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  • Paul T.
    According to Leonardo DaVinci: Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication .
    Message 1 of 159 , May 21, 2013
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      According to Leonardo DaVinci: "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication".

      --- In Michalak@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Breeding" <pbreedingco2@...> wrote:
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      > Daniel,
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      > "Sophisticated Simplicity" seems like a contradiction of terms, however in
      > this case I think it's merited.
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      > Paul Breeding
      > Broomfield CO
      > SCAMP, Peep Hen & more
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      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: daniel brown
      > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:26 PM
      > To: Michalak@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: RE: [Michalak] Re: Sail Plans
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      > re sunfish racing, the starboard tack with the sail leeward of the mast is
      > maybe faster footing upwind than the sail against the mast (port tack) which
      > may be faster pointing ( sailing a little higher) because the sail is a
      > little flatter because the front of the sail is pressed against the mast.
      > either way, the sunfish is a fast boat for its size and ( sophisticated)
      > simplicity
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      > To: Michalak@yahoogroups.com
      > From: jtrussell2@...
      > Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 08:01:50 -0400
      > Subject: RE: [Michalak] Re: Sail Plans
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      > Simon,
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      > You may be confusing the lateen with the dipping lug sail. The lateen does
      > not require moving the sail from one side of the mast to the other. When
      > the sail blows against the mast, the mast changes the shape of the sail and,
      > in theory, this results in better performance on one tack than the other. In
      > practice, this is not noticeable. The lateen rig is used on the ubiquitous
      > and highly competitive Sunfish and the "good tack/bad tack" is not an issue.
      >
      > JohnT
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      > From: Michalak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Michalak@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      > Of simonfbroad
      > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:06 PM
      > To: Michalak@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [Michalak] Re: Sail Plans
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      > Nels
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      > I've always liked the look of the lateen, but I read somewhere that when
      > tacking you had to move the entire sail, boom, everything to the other side
      > of the mast, on each tack, making them difficult to handle.
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      > Just wondered two things:
      > * is that correct?
      > * if it is, why don't you have to do the same with a lug sail?
      >
      > Simon.
      >
      > --- In Michalak@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Michalak%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      > "prairiedog2332" <nelsarv@> wrote:
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      > > Just a couple more observations. Another sail plan that works fine with
      > > a short mast is the lateen rig. And both it and the lug are easy to make
      > > from polytarp as neither requires a lot of shaping and if the material
      > > stretches a bit may just improves the shape in lighter winds.
      > >
      > >
      > > For a canoe or shorter hull, I found an 8' piece of closet rod is all I
      > > need and picked up a nice round clear one for $10! Just have to decide
      > > on what to use for the yards. Folks down south use bamboo but can't
      > > locate it up north here.
      > >
      > > Michalak also shows a lateen can be made in a high aspect ratio as well.
      > >
      > > http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/tween/index.htm
      > > <http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/tween/index.htm>
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      > > A folding upper yard make it possible to store the sail in a very short
      > > hull. Can it be reefed - not likely very easily - so best in a small
      > > size? Lateen sails are generally scandalized. Generally more easy to
      > > handle than a sprit sail though in my thinking, as you just let got the
      > > lanyard and down she comes.
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      > > Nels
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    • John Boy
      Thank you. For some reason, my Chrome browser stopped translating.  Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 159 of 159 , Sep 1, 2013
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        Thank you. For some reason, my Chrome browser stopped translating. 

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