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  • YehudaMiklaf/MaureneFritz
    ... works! Do you mean for any marbling or specifically for acrylics? -Yehuda Yehuda Miklaf Jerusalem fritzmiklaf@bezeqint.net [Non-text portions of this
    Message 1 of 4 , Apr 22, 2007
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      >Also Natur Text from Hahnemuelle is the paper I swear by. Pricey, but
      works!



      Do you mean for any marbling or specifically for acrylics?



      -Yehuda



      Yehuda Miklaf

      Jerusalem

      fritzmiklaf@...





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    • hamburgerbuntpapier_de
      Hi Yehuda, Hahnemühle Natur Text (in Germany they call it Natural Line) had been my standard for years – paste, peewit and dribbled alike, until I
      Message 2 of 4 , Apr 22, 2007
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        Hi Yehuda,

        Hahnemühle Natur Text (in Germany they call it Natural Line) had been my standard for
        years – paste, peewit and dribbled alike, until I discovered after having bought a fresh
        supply that they had changed something or other in the manufacturing process which
        made it totally unsuitable for peewits and dribbled and problematic for paste. This had
        happened before, and then it took weeks and a million telephone calls and many
        discarded sheets to re-adjust my recipes. Once again, they claimed nothing had changed
        until I sent them samples from before and after. That put a full stop to any
        correspondence. Several marblers I know use it still, for traditional techniques as well as
        for acrylics, so it doesn't seem to present much of a problem there. Maybe the alum
        neutralizes something or other, and levels the funny surface that made my peewits look as
        it the moths had eaten most of them. So be careful! Don't buy too much at a time, it's such
        a bother having to re-sell unsuitable plain paper if the manufacturer isn't cooperative and
        leaves you in the lurch. Needless to say, they don't guarantee suitability for something
        exceedingly exotic as decorated papers.

        All Hahnemühle papers are rather voluminous, they're not specialists for fine etching
        papers for nothing. I have switched to Fedrigoni paper (the sort is called Corolla Book) for
        most of my standard patterns. It's much less voluminous, much more elegant on the book,
        and what's even better, available in 90 gsm and 50 x 70 cm short grain, my favourite size.
        The price for 90 gsm Fedrigoni is more or less the same as for 100 gsm Hahnemühle.

        Susanne Krause

        --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, "YehudaMiklaf/MaureneFritz" <fritzmiklaf@...> wrote:
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        > >Also Natur Text from Hahnemuelle is the paper I swear by. Pricey, but
        > works!
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        > Do you mean for any marbling or specifically for acrylics?
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        > -Yehuda
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        > Yehuda Miklaf
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        > Jerusalem
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        > fritzmiklaf@...
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      • irisnevins
        I sure hope they don t change it. I had asked when I switched to it, if they ever did and it stopped working, if I could buy a whole run of the old formula, I
        Message 3 of 4 , Apr 22, 2007
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          I sure hope they don't change it. I had asked when I switched to it, if they ever did and it stopped working, if I could buy a whole run of the old formula, I wouldn't care how many thousands of sheets it ran, and they said OK. I don't know what their production run usually is, I may get into some trouble if that happens, LOL!

          Iris Nevins
          www.marblingpaper.com<http://www.marblingpaper.com/>
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: hamburgerbuntpapier_de<mailto:studio@...>
          To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:00 PM
          Subject: [Marbling] Re: Iris wrote:


          Hi Yehuda,

          Hahnemühle Natur Text (in Germany they call it Natural Line) had been my standard for
          years - paste, peewit and dribbled alike, until I discovered after having bought a fresh
          supply that they had changed something or other in the manufacturing process which
          made it totally unsuitable for peewits and dribbled and problematic for paste. This had
          happened before, and then it took weeks and a million telephone calls and many
          discarded sheets to re-adjust my recipes. Once again, they claimed nothing had changed
          until I sent them samples from before and after. That put a full stop to any
          correspondence. Several marblers I know use it still, for traditional techniques as well as
          for acrylics, so it doesn't seem to present much of a problem there. Maybe the alum
          neutralizes something or other, and levels the funny surface that made my peewits look as
          it the moths had eaten most of them. So be careful! Don't buy too much at a time, it's such
          a bother having to re-sell unsuitable plain paper if the manufacturer isn't cooperative and
          leaves you in the lurch. Needless to say, they don't guarantee suitability for something
          exceedingly exotic as decorated papers.

          All Hahnemühle papers are rather voluminous, they're not specialists for fine etching
          papers for nothing. I have switched to Fedrigoni paper (the sort is called Corolla Book) for
          most of my standard patterns. It's much less voluminous, much more elegant on the book,
          and what's even better, available in 90 gsm and 50 x 70 cm short grain, my favourite size.
          The price for 90 gsm Fedrigoni is more or less the same as for 100 gsm Hahnemühle.

          Susanne Krause

          --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com>, "YehudaMiklaf/MaureneFritz" <fritzmiklaf@...> wrote:
          >
          > >Also Natur Text from Hahnemuelle is the paper I swear by. Pricey, but
          > works!
          >
          >
          >
          > Do you mean for any marbling or specifically for acrylics?
          >
          >
          >
          > -Yehuda
          >
          >
          >
          > Yehuda Miklaf
          >
          > Jerusalem
          >
          > fritzmiklaf@...
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >





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        • YehudaMiklaf/MaureneFritz
          Thank you Suzanne That s good news because I have a whole drawer of Fedrigoni that I got from a printer friend but haven t tried it for marbling. -Yehuda
          Message 4 of 4 , Apr 24, 2007
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            Thank you Suzanne



            That's good news because I have a whole drawer of Fedrigoni that I got from
            a printer friend but haven't tried it for marbling.



            -Yehuda



            Yehuda Miklaf

            Jerusalem

            fritzmiklaf@...





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