Re: Nostalgia - Todd & I!
- So many notebooks, so little time. . .
Yet. . .
Todd had asked:
> Perhaps Robert can remember theNot expecting much, I pulled a couple of the many notebooks off my shelf
> pseudonyms (two of them) that guy
just to see if I could quickly find a reference to those things.
Lo, and behold. . .there it was.
So, I propose, Todd, that the names you were asking about were:
> William C.Finding the name of the fellow who outed Dr. Bert and his secret letter
> Jack Lewis
was not there, and I didn't take the time to look further.
I wonder if the WayBack machine would still have a link to the Internet
posting of the letter, with Dr. Fox addendum.
Maybe when and if I get the time I'll check that out.
- David Proffitt!
It was David Proffitt!
That was the fellow's name who thought in his effort to "get Baty" that
he would just put up Dr. Bert's secret letter on the Internet, with the
Dr. Fox addendum.
The original link address was:
I couldn't get the WayBack Machine to find it. Maybe someone else
(geocentrist or not) can retrieve the page for us.
As best I can tell, Dr. Fox has yet to endorse or repudiate the addendum
implicating him in the secret campaign to "get Baty".
- --- In Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com, rlbaty@w... wrote:
> David Proffitt!
> It was David Proffitt!
> That was the fellow's name who thought in his effort to "get Baty"
> he would just put up Dr. Bert's secret letter on the Internet, withthe
> Dr. Fox addendum.Re: David Proffitt
> The original link address was:
> I couldn't get the WayBack Machine to find it. Maybe someone else
> (geocentrist or not) can retrieve the page for us.
Could this be the guy? Pastor of Aletheia Church, member of the
Southern Baptist Conservatives of Virginia?
They appear to allow musical instruments in worship service:
Or what about this one, Sunday school director of Faith Baptist
Church in Cullowhwee, NC?:
And then there's David Proffitt the Scout leader at Suber-Marshall
Memorial United Methodist Church in Columbia, SC:
There is also apparently a David Proffitt who is the pastor of
Licking River Baptist Church in Magoffin Co., KY:
Deacon of Maple Grove Christian Church in Charlottesville, VA:
Or instructor of Physical Education and Religion at Marian Central
Catholic High School:
Also a few dead ones out there...
- Todd, you wrote (with some modification on my part), in part:
> The problem is that these old,Todd, as you also know so well, my own classic example of what you are
> discredited claims are regurgitated
> in sermons, church bulletins, and
> Bible class study materials year after
> year and decade after decade by
> people who have zero understanding
> of the real science behind the issues.
> So some poor kid like Darrell Broking
> or David Proffitt comes along 50 years
> after. . .and they read (this) moldy oldy
> nonsense. . ., and so they just use them
> in support of what they believe without
> actually understanding any of the details
> of the genuine science (and history)
> behind the issues.
> And the bigger problem is when someone
> (not a geocentrist) else comes along who
> actually knows something about the
> science (and/or history) of the issue, and
> he points out why the claim is in error,
> and then - here's the big problem - Darrell
> or David or whoever (i.e., Dr. Bert) it is
> cannot bear to admit that he's made a
> mistake, and so the YEC games begin!
> As you know so well, this is the typical
> pattern displayed by young earth
talking about has to do with that Maury story (and statue) that Dr.
Bert helped popularize in my generation.
Just a few minutes ago I "Googled" on "paths of the sea" "Psalm 8:8".
Here's the first link and quote that came up:
God of Science
The Paths of the Sea
In the 1800s, Matthew Maury, an officer in the United States Navy
believed his Bible.
One day Maury was reading Psalm 8. He was amazed that verse 8 spoke of
the fish and all creatures that swim in the "paths of the sea."
"Paths of the sea"how could this be? He never knew there was such a
He was determined to find them.
Maury discovered that the oceans have many paths or currents, which were
like rivers flowing through the sea.
Maury wrote the first book on oceanography and became known as "the
pathfinder of the seas""The father of modern navigation."
Maury received his idea about ocean currents from reading Psalm 8:8
which was written about 3,000 years ago by King David. David wrote as he
was moved by the Spirit of God and probably never actually saw an ocean.
Yep, I think it is the case that Dr. Bert and his kind have put plenty
enough of that sort of thing out there that they could and should spend
the rest of their careers trying to put a stop to the propogation of
You've seen how little success I have had with my "feeble attempts" in
trying to clean up some of their messes.
Dr. Bert could start with something simply like just explaining where he
did come up with his Maury statue claim.
Dr. Bert might followup with his admission that he knows that the CRSQ
letter was not my "feeble attempt" as he claimed over and over again.
Dr. Bert might followup that with admitting and explaining his
involvement in the demise of my first little discussion list.
Dr. Bert might followup with a full disclosure of the secret removal of
his moon-dust claims from his website.
Dr. Bert might followup with a full disclosure of the extent to which he
came to develop and circulate that secret letter about me and his
knowledge and involvement regarding that addendum implicating Dr. Fox in
his efforts to "get Baty".
Dr. Bert might followup with. . . . . . .
It will take some time, of course, but I am sure that after a few years
of cleaning up his mess, Dr. Bert is going to feel a lot better about
My own starts July 1, 2005.
If Dr. Bert doesn't get started on his mess, he may never get to retire.
He'll just keep digging his hole deeper and deeper. According to the
popular caricature and the way the preachers preach it, we have some
idea where that will get Dr. Bert. I would rather he were headed the
If you go to:
. . .you will find a link to the New England Churches of Christ which is
supposed to include a discussion board.
I think that is where all the excitement took place back in 1998/1999.
I couldn't get the link to connect today; got a prompt saying it was too
So, I don't know if is is still up and running or not.
I do think they've changed there procedure somewhat since Todd and I
were there (hey, even Gil Yoder made some appearances during the heat of
As for David Proffitt, at one time he indicated that his e-mail address
> dp40@...I don't know if that was good or not. I tried sending some messages to
that address and had some trouble. My recollection and records are that