To Rick, my reply!
- Rick, you wrote, in part:
> I haven't run across one thatThat, as determined by our own "Mathewmaury", stands for "Gene and
> tells me what "GRAS" stands for.
Argument Supreme". I guess I get credit for adding the "Goliath" to it.
Isn't that right, "Mathewmaury"?
Gene was active at the time on this list and in opposition to
"Mathewmaury", though the credit for the argument itself probably rests
with me. The "G" seemed to fit in with "Mathewmaury"'s designs in
coining the term.
> It certainly is a formidable argument,Me, too smug? I think we'd all agree that the point of "Goliath" has
> but it is not new, so don't go
> trying to trademark it, Robert.
> . . .there are many who have
> come to the same conclusion
> forced by Goliath's logic, long
> before Goliath was ever postulated.
> So don't be too smug.
been common wherever the issues are discussed. If I am deserving of any
credit, it is in presenting the argument in a concise, valid logical
format that, to date, has been victorious in all challenges against it.
It is, IMHO, "THE" argument that sets forth the fundamental issue facing
the "young-earth, creation-science" movement.
As reflected in our discussion here, it has been an excellent vehicle
for backing would be proponents of YEC into the corner of having to
admit that their fundamental position regarding real world
interpretations of the text is not falsifiable based on real world
I would be glad to give credit to anyone else who has actually set forth
such a concise and logical statement of the issue as is reflected in the
"Goliath of GRAS".
If you find such specific references, please feel free to post them. I
do have my 15 minutes to share with them.
Here again for reference, is my "Goliath of GRAS":
If God's word (the text) says everything began over a period of six
days, is interpreted by some to mean it was six 24-hour days occurring a
few thousand years ago, and there is empirical evidence that things are
actually much older than a few thousand years, then the interpretation
of the text by some is wrong.
God's word (the text) says everything began over a period of six days,
is interpreted by some to mean it was six 24-hour days occurring a few
thousand years ago, and there is empirical evidence that things are
actually much older than a few thousand years.
The interpretation of the text by some is wrong.
In conclusion, and in reference to your invitation to "Mathewmaury", I
do hope you get his attention. I would like to see how you and he get