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Re: [MexicoDNAProject] New Arana Results Posted

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  • Jose rodriguez
    Portugal and spin  were known as the Hiberian Peninsula. The first inhabitants  were known as Hiberos ________________________________ From: Dahlia Palacios
    Message 1 of 7 , Aug 4, 2013
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      Portugal and spin  were known as the Hiberian Peninsula. The first inhabitants  were known as Hiberos



      From: Dahlia Palacios <dahlpalaci@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] New Arana Results Posted

       
      Thanks Gary. I appreciate your input and have shared your email with my husband.

      Dahlia

       
      Dahlia Guajardo-Cantu de Palacios


      From: Gary Felix <garyf@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:48 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] New Arana Results Posted

       
      Hi Dahlia,
      when I looked at your husbands results before I could not find any matches:
      Palacios, TomasSan Pedro de Las Colonias, Coahuila Mexico>Pearsall Texas>Simi Valley, California. Unconfirmed Haplogroup R1b. Most common origin in Spain and Europe. Oldest Ydna ancestor - Jose Angel Palacios b circa 1840>Esmerejildo Palacios-Aguilar b circa 4/17/1872 m in Pearsall Tx. Email Dahlia Guajardo-Cantu de Palacios

      As I mentioned to Joel in my previous post today Markers can survive if they are far enough away from the parent. This is the case for Single Tandem Repeats (STR) which are the values of repeats found in a particular region of DNA. For example Y haplogroup most typically has 13 STR's at DYS393 in haplogroup R1b-P312. There are markers in the Americas that have survived because they are expanding and dying out in the old world. They can expand due to founder advantage. 

      I mentioned in a previous post that I like to look at close clusters a step apart and this is FTDNA's database matches for your husband under his ancestral origins page:

      12 Marker

      GENETIC DISTANCE -1

      CountryMatch TotalCountry TotalPercentageComments
      England123931< 0.1 %
      Ireland114064< 0.1 %
      Portugal27860.3%
      Switzerland118440.1%
      Based on this table and without any other databases with close matches it looks like your husbands haplotype is from a Portuguese haplotype.

      Portuguese genetics show up in our project enough so that it is not correct to assume Spanish origins for all our surname lines.  Surnames were changed frequently.

      Hope this helps,
      Gary  

      From: Dahlia Palacios <dahlpalaci@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 6:28 AM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] New Arana Results Posted

       
      Gary when you have time send me your interpretation of my husbands R1B-M269, Tomas Palacios, since to this date I have no matches other then my son's,Richard. I also had family finder done to no avail to my satisfaction. I may be missing something.
      Thanks Dahlia
       
      Dahlia Guajardo-Cantu de Palacios


      From: "garyf@..." <garyf@...>
      To: MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 11:47 PM
      Subject: [MexicoDNAProject] New Arana Results Posted

       
      Arana, Ignacio SegoviaTenamaxtlan, Jalisco Mexico>Tijuana, Baja California Mexico. Haplogroup R1b-U152. Most common in Switzerland/Southern Germany. See this 20 of 22 marker YDNA match to Brazil in this (log in first then click the following link) - Sorenson database search. Oldest Ydna ancestor - Agustin Arana b.about 1901 m. Refugio Trujillo. Contact: Tim Fichtner
      There are only 5 R1b-U152 results in our project. The climate of Europe was volatile even after 10K years ago.  A climate turn could have brought some of this group back to Iberia where Western R1b expanded from after the Last Glacial Maximum.
      Gary
       
       
       








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