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Indeed, the debate challenge is still on the table! (UPDATED)

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  • Robert Baty
    All David P. Brown needs to do is not come back to the table , but come to the table, sign the propositions taken from his own arguments for an oral or
    Message 1 of 1 , Sep 2 5:40 AM
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      All David P. Brown needs to do is not "come back to the table", but come to the table, sign the propositions taken from his own arguments for an oral or written debate, endorsing his own arguments as the foundation for the discussion for the record, and then show up "to get his dumplings scorched in person". "Maybe that will wake him and his buddyhood from their intellectual slumber."

      ?Yet, David P. Brown and/or his official representative has yet to appear to even begin the formal, in writing, for the record, good faith negotiations as to the details.

      From the beginning, the fundamental point of contention has been whether or not the "young-earth, creation-science" real world claim that nothing is more than a few thousand years old is subject to falsification with reference to the real world evidence and whether or not, in fact, the real world evidence falsifies that claim.

      There are a number of ways in which that issue may be dealt with "head on".

      To date, neither David P. Brown or any in of his circle have "come out" to take up the proposed formal discussion with serious committment.

      David P. Brown wants to talk about the existence of God.

      We have accommodated his demand and formulated valid arguments that do just that in the context of dealing with the fundamental real world claim commonly associated with the "young-earth, creation-science" movement.

      Following are those arguments, which have not been disputed as to the proposal that they do actually, validly reflect the position David P. Brown and at least some in his circle have effectively proposed in their recent writings:

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      David P. Brown's Argument #1

      Major Premise:

      > If some thing really is more
      > than a few thousand years
      > old, then the God that
      > David P. Brown believes in,
      > as represented in the Bible,
      > does not exist.

      Minor Premise:

      > Some thing really
      > is more than a few
      > thousand years old.

      Conclusion:

      > Therefore, the God David
      > P. Brown believes in, as
      > represented in the Bible,
      > does not exist.

      - - - - - - - - - -

      David P. Brown's Argument #2

      Major Premise:

      > If some thing really is more
      > than a few thousand years
      > old, then the God David P.
      > Brown believes in, as
      > represented in the Bible,
      > does not exist.

      Minor Premise:

      > The God David P. Brown
      > believes in, as represented
      > in the Bible, does exist.

      Conclusion:

      > Therefore, nothing is
      > more than a few
      > thousand years old.

      - - - - - - - - - -

      In the final analysis, the actual debate logistics will be determined by David P. Brown and Todd S. Greene or their official representatives.

      I am not an official representative of either person.

      However, it appears to me that Todd S. Greene has already indicated a willingness to accept the above arguments as a foundation for the proposed debate between himself and David P. Brown.

      The arguments satisfy David P. Brown's desire to discuss the existence of God, and Todd's desire to discuss whether or not anything is more than a few thousand years old.

      As a result, it is my opinion that David P. Brown or his official representative needs to "come out", accept the above arguments, accept the minor premises of each argument as the propositions to be variously affirmed and denied in the proposed discussion, and then work in good faith, on the record, to deal with the necessary logistics of the proposed debate.

      IS DAVID P. BROWN REALLY UP TO A REASONABLE CHALLENGE?

      Sincerely,
      Robert Baty




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