably post a message for you later today.


        Linda
        On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:49 PM, tcantwell@xtra. co.nz wrote:



        Hi

        Does anyone know if the Balymena Council keep any Burial Registers? If they do, how far back do they go and can the public access them.

        My cousin is going to be in Ballymena 3rd week of September and is going to do some research. We are trying to work out what he is able to do and not able to do in the time he has in that area. We haven't been able to find out where our Great Grandmother was buried but we have the date she died.

        Shirlee
        Wellington
        New Zealand




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      • Michael Robinson
        Shirlee: There is a site you may want to visit. It is History from Headstones at www.historyfromheadstones.com. They have free and paid searches. I checked
        Message 3 of 13 , Jul 13 1:58 PM
          Shirlee:
          There is a site you may want to visit. It is"History from Headstones" at www.historyfromheadstones.com. They have free and paid searches. I checked the free search and found a Margaret Dale who erected a head stone for her 2 sons, James and Thomas also 3 grand children. From the dates it may be your Margaret. The graveyard was the Cairncastle CI and located in Ballygalley. The paid site search shows an additional 7 Dales buried in the same graveyard as well as about 9 other Dale listings.
          Hope this helps,
          Mike Robinson


          --- In Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "tcantwell@..." <tcantwell@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hi Anne
          >
          > My Great Grandmother Margaret Dale died in 31 August 1892 at the family farm at Ballycloghan and we have been unable to find out where she is buried. Mick Lynn at the Library in Ballymena has already searched all the transcriptions for me and nothing.
          >
          > If the Ballymena Borough Council do keep any Burial Registers, at least I might be able to find out where she was buried. Most of the family were baptised and/or buried at the First Broughshane Presbyterian Church but only son Samuel and daughter Ellen were buried there.
          >
          > Shirlee
          > Wellington
          > New Zealand
          >
        • Linda Holley
          John, Thank you for this message. I was worrying I was going to be unable to look up records for Gordon and myself the next time I am in Belfast. I also
          Message 4 of 13 , Jul 13 3:42 PM
            John,

            Thank you for this message.  I was worrying I was going to be unable to look up records for Gordon and myself the next time I am in Belfast.  I also thought the closing was probably due to the Mutual Society problems.

            Linda
            On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:20 PM, John Waugh wrote:




             
            Gordon the Presbyterian Historical Society is not closed down due to Financial Problems.  Only the Library is closed at the moment, they are working on the Church House building were the Library is. I think you are getting mixed up with the Presbyterian Mutual Society which is in Financial Problems.
             
            John

            Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:08 PM
            Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealog y] Burial Registers - Ballymena Council


            Shirlee: While I am not sure of this , I think PRONI would be your best bet and many of their church records are on line, you can google their web site and look and see if you can find it, if not e mail them at: proni@dcalni. gov.uk  and ask them specifically if they have it. If they do, then you can either go and look at them in person or have them  research your question for a small fee. Also going by memory I think their is a historical Society for Ballymena and they have a web site, so try googleing them also. I know for a fact that Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast has fragments of early 1700's church records for one or two parishes in that area,  however the society is closed down for financial problems. Hopefully they will receive fubnds and re-open by Sept. they are located in Belfast and are know to have some 1700's church records from this area. For Pres. Hist. Soc. try http://www.presbyte rianhistoryirela nd.com/  if they re-open they would be the best bet, however they WILL NOT DO LOOK UPS, so you would have to go in person.
             
                                                                                 Gordon Crooks
            Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:38 AM
            Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealog y] Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

            I believe Anne will have that info as she is in the process of transcribing of of them.  If she is not away on a vacation she will probably post a message for you later today.


            Linda
            On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:49 PM, tcantwell@xtra. co.nz wrote:



            Hi

            Does anyone know if the Balymena Council keep any Burial Registers? If they do, how far back do they go and can the public access them.

            My cousin is going to be in Ballymena 3rd week of September and is going to do some research. We are trying to work out what he is able to do and not able to do in the time he has in that area. We haven't been able to find out where our Great Grandmother was buried but we have the date she died.

            Shirlee
            Wellington
            New Zealand







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          • tcantwell@xtra.co.nz
            Thanks Anne. Do you have an address for the 1st Broughshane Presbyterian Church. I have also thoroughly searched the History of Headstones site. The names of
            Message 5 of 13 , Jul 13 3:49 PM
              Thanks Anne. Do you have an address for the 1st Broughshane Presbyterian Church.

              I have also thoroughly searched the History of Headstones site. The names of Margaret Dale's children were: Ferguson, John, Elizabeth, Samuel and Eleanor (Ellen). Ferguson immigrated to Australia; John - haven't been able to find him; Elizabeth married James Houston of Gilgad; Samuel and Ellen remained unmarried and are buried together at the 1st Broughshane Cemetery with a headstone.

              Thank you for all the responses.

              Shirlee Cantwell (Dale)
              Wellington
              New Zealand




              --- In Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com, Anne Klintworth <ashierk@...> wrote:
              >
              > The Ballymena Borough Council no longer has the books.  They are at the Braid and not available to the public at the moment.
              >
              > However - it is important to remember - they only have records of burial for a very few places - mostly just grave registries.  And only for the cemeteries that the Borough Council took over.  The churches in Broughshane are not held there.  If there are burial registers they would be at the churches.  Unfortunately, it has been my experience that many times the records are lost, burned, never kept or whatever.
              >
              > But it would be worth your while to contact the church directly.  Whether or not they will answer is another story. 
              >
              > I can tell you that she is not listed in the burials at Clough cemetery. 
              >
              > My guess would be she is at 1st Broughshane and there is no stone.  So the church is the best bet I think.
              >
              > Anne
              >
              >
              > >
              > >From: "tcantwell@..." <tcantwell@...>
              > >To: Mid-AntrimGenealogy@yahoogroups.com
              > >Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:56:38 PM
              > >Subject: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Re: Burial Registers - Ballymena Council
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >Hi Anne
              > >
              > >My Great Grandmother Margaret Dale died in 31 August 1892 at the family farm at Ballycloghan and we have been unable to find out where she is buried. Mick Lynn at the Library in Ballymena has already searched all the transcriptions for me and nothing.
              > >
              > >If the Ballymena Borough Council do keep any Burial Registers, at least I might be able to find out where she was buried. Most of the family were baptised and/or buried at the First Broughshane Presbyterian Church but only son Samuel and daughter Ellen were buried there.
              > >
              > >Shirlee
              > >Wellington
              > >New Zealand
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
            • Gordon Crooks
              John: Their web site does not indicate why they are closed, so you could be right. I was given the info by someone who lives in Belfast and the impression I
              Message 6 of 13 , Jul 13 5:26 PM
                John: Their web site does not indicate why they are closed, so you could be right. I was given the info by someone who lives in Belfast and the impression I got is that  organizations that invested in the Mutual Society aren't getting much in the way of dividends. I don't know if this is true or not.
                 
                                                                               Gordon
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:20 PM
                Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealogy] Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

                 
                Gordon the Presbyterian Historical Society is not closed down due to Financial Problems.  Only the Library is closed at the moment, they are working on the Church House building were the Library is. I think you are getting mixed up with the Presbyterian Mutual Society which is in Financial Problems.
                 
                John

                Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:08 PM
                Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealog y] Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

                Shirlee: While I am not sure of this , I think PRONI would be your best bet and many of their church records are on line, you can google their web site and look and see if you can find it, if not e mail them at: proni@dcalni. gov.uk  and ask them specifically if they have it. If they do, then you can either go and look at them in person or have them  research your question for a small fee. Also going by memory I think their is a historical Society for Ballymena and they have a web site, so try googleing them also. I know for a fact that Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast has fragments of early 1700's church records for one or two parishes in that area,  however the society is closed down for financial problems. Hopefully they will receive fubnds and re-open by Sept. they are located in Belfast and are know to have some 1700's church records from this area. For Pres. Hist. Soc. try http://www.presbyte rianhistoryirela nd.com/  if they re-open they would be the best bet, however they WILL NOT DO LOOK UPS, so you would have to go in person.
                 
                                                                                     Gordon Crooks
                Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:38 AM
                Subject: Re: [Mid-AntrimGenealog y] Burial Registers - Ballymena Council

                I believe Anne will have that info as she is in the process of transcribing of of them.  If she is not away on a vacation she will probably post a message for you later today.


                Linda
                On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:49 PM, tcantwell@xtra. co.nz wrote:



                Hi

                Does anyone know if the Balymena Council keep any Burial Registers? If they do, how far back do they go and can the public access them.

                My cousin is going to be in Ballymena 3rd week of September and is going to do some research. We are trying to work out what he is able to do and not able to do in the time he has in that area. We haven't been able to find out where our Great Grandmother was buried but we have the date she died.

                Shirlee
                Wellington
                New Zealand




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