Re: [Maury_and_Baty] Re: Worth repeating (about this list's owner)!
- There was no threat of legal action, veiled or otherwise. I simply noted that it is actionable. There is precious little on any mailing list worthy of my time and trouble beyond noting my agreement or disagreement. However, I thought it best, since he is not a US resident, to simply point out that what I find merely objectionable, others more litigious than I (and we in the US are quite a litigious society) may decide is actionable and worthy of pursuit. I did this because I find Keith to be a generally interesting and engaging fellow, and felt that he truly did not intend any harm, but rather humor; and I would not wish to see him become the object of someone's actual ire. That being the case, why would I make a threat?
If it was taken as a threat, I humbly apologize. That was not, and would never be, my intention.
Keith took my message in its entirety, and changed just enough words to make it read as if I were saying the exact opposite of what I originally said. Am I the only one who realized that he used my message verbatim with the exception of a couple of words? Surely not. But again, while I do not approve of my words being used in this manner, I do realize that he was merely attempting to create a humorous post, and I am not at all angry about it. I would simply prefer that it not be done in the future, simply because it could create a situation wherein due to confusion it may appear to others that I said something I did not say.
For clarification, here is his message. The lower-case words are my original message. The capitalized words are his changes to my original message:
If you are referencing Robert's propensity to discuss
such matters as the Maury statue, I'm afraid that he
will be unable to "behave" himself. Robert is who he
is. Sure, he discusses that (and certain other
matters) a lot, but that's part of his LACK OF charm as
far as I'm concerned.
Robert (was) on several of my lists, and everyone is
quite OPPOSED to him exactly the way he is (and we are
talking about 600 members total).
I have never received one complaint about Robert, BUT MANY,
and he is completely unmoderated NOW BEING
BANNED. For that reason, I cannot help but wonder if
perhaps his questions are making folks in certain
circles uncomfortable for reasons other than the fact
of his "insistence to pursue one subject and not put it
down" WAS MAKING EVERY ONES LIFE HELL ON EARTH.
I can honestly say that in the 6 long years I have NOT
been a listowner, I have never once banned anyone for
doggedly pursuing one particular subject, and so I find
it quite curious that CFTF would do so EXCEPT ROBERT IS
QUITE A GUY FOR BEING SO UNREASONABLE!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: [Maury_and_Baty] Re: Worth repeating (about this list's owner)!
--- Tamara wrote:
> Hmmmmm .... you may not be aware of this, but commandeering
> and altering another's words to produce an entirely
> different meaning is civilly actionable both in the US and
> in the UK. While there may be others here who would not mind
> your having done this to their messages, I am quite
> displeased that you have done so with mine. I am therefore
> asking you nicely to please not do that again.
You did ask nicely if you ignore the veiled threat of legal
I would like more information about the 'civilly actionable'
aspect of this complaint. Do you contend that Keith
attributed words to you that you did not write? Do you
object that the 'style' of his message was similar to yours?
Which words do you claim Keith commandeered and how did he
commandeer them? The sentiments expressed in the message
appear to be entirely Keith's. Just because you claim to be
able to bring legal suit in the matter does not establish
any moral ownership to the message that Keith wrote:
I noticed no impropriety in Keith's message and would
appreciate explanation. Similar style imitation has often
occurred in the past on this list. If there is moral or
legal reason such should not occur in the future, please
make your case using Keith's message as an instructive
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- Dear Tamara,
Humility is great and we both share this wonderfull
virtue, I understand fully why my great post was not
I hope Rob can learn from us so he too can humble
Have a great day, Keith
No, I didn't forget to mention it, Keith. I just
decided not to. *grin*
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