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Re: Real-world example of time dilation in a gravitational well

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  • rlbaty50
    ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maury_and_Baty/message/29348 ... I think Humphreys paper was published the Journal of Creation. I found this on that:
    Message 1 of 96 , Nov 3, 2012
      --- In Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com,
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maury_and_Baty/message/29348
      "Todd Greene" <greeneto@...> wrote, in part:

      > By the way, Humphreys' article was never published
      > in a "peer-reviewed journal" of a professional
      > science publication.

      I think Humphreys' paper was published the Journal of Creation.

      I found this on that:

      http://www.oldearth.org/rebuttal/magazines/TJ/tj.htm

      > Creation Science Rebuttals
      > Technical Journal ("TJ") and Journal of Creation
      >
      > Answers in Genesis produced a technical journal
      > for the general public. This journal, called
      > Technical Journal, or TJ, is claimed to be
      > "peer-reviewed."
      >
      > However, the peers doing the reviewing are also
      > young earth creationists.
      >
      > Therefore, in the normal understanding of what
      > peer-review means, this journal fails to meet
      > the standards.
      >
      > Many Technical Journal articles are also posted
      > on the web. On this page you can access our
      > rebuttals for the contents of this magazine.
      >
      > With the defection of the United States branch
      > of Answers in Genesis, Answers in Genesis -
      > Australia has been renamed Creation Ministries
      > International.
      >
      > The Australian branch was the publisher of TJ.
      >
      > As of 2006, this journal has been renamed
      > Journal of Creation.

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    • Ray Ausban
      Amazing! Thanks Todd ________________________________ From: Todd Greene To: Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 5,
      Message 96 of 96 , Dec 5, 2012
        Amazing! Thanks Todd

        From: Todd Greene <greeneto@...>
        To: Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:33 AM
        Subject: [M & B] Re: Real-world example of time dilation in a gravitational well
         
        Biggest Black Hole Blast Discovered: Most Powerful Quasar Outflow Ever Found
        (Science Daily, 11/26/2012)
        http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121128093712.htm

        Excerpt:

        Astronomers using ESO's Very Large Telescope (VLT) have discovered a quasar with the most energetic outflow ever seen, at least five times more powerful than any that have been observed to date. Quasars are extremely bright galactic centres powered by supermassive black holes. Many blast huge amounts of material out into their host galaxies, and these outflows play a key role in the evolution of galaxies.

        --- In mailto:Maury_and_Baty%40yahoogroups.com, Ray Ausban <rayausban@...> wrote:
        >
        > Thanks Pi!
        >
        >
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: "PIASAN@..." <PIASAN@...>
        > To: mailto:Maury_and_Baty%40yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:41 AM
        > Subject: Re: [M & B] Re: Real-world example of time dilation in a gravitational well
        >
        >
        >  
        >
        > From: Ray Ausban
        > And how far reaching is the event horizon?
        >  
        >  
        > Pi:
        > Depends on the mass of the object.  The equation for calculating gravitational time dilation can be found at:
        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation
        >  
        > In order to determine the distance to the event horizon, you would need to solve the equation for "r"
        >  
        >  
        >  
        >  
        > Ray:
        > Can it reach another galaxy?
        >  
        > Pi:
        > You would probably need most of the mass of the universe inside the event horizon to do that.  If you had the entire mass of the Milky Way, the event horizon would only be something like 0.5 light years distant. (IIRC)
        >  
        >  
        >  
        > Ray:
        > The gravity of such a black hole must be enormous. Do other galaxies orbit such black holes?
        >  
        > Pi:
        > It appears that most, if not all, large galaxies have supermassive black holes at their center.
        >  
        >  
        >  
        >

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