Re: New Video?
I think we've got another good object lesson here regarding the difference between you and Jerry McDonald.
Todd, you quote Jerry as saying:
> "It appears that my posting ofThen you write:
> the dates that I can be in Ft.
> Collins, CO did not make it to
> the Maury and Baty list."
> I can tell you for a fact from myJerry's post was in pending status and I think you probably just didn't review all the current posts before making your comments.
> end that there was no such post
> to this group.
Jerry does have a post which mentions his July expectations which can be found at:
My apologies if there was some confusion about Jerry's posts being slowed up in posting because of his "moderated" status.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how differently you handle this minor problem and how Jerry McDonald has failed to handle his "weightier" problems.
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- Jerry's reference to debate dates can also be found in his bogus
debate agreement proposal post at:
--- In Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Baty" <rlbaty@...>
>difference between you and Jerry McDonald.
> I think we've got another good object lesson here regarding the
>didn't review all the current posts before making your comments.
> Todd, you quote Jerry as saying:
> > "It appears that my posting of
> > the dates that I can be in Ft.
> > Collins, CO did not make it to
> > the Maury and Baty list."
> Then you write:
> > I can tell you for a fact from my
> > end that there was no such post
> > to this group.
> Jerry's post was in pending status and I think you probably just
>can be found at:
> Jerry does have a post which mentions his July expectations which
>slowed up in posting because of his "moderated" status.
> My apologies if there was some confusion about Jerry's posts being
>handle this minor problem and how Jerry McDonald has failed to handle
> In any case, it will be interesting to see how differently you
his "weightier" problems.
> Robert Baty
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- Due to technical limitations, I was only able to catch a few seconds
of Jerry's latest video misrepresentations.
Here's what caught my attention in just the few seconds I was able to
listen to so far:
Jerry McDonald stated he had been posting his messages on a number of
Now, if he were open and honest with us, he would give us a list of
just where he is posting all those messages.
If he were open and honest with us?
My lawyer will need such information and I wouldn't want to have to
force it out of him!
- Now that I think about it, there was one other thing I did happen to
hear on Jerry's latest video that caught my ear and has application to
Jerry opined that his messages not being posted here may have
something to do with "our" fear, or some such thing.
In actuality, all of Jerry's posts have been now posted; being only
delayed because of his "moderated" status.
Now, compare Jerry's perspective on that and what he has done with his
On his ChallengeII list, Jerry has put me in "moderated" status and
several of my posts of days gone by have not been posted. I guess,
again using Matthew 7:1,2 and James 3:1, Jerry McDonald is the one
Additionally, last I checked, Jerry McDonald no longer archives the
messages of his list. All the archives just went "poof". Is Jerry
McDonald afraid to archive the messages to his list; or is it just a
case of further mismanagement?
- --- In Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com, "Todd S. Greene"
> Jerry, frankly, you've used up all your rope with me,
> and I'm going to cut short any of your lies I see you
> using as I see them, with no patience whatsoever.
I did see Jerry McDonald's pending message and made a
note of it. But I feel the same as you do -- McDonald
has used up all his rope with me. I figured I would
just mention that a message was pending and let Robert
deal with it as he saw fit, since I was aware that
Robert's messages were not getting posted to McDonald's
I didn't realize it would take until this morning before
Robert checked back in, but even if I had I would have
still done the same thing. "So McDonald has a message
pending," says I. "Big deal!" says I.
I "promoted" Robert to moderator so he could take care
of McDonald himself through these negotiations, since I
have been out and about away from the computer a lot for
the past several days and since McDonald didn't want any
interaction here with anyone but Robert.
As Robert says, all of McDonald's messages have now been
posted and McDonald's worries do not worry me at all. I
slept just fine last night while McDonald's message
fretted away in the pending zone.
It's easy for me to understand why you would assume that
McDonald was just lying, yet again.
> What I have observed about you, Jerry, over the lastIndeed. I have observed the same thing. A lot of the
> several months, is that you are ever so quick to make
> accusations based on ill-informed (I don't even think
> "informed" belongs here!) knee-jerk reactions, and then
> ever so slow (in fact, most of the time you never do it)
> to correct your errors.
time he just makes stuff up as it suits him, and then
when he gets caught in his lie he has all sorts of
excuses but *he doesn't correct his lies*. I learned
several months ago to just go ahead and assume that
McDonald was lying and you'll be right more often than
not. Even simple statements that are technically true
take on deceitful intent when uttered by McDonald.
> Oh, by the way, the only reason that any man would beAnd what is even funnier is that he's willing to
> "shaking in his boots" because another man considers
> this to be a serious argument
> | If Robert Baty agreed to moderate for Todd Greene in
> | the McDonald-Greene debate on the antiquity of the
> | universe (in which Greene is an atheist and Jerry
> | McDonald is a Christian), then Robert Baty is an
> | atheist.
> is because he is laughing his butt off!
drive across Kansas in July to debate it!
I'm telling you, the guy ain't all there.
Worldwide Church of Latitudinarianism
> --- In Maury_and_Baty, Jerry McDonald wrote (post #14594):
> > It appears that my posting of the dates that I can be in
> > Ft. Collins, CO did not make it to the Maury and Baty
> > list. Maybe Robert doesn't want his readers to know that
> > I have set the date. He came out mocking me yesterday
> > saying that I said I was going to be there some time this
> > summer, and while I did say that I also said that it
> > would be some time in July. Since I have set the dates for
> > this I see nothing on the baty list to indicate that they
> > have been set. That's all right Robert, we know that you
> > are crawled up in a hole shaking in your boots. Come on,
> > I'll be easy on ya--NOT! Since he has refused to publish
> > this very public information on his very public list I
> > guess I'll just have to make another very public video.
> > In Christ Jesus
> > Jerry D. McDonald