--- In Maury_and_Baty@yahoogroups.com
"Robert Baty" <rlbaty@...> wrote (in parts):
> Daniel Denham did it again!
> He wouldn't "come out" and "let us reason TOGETHER",
> and he wouldn't shut up with his cowardly lies about
> me that he spews forth...
> Here's Daniel Denham's latest cowardly false report
> about me:
> Message #7356
> From: Daniel Denham
> To: ContendingFTF list
> Date: July 1, 2007
> Robert Baty (is) no better off.
> Baty believe that he is the intellectual equal
> or superior to Matthew Fontaine Maury, and pretends
> to carry on conversations with the great scientist.
> Daniel Denham
> (Robert's) further comments:
> It is quite disappointing to consider that a man
> with free-will to do good or to do evil will
> actually stoop to the level of evil exhibited in
> the above message...
In the same message, Denham wrote:
> Then there's Rick who has trumpeted loudly the values
> and virtues of "cat morality" and who has intimated
> that some people are more human than others.
I used the idea of "cat morality" to show that the
young-earth creationist Daniel Denham, who is supposedly
a preacher, doesn't even know himself what the Bible
plainly says right there in the Creation account about
the traits that were given to Man as God created him
and the traits that Man "acquired" when he disobeyed God.
Daniel Denham, in that discussion, displayed a complete
ignorance of the meaning of Scripture and a total lack
of respect for God's Creation itself -- nay, more than
simple lack of respect but actual contempt for this
marvelous work that the Lord has made.
I pointed out that young-earthers are notoriously
ignorant when it comes to human ecology and the way
God's Creation works and our intended role within it.
And how could they *not* be ignorant of these things?
Their very dogma dictates an absolute denial of everything
we have learned about the way the environment and its
ecosystems function. In their fantasy-world, the entire
time-span of Man-on-Earth and even of the Universe
itself doesn't even reach back, in the real world, to
the end of the last ice age -- the end of the Pleistocene --
some 10 - 12 thousand years ago!
Daniel Denham, when confronted with the *actual*
"implications" of his own argument, rather than the
made-up implications from his misrepresentation of my
argument, refused to answer questions and RAN AWAY
from the discussion! So his criticism of "cat morality"
is without merit; indeed, the most sadistic, meanest,
murderin'est, sneakin'est road-ditch tomcat is more
faithful to its God-given "morality" than Daniel Denham
As to the second part of Denham's statement, that I have
"intimated" that "some humans are more human than others",
well, that's just one more flat-out lie by the free-willing
Daniel Denham, and he knows he is lying when he says it.
Here is the message that shows Daniel Denham would have
been better served to just keep his mouth shut about me
and my "cat morality" and my "intimations" of what makes
a human a "human":
Worldwide Church of Latitudinarianism
P.S. You can look through the messages in the thread
of which the above link is a concluding part and read
about all sorts of problems Daniel Denham has with
"morality" and "humanity", and his personal contempt for
God's Creation. Some of the messages are pretty long,
much of what is written is repetitive (Daniel Denham has
a bad habit or misrepresenting what you say, even if you
tell him a dozen times that isn't what you are saying) but,
overall, these messages will show that Daniel Denham is
not only dishonest and irrational, but blindingly wrong
about the "nature" of "human" existence and is freely
willing to attempt any underhanded rhetorical trickery
to prove it. He just wasn't quite as slick as he
thought he was.