Re: [Marbling] new
> 1. I use 60lb. drawing paper withI really like the Loew-Cornell rice paper. Sheets 12x18, sold in packages
>great results - what specifically do others
at AC Moore craft stores for about $10 (US). It is soft but strong and
also a clean lively white.
> 2. I dip my paper in alum - quick,It probably just relates to how much acid residue end up in the paper.
>easy and no complaints other than a little
>cockling but I'd like to know the advantages
>of sponging it on.
Probably more from dipping. Sponging on the other hand can be used for
aesthetic purposes -- when it isn't done evenly, you get extra textured
effects from the alum hit and miss. (Yes, you get to decide for yourself
whether this is an advantage or not.)
> 3. Rinsing fabric - how much of theBy "the first time" I'm guessing that you mean before heat setting the
>methyl cel is it really necessary to get off
>the first time. For me it seems to act as a
>stain if I don't get it all off, but that seems
>to take away some of the color intensity.
paints. I'd say get off as much as practical. The stain you refer to has
also happened to me with carrageenan. I think I impatiently tried to iron
the piece while it was still damp so that I could overmarble. The fabric
picked up yellowy brown marks. Most books say that most paints will set on
fabric with time, not just with heat. Maybe if you let the fabric sit
??some amount of time until the acrylic resins cured, then you could wash
out more methylcel residue without getting stains or losing color? this is
purely speculation, not knowing enough about acrylic paints on fabric to be
Have fun. And if you run into sources of wisdom on the issues of color
choice, please post!!
> > 2. I dip my paper in alum - quick,thanks for the helpful email.
> >easy and no complaints other than a little
> >cockling but I'd like to know the advantages of sponging it on.
> It probably just relates to how much acid residue end up in the paper.
> Probably more from dipping. Sponging on the other hand can be used for
clarification,please. Is residual acid good
Thanks for your time
- Some people say the alum residue is bad, others say it preserves paper.
True enough, a lot of 100 year old+ books, the covers have deteriorated the
paper text block has crumbled, and the marbled papers are intact.
You can, by the way, get away with 1/2 strength alum solution in most
cases. Sometimes less, depending on the paper if you are worried about it.
I always found that quickly sponging was way, way quicker and less messy
than dipping. You just need to get used to it.
- Dear the marbling group member,
If there is any place to buy from, I suggest you the natural earth colours
to use at marbling. It is the only way to get the best result on the
traditional Turkish Marbling.
If you want, I can give you some instructions about the places in Istanbul.
Good Luck on your working
>Subject: [Marbling] new
>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:40:55 -0000
>My elementery students have learned suminagashi and
>attempted to marbel paper using starch. This next year I would
>like to introduce the students to Turkish marbling. Please give
>any suggestions on products to use, best place to buy them, and
>the paper. Do I have to alum the paper before the students use
>Origin of Marbling? Turkey?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tevfik Alparslan BABAOGLU" <info@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 3:47 AM
Subject: [Marbling] Re: new
> If you want detailed information on Turkish marbling, I would suggest
> you to visit www.geleneksel-ebru.com where you can find all the
> details of what you are looking for. We don't have a habit of aluming
> the paper prior to marbling here in Turkey.
> Best regards
> --- In Marbling@y..., molliann@a... wrote:
> > My elementery students have learned suminagashi and
> > attempted to marbel paper using starch. This next year I would
> > like to introduce the students to Turkish marbling. Please give
> > any suggestions on products to use, best place to buy them, and
> > the paper. Do I have to alum the paper before the students use
> > it?
> > Origin of Marbling? Turkey?
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