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395Re: [MexicoDNAProject] Fw: Michael Bravo Lopez

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  • popbravo
    Aug 3, 2013
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      Gary,
      Are you saying I can/should test for these three possibilities, or is the test even available?
      Michael


      From: Gary Felix <garyf@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 5:58 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] Fw: Michael Bravo Lopez

       
      You could be DF17 also.

      Gary


      From: Gary Felix <garyf@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:48 PM
      Subject: Re: [MexicoDNAProject] Fw: Michael Bravo Lopez

       
      Hi Michael,
      on the project page you 155630 are Z196
      López Surname - DYS Markers
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      López, RudySemitic - J2,(M172+)132414101416111510131130....................................................
      López, GastonWest European - R1b122414111114121211141331....................................................
      López, BernardinoIberian - R1b-Z196 (xL176.2, M153)13241311111412121113142917091011112514182914151617

      From the DF27 branch of the haplogroup tree:


      you are negative at L176.2 so you could still be positive for Z294 and Z220.

      I couldn't find your name or email in the project so I found your kit number as you posted it in this email. 
      López, BernardinoPenjamo, Guanajuato Mexico>California. Haplogroup R1b. Most common origin in Spain and Europe. See these YDNA 9 marker Iberian matches in a - YHRD database search. Oldest Ydna ancestor - Bernardino Lopez b.circa 1850, Email Bernardino Lopez

      As we get more samples from Guanajuato I suspect a match will come up. 

      I don't match anyone either.

      Saludos,
      Gary

      From: "popbravo@..." <popbravo@...>
      To: "MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com" <MexicoDNAProject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 3:38 PM
      Subject: [MexicoDNAProject] Fw: Michael Bravo Lopez

       

      ----- Forwarded Message -----
      From: "popbravo@..." <popbravo@...>
      To: Armando ronebee <mexr1b@...>
      Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 3:26 PM
      Subject: Re: Michael Bravo Lopez

      Armando & Gary,
       Thanks for the responses to my query. I do not seem to fit into any of the deep ancestry classifications posted by Gary.
      Someone else recently posted that all of their "close matches" are with folks of English/Irish/German ancestry. The same
      thing happens to me @ 12 markers. I know that does not mean much except for ancient dna, but I am puzzled that I don't
      seem to have any close matches with Spanish/Mexican testees. Am I understanding this correctly or am I simply not 
      getting it??
      Buen dia,
      Michael Bravo


      From: Armando ronebee <mexr1b@...>
      To: "popbravo@..." <popbravo@...>
      Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 1:27 PM
      Subject: Re: Michael Bravo Lopez

      Hello Michael,

      Thank you for contacting me. I greatly appreciate your comment. I found your kit number in the R1b-DF27 project. I went to the SNP tab under Y-DNA results and it provides all of the SNPs that you tested for which are -

      L176.2-, L21-, M126-, M153-, M160-, M173+, M18-, M207+, M222-, M269+, M343+, M37-, M65-, M73-, P107-, P25+, P312+, P66-, SRY2627-, U106-, U152-, U198-, Z196+

      A plus sign means the test was positive test and a minus sign means it tested negative.

      You tested positive for Z196 which is directly below DF27 so you are positive for DF27 because all other Z196 are positive for DF27.

      Here is a diagram of the DF27 tree

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17907527/R1b-DF27_Descendency_Tree.jpg

      The whole R1b tree can be seen at http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html

      I am short on time at the moment so I will have to look into what else you can test for on another day.

      Hasta pronto,
      Armando
       

      From: "popbravo@..." <popbravo@...>
      To: "mexr1b@..." <mexr1b@...>
      Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:13 AM
      Subject: Michael Bravo Lopez

      Hello,
      In reference to your posted reply, I am sending you this info directly.
      I am impressed with your seeming in-depth knowledge of dna and 
      specifically about "Mexican dna". So I am providing you my kit #
      155630, and would greatly appreciate any/all advice, interpretation
      and recommendations for further testing.
      Buen dia,
      Michael












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