Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] The Hairpin
- I remember the track using fire hoses to get rid of non paying fans on the wood wall outside of the esses, I think there was a junk yard back there?Try that today..In a message dated 8/8/2012 4:29:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, slloydmarlboro@... writes:To all, and especially to Mike for proposing the idea THANK YOU! this hairpin discussion has been great! Perhaps we'll hear from more Marlboro veterans before too long. My brother suggested that we launch a program based on Mike's idea: Comments on the various parts of the track like we've been doing with the hairpin, but put them in order to "record a lap" at Marlboro. With some of the videos and stills we've got, combining the comments with visuals would make a helluva show, don't you think?
Steve Lloyd, Historian
Washington DC Region, SCCA
From: Mike <mikebooth1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] The HairpinDriving home today, I made a hard left turn to get through some traffic, and as I was pulling the steering wheel I was reminded of the Marlboro hairpin. For a moment it was like I was there again.
And I though it might be interesting to read some reminiscences from others about the turns at Marlboro--before we forget what they all were.
I'll tell you that I was always frustrated by that turn. I never felt like I ever got it just right. The only car I ever drove there was a Mini, and I was always fighting the fwd through the hairpin. Always felt like I was exiting the turn like a stone. For sure, my least favorite turn at Marlboro.
- Hi, My name is Les Robertson and i've been enjoying the many emails generated since I attended the 2010 reunion at Summit Point. This one is particularly warming about the "bean oil" fragrance form Castrol "R" used in the 60's. Also the reference to an Opel Cadet being passed at Marlboro. My Dad and I ran an imported car shop in the 60's thru the 80's on Staten Island and serviced many of those cracker boxes. I also campaigned a "Kelly V" during the 60's and raced Marlboro many times.
Thanks for all the great stories, and keep them coming! With best regards, Les Robertson
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:47:56 -0400
Subject: RE: [Marlboro_Raceway] The HairpinAloha David
I used to use Castrol "bean oil" in my Abarth-Zagato 750, not for the smell or to cover up a smell, but rather because it was supposed to be better than the traditional oil of the early '60s. I had to special order it from the auto parts store in Frederick.
I remember running my first enduro (a 4hr race at Summit Point). There was an Abarth-Zagato 750 in the race. About every 8 or 10 laps, I'd find myself coming up to lap him. I could always tell that he was somewhere around the next turn as I could recognize the smell of the Castrol. He was having a real battle with a Sprite and I'll never forget one of the most fun things ever was when they were going through "wagon turn" and I came up behind them. One went wide and the other stayed tight and I was able to thread the needle and go right between them as if they weren't even there.
At Charlotte in an IMSA GT race, Bruce Jennings and I did a similar thing going around the oval. Some guy was running an Opel Cadet ( they ran a lot of different size cars in those races.. GTO & GTU). Bruce and I were running door handle to door handle going around the banking. We came up behind the Cadet, looked over at each other and opened up and passed him like he wasn't there. Bruce stayed low and I went high. I remember thinking, "Wow! Just like a Petty and Pearson move" LOL
BTW, considering what gas is selling for on Oahu these days, you'd hope they were selling 200 octane fuel.
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:41:28 -1000
Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] The Hairpin
Aloha fuel watchers.We used to stand beside the track, as Sam did, and sniff the exhaust. It seems a fair number of cars were running methanol/nitro/benzol mixes and a lot of Castrol. The exhaust smelled like moth balls.I also heard about the trick of getting a Sunoco dealer to sell the straight 260 mixture. Could that have been the "unfair advantage" ?Good high lead content gasoline gives a nice white or light gray exhaust pipe. I always knew my engine was running right when the pipe turned light gray. The crap that passes for gasoline today produces a fluffy black soot that normally would mean an engine was running way too rich, but it is just the poor quality of gasoline with all the additives to "clean up" the exhaust.Best wishes,DavidKauaiOn 27 Aug 2012, at 15:32, Don Haines wrote: