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417Re: [MexicoDNAProject] R1b-Z214

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  • Joel Peres
    Aug 5, 2013
      Wow, it looks like we're the 4 amigos!
      Did they mention if you happen to be part of the North South cluster?
      Terminal SNP is the last SNP that you've tested positive for.  In my case, regarding FTDNA, my terminal SNP is Z278+......they mean terminal because I not only tested positive for Z278, but I tested negative for the next one in the sequence, which in my case I'm Z214-.  I'm guessing you're a good candidate to be M153+

      On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Danny Borquez <danny_borquez@...> wrote:

      Hey Joel,
      I forgot to add some other info on the msg. board:

      Z278+,Z211+,Z212+,  Same as above



      Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 9:56 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] R1b-Z214

      Hi Joel,

       My Borquez family, which I believe were French Basque from Spain, arrived in Sonora in the late 1700's and my grandparents lived near Hermosillo and Cananea before coming to San Fernando, Ca in 1921. Since I'm new to this, I don't know how to figure out my terminal SNP. I actually looked up Terminal SNP and that didn't help.


      From: Joel Peres <joelfrancisperes@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 8:00 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] R1b-Z214

      Thanks for sharing that Danny,
      What's your terminal SNP?  Mine is Z278+ however,  I'm Z214- as well as M153-
      On Nat Geo I'm R-Z212.
      Within Mexico, where's your Y from?  Mine is from Nuevo Leon. 
      Joel F Peres
      Chandler, AZ 

      On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Danny Borquez <danny_borquez@...> wrote:
      Hi Gary,
        I was looking at the message board for the Rib-P312 Project because of one the guys from the Geno 2.0 had contacted me and a name from your discussions came up, Joel Peres. Someone in the group wanted to look at my raw data because my results confirms Joel's CTS 12074 result. I just thought I'd pass that on.


      From: Gary Felix <garyf@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 2:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] R1b-Z214

      Your welcome Danny,
      If he is a Borquez you would only see if there had been a mutation between him and yourself. Not very likely but could happen. 


      From: Danny Borquez <danny_borquez@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:25 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] R1b-Z214

      Thanks Gary, I meant to ask you one more thing, my grandfathers brother is still alive, would there be a good reason to have him tested?


      From: "garyf@..." <garyf@...>
      To: MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:38 AM
      Subject: [MexicoDNAProject] R1b-Z214

      Hi Danny,
      you are the only one in our project with null at DYS641. 

      You have tested out to Z214 which is ancestral to M153 which is the marker found in about 10 percent of the Basque males. 

      Interesting result.

      Here is a search on Null values from the FTDNA website:

      A NULL value is when there has been a mutation that prevents a reading for a  Y-chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) STR (Short Tandem Repeat) from being obtainable. It may be an actual deletion of the entire STR. It may also be caused by a change in DNA values such that the primer does not work.


      --- In MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com, Danny Borquez wrote:
      > Hi Gary,
      >   I'm in 5 different groups, I noticed that for DYS 641, I am the only 0 in all the groups except for one person in one group otherwise everything else is almost an exact match, what does that mean?
      > Danny

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