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  • Andrew Sturgess
    Nov 1, 2010
      I agree that history is lost in the fog sometimes. My own recollections are hazy enough and I find myself "misremembering" at times. It's somewhat frustrating to me that at a time when I wish to remember more it seems that all the principals are deceased or suffering from "older I get the faster I was" syndrome. My own father's recollections, when he still had them, had to be taken with a grain or two of salt, more so as he aged. It was a sign of his approaching illness that we did not recognize and understand at the time. 
      I suppose most of the detail that we have come to expect in today's electronic world will never be recovered. Mimeographs and memories fade with time. It's great that there are so many people interested in preserving the past but too bad we got such a late start. I suppose it's too optimistic to think that any new website will be the holy grail but it was fun while it lasted.
      As for names, I remember that David Letterman wished one time that we would somehow just be able to reach a consensus on how to pronounce Ayrton Senna.

      From: Terry Oneil <pact.terryoneil@...>
      To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 3:06:22 AM
      Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] Found a web site full of information



      Hi Andrew,
      I'm certainly not defending the site in qustion (which I think found most of the information from another site but in a different format) but getting accurate information from events 40, 50 or 60 years ago is nigh impossible. I know as I have thumbed my way through countless entry lists and race reports. SCCA reports are not exempt in this respect. Unfortunately no two people seem to agree on some name spellings. My published books would support my theory.
      Kindest regards
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      Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:16 PM
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      That was my point. It truly is an ambitious site but maybe not our best source of information for SCCA history. I found one other driver that I knew that had his name misspelled. (Westerheider instead of Westerheide.)

      From: Don Haines <gtracer66@...>
      To: marlboro_raceway@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 5:57:41 PM
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      Oh my gosh!  I just looked up Rick and apparently he never entered a race.....  at least according to this site. I know it was the late '60s and '70s  but I didn't smoke that stuff and I'm sure I saw him in a race car somewhere.Smile with tongue

      To: marlboro_raceway@yahoogroups.com
      From: gtracer66@...
      Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:53:01 -0400
      Subject: RE: [Marlboro_Raceway] Found a web site full of information

      It is a pretty ambitious site. Due to the limited space on the site, there is just not enough room to document every race or race series. And going back as far as it does, there is a lot of information found there that may be otherwise hard to find.

       Unfortunately, the information on the site includes only results from bigger events. So in the case of some drivers, you may find rather dismal results in these events.  It leaves out results from races that may have made up the bulk of a driver's career.  So a driver who may have been a multiple SCCA National champion (just an example) and then entered a couple Trans-Am events or had a single shot at LeMans with less than stellar results, will only be shown looking like an average or below average driver. We all know drivers that focused their entire careers in classes like FV,FF,HP and so on.  They never wanted to or never had the chance to drive in the "big" events.  Racing at every level brings out truly fierce competition and outstanding performances.
        Our boy Rick was known as "Regional Rick" because he stuck mostly close to home.   Who knows what he might have done had somebody offered him a ride at LeMans in a car capable of winning. I mean you just never know. Winking smile    I'm just picking on Rick 'cuz he's a friend who I admired as a driver. But i'm sure we all know others like this.

      To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
      From: ajyes72@...
      Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 07:13:24 -0700
      Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] Found a web site full of information [1 Attachment]

      [Attachment(s) from Andrew Sturgess included below]
      I'm afraid some of this information may be suspect. For instance, the 66 Trans Am race at Green Valley, won by Dan Gurney by an eyelash
      over Parnelli Jones driving Mercury Cougars, shows Rex McDaniel as an entrant. Rex is Richard's son, Richard did drive in the race. I think Rex was driving a skateboard in those days. Richard is only credited with a drive at Sebring and his three SCCA Runoff championships seem to be neglected.
      Pretty ambitious site! I had high hopes when I started.
      Attachment picture "borrowed" from www.ferrarichat.com  Love the way the flagmen stood on the track. I'm sure the haybales provided adequate protection. 

      From: Ron W <OVLOV1@...>
      To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 9:28:04 AM
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      Surfing, looking for racing history and found the following site with a wealth of it. If you click on the race in the left column, you can see entrants and winners. It covers races from all over. Goes back to 1937! Enjoy!

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