The Ides of March & that "God Discussion" Radio Program!
March 8, 2013
Who Would Jesus Sue?
A look at church, state and abuse (Friday, March 15, 2013)
A common mantra we hear from religious right activists
in America is that "Christianity is under attack" and
that secularists are trying to wipe religion out of the
Is this remotely true? Is the issue exaggerated?
What role does the church have in government, if any?
The First Amendment: Church and State.
Joining us the first hour of the Freethought Fridays
and Variety Show is popular YouTube commentator Prof.
With his wonderful sense of humor, Mitch describes
himself as "a national treasure: married, atheist,
teacher, college administrator, liberal, gay, white
guy, aspiring to be remembered as, among other things,
dashing, witty, well connected, and open to earthly
Prof Mitch is a lawyer by training.
He has worked for the American Civil Liberties Union
and as a community organizer. Currently, he is an
administrator at a major New York university where
he also teaches American constitutional law, criminal
law, and oral advocacy.
Religious Privilege in America.
Also joining us for the discussion is Robert Baty,
who started a petition to the White House asking
that the Obama administration lead an effort to get
Congress to repeal the parsonage income tax exemption
enjoyed by religious ministers.
We'll learn more about IRC 107 and how religious
leaders enjoy special privileges in the United States,
despite the alleged separation of church and state.
Who Would Jesus Sue?
A look at religious abuse and the First Amendment.
In our second hour, Alex Grenier will be joining us
to share a disturbing and explosive story about abuse
and a religiously-motivated lawsuit that has affected
him personally and has outraged religious and nontheists
throughout the country who started the
Alex GrenierAlex is the owner of CalvaryChapelAbuse.com,
a blog dedicated to dealing with abuse and corruption in
the Calvary Chapel System of Churches that claims 1,500
to 2,000 churches nationwide and all over the world.
He is a blogger activist who has persistently lobbied the
church and government to deal with child abuse and corruption
in churches. Since its inception in July of 2010, his website
has had over 3 million hits and participation from all over
The 41-year-old Grenier is the step-son of Calvary Chapel
Visalia pastor, Bob Grenier, who is still actively endorsed
by the CC System of Churches despite child abuse and
corruption allegations. The story has been an ongoing
controversy that has been covered by Newsweek/Daily Beast,
Daily Kos, OC Weekly, The Fresno Bee and many leading
Christian blogs including The Wartburg Watch, Phoenix
Preacher, Spiritual Sounding Board and a host of others.
Grenier and ex-CC Visalia member Tim Taylor are currently
being sued by Bob and Gayle Grenier (Alex's mother) for
speaking out publicly about the allegations of abuse and
The key issues in this ongoing controversy include dealing
with child abuse, spiritual abuse and corruption in the
church by pastors and police chaplains who enjoy positions
of trust within churches and law enforcement, as well as
protecting the First Amendment right to speak out about
the issues publicly.
The church and government have been petitioned persistently
in these matters and have not acted. Grenier continues to
speak out despite the attempts to silence him.
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