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  • Bob
    Ben Fowke and I bough the From Hal.Hamlin Cars, England ... Ben Fowke and I bough the From Hal.Hamlin Cars, England From: David&Carol
    Message 1 of 14 , Sep 14, 2013
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      Ben Fowke and I bough the From Hal.Hamlin Cars, England


      From: David&Carol <scshmoo@...>
      To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
      Cc: Bob Kahmer <bobk4@...>
      Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:40 PM
      Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



      Dear Bob,

      Do you remember who or where your Lotus X came from or what its history was prior to your ownership?

      Many thanks.

      David Seielstad

      Kauai
      On 14 Sep 2013, at 04:24, Bob wrote:



      The Square tubing roll bar, is dead give away that was my Lotus (RCR 520) We made that roll bar!
      Bob Kahmer


      From: Michael Krueger <pushrodracer@...>
      To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:38 PM
      Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



      Bristol Lotus Mk10 ,I used to own this car or another like it  in the sixties for a couple of years.I traded it to Warren Shamlien for a Lotus 18. It is a beautiful restoration .Tyhe car I owned was black with a square tubing single rollbar hoop .Although I never raced it but occasionally drove it through the Virginia country side in Clarke county it was really fast with fantastic acelleration .One car I wished to have never traded.  A thrill to see these pictures . Mike Krueger

      From: Rick Mandelson <rollingthunder78@...>
      To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:03 PM
      Subject: RE: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



      Alan was the tennis pro who went to Florida and was the driver of the Lotus.
       
      Sheldon hung around Baltimore for quite some time before moving to New York.
      Rick
       
       
       
      From: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Fleming
      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:34 PM
      To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
       
       
      Bob: around that time, there were 3 brothers from Balto. named Fred, Alan, and Sheldon Cohen. One of them, Alan, (I think) raced a Lotus Bristol at Marlboro, perhaps other tracks. Did you know any of them?
      Did you sell your car to Alan at some point, then buy it back later?
       
      Thanks, Ray Fleming
       
      Also: does anyone in the Marlboro group know what happened to the Cohen brothers? I know that Fred went to NY to work for a magazine (Look or Collier's?), and I think that Sheldon was a real good tennis player who was thinking of moving to Florida to play/coach tennis. All three were great guys..very smart, personable, funny).
      From: Bob <bobk4@...>
      To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:22 PM
      Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
       
      During 1959-60 I owned and raced a 1957 2 Liter Lotus Bristol  Mk10. Just to name a few places like Marlboro, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland. Click on the link below and you will see the beautiful restoration by the Barber Museum. Thank you John Viviani!!
      Bob Kahmer
       
      ----- Forwarded Message -----
      From: Bob <bobk4@...>
      To: John Viviani <JViviani@...> 
      Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:58 AM
      Subject: Re: Finally some pictures
      John,LotusThanks for the great pictures. Smal theeally anxious to get down there, to see the car, the museum and meet every one. I have not seen Ben Fowke since the days  we  raced the Lotus.Bob
       
       
      From: John Viviani <JViviani@...>
      To: "bobk4@..." <bobk4@...> 
      Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:49 PM
      Subject: Finally some pictures
      Bob,
       
      They brought me a new (old) computer today so I have your pictures! The funny little garage is Smallies circa 2013.
       
       
      Hope these bring back some memories!
       
      John
       
      PS in the pic of the three guys with the car. White Shirt is my boss lee Clark, I am in the red shirt, the chap in the middle is Bob Dance. He started with Lotus about the time you bought your car (1958) he went on to become Jimmy Clark’s Chief Mechanic, Mario’s Chief Mechanic and was with Team Lotus until 1994.















    • David&Carol
      Dear Bob, Many thanks. Did Ben ever race the car? Best wishes, David ... Dear Bob, Many thanks. Did Ben ever race the car? Best wishes, David On 14 Sep 2013,
      Message 2 of 14 , Sep 14, 2013
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        Dear Bob,

        Many thanks.

        Did Ben ever race the car?

        Best wishes,

        David
        On 14 Sep 2013, at 09:45, Bob wrote:



        Ben Fowke and I bough the From Hal.Hamlin Cars, England


        From: David&Carol <scshmoo@...>
        To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com 
        Cc: Bob Kahmer <bobk4@...> 
        Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:40 PM
        Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



        Dear Bob,

        Do you remember who or where your Lotus X came from or what its history was prior to your ownership?

        Many thanks.

        David Seielstad

        Kauai
        On 14 Sep 2013, at 04:24, Bob wrote:



        The Square tubing roll bar, is dead give away that was my Lotus (RCR 520) We made that roll bar!
        Bob Kahmer


        From: Michael Krueger <pushrodracer@...>
        To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
        Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:38 PM
        Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



        Bristol Lotus Mk10 ,I used to own this car or another like it  in the sixties for a couple of years.I traded it to Warren Shamlien for a Lotus 18. It is a beautiful restoration .Tyhe car I owned was black with a square tubing single rollbar hoop .Although I never raced it but occasionally drove it through the Virginia country side in Clarke county it was really fast with fantastic acelleration .One car I wished to have never traded.  A thrill to see these pictures . Mike Krueger

        From: Rick Mandelson <rollingthunder78@...>
        To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com 
        Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:03 PM
        Subject: RE: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



        Alan was the tennis pro who went to Florida and was the driver of the Lotus.
         
        Sheldon hung around Baltimore for quite some time before moving to New York.
        Rick
         
         
         
        From: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Fleming
        Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:34 PM
        To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
         
         
        Bob: around that time, there were 3 brothers from Balto. named Fred, Alan, and Sheldon Cohen. One of them, Alan, (I think) raced a Lotus Bristol at Marlboro, perhaps other tracks. Did you know any of them?
        Did you sell your car to Alan at some point, then buy it back later?
         
        Thanks, Ray Fleming
         
        Also: does anyone in the Marlboro group know what happened to the Cohen brothers? I know that Fred went to NY to work for a magazine (Look or Collier's?), and I think that Sheldon was a real good tennis player who was thinking of moving to Florida to play/coach tennis. All three were great guys..very smart, personable, funny).
        From: Bob <bobk4@...>
        To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
        Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:22 PM
        Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
         
        During 1959-60 I owned and raced a 1957 2 Liter Lotus Bristol  Mk10. Just to name a few places like Marlboro, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland. Click on the link below and you will see the beautiful restoration by the Barber Museum. Thank you John Viviani!!
        Bob Kahmer
         
        ----- Forwarded Message -----
        From: Bob <bobk4@...>
        To: John Viviani <JViviani@...> 
        Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:58 AM
        Subject: Re: Finally some pictures
        John,LotusThanks for the great pictures. Smal theeally anxious to get down there, to see the car, the museum and meet every one. I have not seen Ben Fowke since the days  we  raced the Lotus.Bob
         
         
        From: John Viviani <JViviani@...>
        To: "bobk4@..." <bobk4@...> 
        Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:49 PM
        Subject: Finally some pictures
        Bob,
         
        They brought me a new (old) computer today so I have your pictures! The funny little garage is Smallies circa 2013.
         
         
        Hope these bring back some memories!
         
        John
         
        PS in the pic of the three guys with the car. White Shirt is my boss lee Clark, I am in the red shirt, the chap in the middle is Bob Dance. He started with Lotus about the time you bought your car (1958) he went on to become Jimmy Clark’s Chief Mechanic, Mario’s Chief Mechanic and was with Team Lotus until 1994.


















      • Bob
        Ben drove the lotus one time at Cumberland..did not like it so I bough him out ... Ben drove the lotus one time at Cumberland..did not like it so I bough him
        Message 3 of 14 , Sep 14, 2013
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          Ben drove the lotus one time at Cumberland..did not like it so I bough him out



          From: David&Carol <scshmoo@...>
          To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:53 PM
          Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



          Dear Bob,

          Many thanks.

          Did Ben ever race the car?

          Best wishes,

          David
          On 14 Sep 2013, at 09:45, Bob wrote:



          Ben Fowke and I bough the From Hal.Hamlin Cars, England


          From: David&Carol <scshmoo@...>
          To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com 
          Cc: Bob Kahmer <bobk4@...> 
          Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:40 PM
          Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



          Dear Bob,

          Do you remember who or where your Lotus X came from or what its history was prior to your ownership?

          Many thanks.

          David Seielstad

          Kauai
          On 14 Sep 2013, at 04:24, Bob wrote:



          The Square tubing roll bar, is dead give away that was my Lotus (RCR 520) We made that roll bar!
          Bob Kahmer


          From: Michael Krueger <pushrodracer@...>
          To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
          Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:38 PM
          Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



          Bristol Lotus Mk10 ,I used to own this car or another like it  in the sixties for a couple of years.I traded it to Warren Shamlien for a Lotus 18. It is a beautiful restoration .Tyhe car I owned was black with a square tubing single rollbar hoop .Although I never raced it but occasionally drove it through the Virginia country side in Clarke county it was really fast with fantastic acelleration .One car I wished to have never traded.  A thrill to see these pictures . Mike Krueger

          From: Rick Mandelson <rollingthunder78@...>
          To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com 
          Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:03 PM
          Subject: RE: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



          Alan was the tennis pro who went to Florida and was the driver of the Lotus.
           
          Sheldon hung around Baltimore for quite some time before moving to New York.
          Rick
           
           
           
          From: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Fleming
          Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:34 PM
          To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
           
           
          Bob: around that time, there were 3 brothers from Balto. named Fred, Alan, and Sheldon Cohen. One of them, Alan, (I think) raced a Lotus Bristol at Marlboro, perhaps other tracks. Did you know any of them?
          Did you sell your car to Alan at some point, then buy it back later?
           
          Thanks, Ray Fleming
           
          Also: does anyone in the Marlboro group know what happened to the Cohen brothers? I know that Fred went to NY to work for a magazine (Look or Collier's?), and I think that Sheldon was a real good tennis player who was thinking of moving to Florida to play/coach tennis. All three were great guys..very smart, personable, funny).
          From: Bob <bobk4@...>
          To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
          Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:22 PM
          Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
           
          During 1959-60 I owned and raced a 1957 2 Liter Lotus Bristol  Mk10. Just to name a few places like Marlboro, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, Vineland. Click on the link below and you will see the beautiful restoration by the Barber Museum. Thank you John Viviani!!
          Bob Kahmer
           
          ----- Forwarded Message -----
          From: Bob <bobk4@...>
          To: John Viviani <JViviani@...> 
          Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:58 AM
          Subject: Re: Finally some pictures
          John,LotusThanks for the great pictures. Smal theeally anxious to get down there, to see the car, the museum and meet every one. I have not seen Ben Fowke since the days  we  raced the Lotus.Bob
           
           
          From: John Viviani <JViviani@...>
          To: "bobk4@..." <bobk4@...> 
          Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:49 PM
          Subject: Finally some pictures
          Bob,
           
          They brought me a new (old) computer today so I have your pictures! The funny little garage is Smallies circa 2013.
           
           
          Hope these bring back some memories!
           
          John
           
          PS in the pic of the three guys with the car. White Shirt is my boss lee Clark, I am in the red shirt, the chap in the middle is Bob Dance. He started with Lotus about the time you bought your car (1958) he went on to become Jimmy Clark’s Chief Mechanic, Mario’s Chief Mechanic and was with Team Lotus until 1994.






















        • Jock Ellis
          What were Lotus race cars fetching at that time? In 81 an ad in Autoweek stated that the owner of a 51-F roller wanted $3,500. Not long ago I saw one for sale
          Message 4 of 14 , Sep 14, 2013
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            What were Lotus race cars fetching at that time? In '81 an ad in Autoweek stated that the owner of a 51-F roller wanted $3,500. Not long ago I saw one for sale for $20,000. I don't remember if it had an engine, though. 

            Sent from my iPhone

            On Sep 14, 2013, at 3:53 PM, David&Carol <scshmoo@...> wrote:

             

            Dear Bob,


            Many thanks.

            Did Ben ever race the car?

            Best wishes,

            David
            On 14 Sep 2013, at 09:45, Bob wrote:



            Ben Fowke and I bough the From Hal.Hamlin Cars, England


            From: David&Carol <scshmoo@...>
            To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com 
            Cc: Bob Kahmer <bobk4@...> 
            Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:40 PM
            Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



            Dear Bob,

            Do you remember who or where your Lotus X came from or what its history was prior to your ownership?

            Many thanks.

            David Seielstad

            Kauai
            On 14 Sep 2013, at 04:24, Bob wrote:



            The Square tubing roll bar, is dead give away that was my Lotus (RCR 520) We made that roll bar!
            Bob Kahmer


            From: Michael Krueger <pushrodracer@...>
            To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
            Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:38 PM
            Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



            Bristol Lotus Mk10 ,I used to own this car or another like it  in the sixties for a couple of years.I traded it to Warren Shamlien for a Lotus 18. It is a beautiful restoration .Tyhe car I owned was black with a square tubing single rollbar hoop .Although I never raced it but occasionally drove it through the Virginia country side in Clarke county it was really fast with fantastic acelleration .One car I wished to have never traded.  A thrill to see these pictures . Mike Krueger

            From: Rick Mandelson <rollingthunder78@...>
            To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com 
            Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:03 PM
            Subject: RE: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored



            Alan was the tennis pro who went to Florida and was the driver of the Lotus.
             
            Sheldon hung around Baltimore for quite some time before moving to New York.
            Rick
             
             
             
            From: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Fleming
            Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:34 PM
            To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
             
             
            Bob: around that time, there were 3 brothers from Balto. named Fred, Alan, and Sheldon Cohen. One of them, Alan, (I think) raced a Lotus Bristol at Marlboro, perhaps other tracks. Did you know any of them?
            Did you sell your car to Alan at some point, then buy it back later?
             
            Thanks, Ray Fleming
             
            Also: does anyone in the Marlboro group know what happened to the Cohen brothers? I know that Fred went to NY to work for a magazine (Look or Collier's?), and I think that Sheldon was a real good tennis player who was thinking of moving to Florida to play/coach tennis. All three were great guys..very smart, personable, funny).
            From: Bob <bobk4@...>
            To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com> 
            Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:22 PM
            Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] My 1957 Lotus Restored
             
            During 1959-60 I owned and raced a 1957 2 Liter Lotus Bristol  Mk10. Just to name a
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