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572Re: [MexicoDNAProject] Haplogroup Q Haplotypes from our Project and their likely Origin

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  • Gary Felix
    Aug 23, 2013
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      Hi Joel,
      I thought Behar had Q1b as a middle eastern marker?

      Gary


      From: Joel Peres <joelfrancisperes@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:46 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] Haplogroup Q Haplotypes from our Project and their likely Origin

       
      The interesting thing about Q1b is that its found in Mexicans, Sephardi & Ashkenazim so it may have formed before the split between Mizrahim/Sephardim/Ashkenazim.   Some have speculated that it may have entered the Ashkenazim gene pool via the Khazars, but then a substantial number of them would have had to have migrated to Iberia in order for us to have Iberians/Mexicans w/ this designation.  I've read that there was a relatively decent amount of social, religious, commercial interaction between Iberian Sephardi & Mizrahim from modern day Iraq, Palestine, and Cairo during the middle ages.  Among one of my Mexican Q1b autosomal matches is an Aceves family from Jalisco.


      On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:11 PM, garyf@... <garyf@...> wrote:
       
      This is a Q-L53 which is early on the Native American branch (L53+, M242+, L191-, M3-) http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpQ.html
      Gallegos, BenNative American - Q-L5313231410 101612121113143117 080911112414192914 141616
      This is Q-M3 which is an expansion Native American marker which has back migrated into Siberia in small numbers:
      Corbera Surname - DYS Markers
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      Corbera, Florentino L.Native American - Q-M314231310 151812121212132818 090911092514202814 141517

      This is a subclade of Q that expanded out of the Middle East and is parallel to the branch that reached the Americas:
      Dominguez, RubenCentral Asia/Middle East - Q-L938 14251310 1417121212 14133017 0909111127 15183114 151616



      This is a Q1b which is likely Jewish in origin as this origin seems to have survived in Iberia with the Jews (this sample is from north western Mexico) and matches Sephardics in Iberia:
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      Altamirano (Anonymous)Central Asia/Middle East - Q1b-M378

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      Generally speaking Q's with no matches or US are Native American. If you match closely Europeans or Middle Easterners or other non Native American groups I would suggest testing further. 


      Saludos,
      Gary
      Mexico DNA Project Admin.






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