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Re: Warming Carragheenan size / Incorporating wax

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  • pauliquann
    Okay then...I ll give it a try. I m a warm blooded person anyway; my hands are always on the warm side. Thanks again Warm Wishes, Paulette ... into ... squeeze
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      Okay then...I'll give it a try. I'm a warm blooded person anyway;
      my hands are always on the warm side.
      Thanks again
      Warm Wishes,
      Paulette
      --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, "hamburgerbuntpapier_de"
      <studio@...> wrote:
      >
      > For how long? Until the temperature is right. It works.
      >
      > Susanne Krause
      >
      > --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, "pauliquann" <pauliquann@> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > WOW! What a lot of info. So I should immerse my hands and arms
      into
      > > the size (for how long) and this will do the trick of warming?
      > > Is this for real?
      > > Thanks,
      > > PauliQuann
      > >
      > > --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, "hamburgerbuntpapier_de"
      > > <studio@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hi,
      > > >
      > > > sorry for the late reply, but there is only so much you can
      squeeze
      > > into a day.
      > > >
      > > > Warming carragheenan size:
      > > > Here is Ole Lundberg's recipe: just put your hands and arms in
      and
      > > wait. Worked perfectly,
      > > > and strangely enough there were no problems with hairs etc.
      > > afterwards. We just worked
      > > > very carefully as to cleaning the surface rather once more than
      one
      > > time less.
      > > >
      > > > Incorporating wax:
      > > > The very fact that wax is hydrophobe is what we need. If you
      can
      > > persuade the wax to
      > > > separate into tiny balls, you're there.
      > > > With paste papers it is no problem at all, I just add the wax
      with
      > > the boiling water. The
      > > > ratio of max. 1% is very small. The wax doesn't solve without a
      > > trace, it just separates from
      > > > a lump of balls clinging together into single balls clinging to
      > > molecules of starch. After
      > > > drying, you give
      > > > the sheets a firm (but careful) rubbing with a woolen cloth,
      > > thereby 'flattening' the tiny
      > > > balls easily and turning them into a minuscule film that is
      > > protection as well as the base
      > > > for a slight glazing. If the ratio is too high, the paper's
      surface
      > > stays sticky in the way bees
      > > > way is sticky. Naturally. So if you need a highly glazed and
      hard
      > > surface and want to do it
      > > > with wax, you cannot use pure bees wax. An addition of carnauba
      is
      > > a good idea.
      > > >
      > > > For marbling, the wax needs to be solved before being
      incorporated
      > > into the paints. What
      > > > I'd try if I were a marbler is solving it in turpentine or
      boiling
      > > water and adding it to the
      > > > mass while the pigment mill is rotating. Or, another one of Ole
      > > Lundberg's, try malty syrup
      > > > instead, at a tiny ratio. Or add Blanc Fixe, that is ground
      felspar
      > > (read, I believe, in
      > > > Weichelt).
      > > >
      > > > For title papers (they need to be shiny in most cases), I use a
      > > mixture I buy from a
      > > > furniture restorer. It comprises of bees wax and carnauba,
      solved
      > > in pure real turpentine
      > > > oil. Comes in tins like old fashioned shoe polish, makes the
      life
      > > ot the polisher
      > > > considerably easier and is very smelly and not particularly
      good
      > > for the respratory organs;
      > > > to be used only in a well aired room or with suitable
      protection,
      > > otherwise it can make you
      > > > 'drunk' or headachy etc. Rubbed on in a very thin layer with a
      firm
      > > ball made of non-pilling
      > > > cloth such as linen or a linen-cotton mix (weaved, not
      knitted), it
      > > can later be polished to
      > > > just the required
      > > > sheen. I have never accepted orders of full size sheets
      polished in
      > > that way, but I know
      > > > peole who do.
      > > >
      > > > To have this clearly understood: nothing can fully match the
      > > machine made sheen of the
      > > > 19th century mass produced papers or the special surface
      achieved
      > > with a stone hanging
      > > > downwards from the ceiling in a clever contraption and being
      > > operated by a pitiable
      > > > person moving their arms to and fro for hours on end. We can
      only
      > > come close.
      > > >
      > > > Susanne Krause
      > > >
      > >
      >
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