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Re: [M & B] Re: Ken Ham today on the flood and the age of stuff!

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  • Charles Weston
    ...   ...   walking according to their own lusts,  Clearly, the scoffers are Ken Ham and his ilk who continue to deny the science.  (If they can take Peter
    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 14 3:42 PM
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      > 2 Peter 3 predicts that, just as there were scoffers during Noah's time, 
       
      > "scoffers will come in the last days, 
       >walking according to their own lusts, 
      Clearly, the scoffers are Ken Ham and his ilk who continue to deny the science.  (If they can take Peter out of context, so can I!)
      Charles

      --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Todd Greene <greeneto@...> wrote:

      From: Todd Greene <greeneto@...>
      Subject: [M & B] Re: Ken Ham today on the flood and the age of stuff!
      To: Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 9:56 AM
















       









      "The Flood would have produced the kind of complex geological record of sedimentary rock layers and fossils that we see all over the earth."



      Which, of course, is completely wrong precisely because a worldwide flood around 4,300 years ago would not have produced the kind of complex geological record of sedimentary rock layers and fossils that we see all over the earth.



      A worldwide flood around 4,300 years ago would have produced in the geological record the remains of a worldwide flood. In regard to fossils, 4,300 years isn't even long enough to produce the complete mineralization of the organic remains. Additionally, in regard to history, we wouldn't have the continuous span of cultures, such as the Chinese, the Egyptians, Mesopotamian cultures, and so on. Instead, in the archaeological record we would see cultures that all ceased to exist at exactly the same time, and then we would see a SINGLE culture after the flood with all subsequent cultures having evolved from that, but, of course, we don't see anything of the sort.



      This is just another example of the delusional nature of young earth creationist rhetoric. Say anything they feel like saying, regardless of the facts, deliberately ignoring reality, telling any lie needed to tell to prop up the false religious dogma. This is The Young Earth Creationist Way. And the more I'm seeing in other areas, it would probably be more appropriate for me to be stating this as, this is The Fundamentalist Christian Way.



      - Todd Greene



      P.S.: And don't think I'm not noticing the entirely circular argument Mortenson and Ham use at the end. 'This is true, because the Bible says so. We *really* know this is true, because the apostle Peter said so in the Bible.' LOL! It's amazing that grown men don't comprehend the utterly obvious irrationality of this argument. It really is incredible how grown men think this is a serious argument.



      --- In Maury_and_Baty, "Robert" <rlbaty@...> wrote:

      > ---------------Forwarded Article--------------------

      > Noah's Flood and Judgment

      > by Dr. Terry Mortenson and

      > Ken Ham

      > AiG–U.S.

      > June 13, 2011

      >

      > (excerpts)

      >

      > Understanding the biblical account of the Flood is crucial to our understanding of the age of the earth.

      >

      > Most of the evidence that secularists use for an old earth (i.e., the fossil record) is in reality evidence of a global Flood that occurred around 4,300 years ago.

      >

      > The Flood would have produced the kind of complex geological record of sedimentary rock layers and fossils that we see all over the earth.

      >

      > They cannot be the evidence of millions of years.

      >

      > 2 Peter 3 predicts that, just as there were scoffers during Noah's time,

      >

      > > "scoffers will come in the last days,

      > > walking according to their own lusts,

      > > and saying,

      > >

      > >> `Where is the promise of His coming?'

      > >

      > > … For this they willfully forget that

      > > … the world that then existed perished,

      > > being flooded with water. But the heavens

      > > and the earth which are now preserved by

      > > the same word, are reserved for fire until

      > > the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly

      > > men."

      >

      > Peter's statement almost 2,000 years ago accurately predicted the uniformitarian naturalistic worldview which now controls virtually all of modern science, which is why most scientists believe in evolution and millions of years.



























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