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  • Jake Benson
    Hi Everyone, I wanted to let eveyone know that I just watched a new commercial by Partnership for Drug-Free America that features a marbled tie? A middle-aged
    Message 1 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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      Hi Everyone,

      I wanted to let eveyone know that I just watched a new commercial by Partnership for
      Drug-Free America that features a marbled tie? A middle-aged man rumages is going
      through his closlet when he spots the tie and the narrator implies that the pattern is
      psychedelic, and that the man has used drugs in the past.

      The Partnership can accept comments about this on their web site:

      http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/Contact/

      Well, I've fired off a nice long detailed snarly message after seeing the commercial. I think
      they shoudl hear complaints from marblers about how they have made a very poor choice
      item is no only a poor choice ot represent psychedelia, it could also hurt retail sales
      because people will now incorrectly think that marbling somehow refers to using drugs.
      Tell them about your work, and where you retail your goods if appropriate. those who sell
      at museum and library gift shops will certainly do much to impress them.

      It also made me wonder if it could be determined who made the tie, and if the marbler
      even knows that their product was used in the commercial in this way. Are they in
      violation of copyright law?

      Below is the text of my letter. The views expressed are my own, but do feel free to cut and
      paste any of it in a message of your own. this orgnaization has done some pretty stupid
      things in the past as a result of their zeal. They once showed an EEG brain monitor of a
      dead person (single line, no movement), and sated that "this is what happens when you do
      drugs". Physicians across the country were outraged and they suceeded in getting the ad
      pulled.

      There is one part of the message that I would like to be able to verify. Years ago when the
      NYC supplier TALAS was still owned by the HAAS family, they had a wonderful bit of
      marbled paper hanging on the wall of their retail space. They told me it was part of a
      paper made for President Reagan's Inaugural album. What I don;t remember is WHO made
      that paper. It was a red, white, and blue (of course) combed "American" or something like
      that! Can anyone tell me, or does anyone remember? Would this album now be at the
      Reagan Library?

      To Whom it May Concern,

      I just watched a commercial produced by your organization on the AMC channel in which a
      middle-aged man is seen going through his ties in his closet. In the back he spots one
      that features a hand-marbled design. The narrator implies that the tie is "psychedelic"
      and refers to the fact that the man has used drugs in the past.

      I thought that you should know that the art of marbling, as it is known, has a long and
      venerable history. Very little of it can be be described as "psychedelic". We do not know
      the exact origins of the art, but some think it might have developed in China or Central
      Asia. In Japan, a method of floating ink on water survives today and is known as
      suminagashi. The oldest examples are found in Imperial manuscripts dating to the Heian
      period, the oldest one dates to 1118 AD. It is a copy of the Lotus Sutra, a sacred Buddhist
      manuscript.

      The art of marbled may have developed along the Silk Road, and a form emerged in the
      Muslim world that became very popular. Very rare examples of marbling used in paintings
      from India have sold at auction in recent years for over $100,000. In the 16th century,
      European travelers, especially Germanic nobility, visited cities like Istanbul, where they
      spotted the curious paper in the bazaars, purchased the sheets and had them bound into a
      small little book known as an Album Amicorum, an early form of the autograph album.
      One such album is currently offered for sale by Ursus Books, a very repsected antiquarian
      dealer in New york City, for the modest sum of $350,000.

      The association with bookbinding continues and the use of marbled paper for endpapers
      and covering material is seen to dramatically increase in the 17th and 18th centuries, after
      Europeans learned to make their own papers and mass-produce them. They are found
      covering and lining early telescopes as well as musical and scientific instrument cases.
      They can be seen as endpapers on and Imperial Grant of Arms from Empress Maria
      Theresa. Such artifacts are of course, very valuable and have no association whatsoever
      with drug use.

      In America, the loans made by the French government to the Continental Congress in
      America were written upon marbled paper specially commissioned by Benjamin Franklin.
      The paper was masked before it was marbled, so as to leave only a strip of marbled paper
      running up the middle. The text of loan agreement was printed twice on both sides of the
      sheet in a typeface specially designed by Franklin himself. Once the printed form was
      signed a completed by the persons concerned, the document was cut up the middle in an
      irregular manner. The two halves of the agreement would match precisely, and the
      irregular marbled pattern provided an added layer of security to the contract, as the
      pattern would also match perfectly in addition to the cut. This pattern is also
      REMARKABLY similar to the tie you feature in your commercial.

      Benjamin Franklin's grandson Benjamin Franklin Bache printed early continental bill notes
      on marbled paper. It was quickly learned that a marbled design applied to the edge of a
      book was also a useful security measure in account bookbinding. If someone removed
      pages from an account book, the design on the edge would be interrupted, tipping off to
      an observer that it had been tampered with. Nearly every financial institution in the
      country came to use such account books in the 19th century, even on into the first half of
      the 20th.

      Did you know that there is still a division for hand bookbinding at the Government Printing
      Office in Washington DC?. Some of the more special leather bound books are still
      traditionally marbled along the edge. These deluxe-bound volumes are specially ordered
      each year for the Congress and Senate, the Supreme Court, as well as the President.

      Today a handful of artist in the US still make traditional marbled papers, and they now also
      marble fabric. It became especially popular in the 1980's. Marbled papers are used for by
      professional framers for what is called "French matting". It adds a distinctive,
      sophisticated look to framed prints. Martha Stewart has featured marblers on her show,
      and published an article in her magazine in February last year on making marbled
      valentines. Does Martha prpmote drug-use?

      A wonderful red white and blue marbled paper was used for a special commemorative
      book given to President Ronald Reagan at his inauguration. The design was REMARKABLY
      similar to the one on the tie that you featured in your commercial. Today in art classes
      across the country, children learn to marble as a classroom activity. Are school teachers
      somehow promoting drug use when they teach children to marble?

      Because of the strong associations with American History and the venerable art of hand
      bookbinding, marbled ties like the one featured in your commercial are quite naturally
      sported as professional attire by men and women who work as rare book librarians,
      curators, conservators, and preservationists. I have no doubt that you will observe a
      veritable sea of marbled scarves and ties, not a rock concert, but at the annual meeting of
      the American Library Association, The American Institute for Conservation of Art and
      Historic Artifacts, the Association of American Archivists, as well as just about any
      antiquarian book dealer. Are these upstanding professionals promoting drug use if they
      wear marbled apparel and accessories?

      In conclusion, the insinuation that the marbled design shown on a tie was "psychedelic' is
      extremely offensive to the good people who wear such ties on a regular or even occasional
      basis, many of whom work in libraries and museums with rare books, archives, and
      artifacts where one encounters historic marbled designs. However, even more importantly
      is the fact that you do a distinct disservice to the people who continue to struggle to
      perpetuate the historic tradition of marbling. Many sell their handmade products for a
      living at respectable institutions. It is not a highly lucrative endeavor, as it can take many
      years to develop skill and consistency. Aside from retail apparel, marbled papers are still
      used for bookbinding and restoration all over the country, including many respectable rare
      book libraries, museums, and institutions.

      It is sad that we must necessarily expect that many Americans will now forgo hand-
      marbled products made by American craftspeople because they will think they have
      something to do with using drugs. The only reason they will come to this conclusion is
      not because of any FACTS whatsoever, but only because of your stupid commercial! Your
      poor choice of an object to feature as "psychedelic" in your commercial will have
      unforeseen repercussions Next time you want to feature drugs in someone's past, why use
      something MORE AUTHENTIC??? Like a TIE-DYED T-SHIRT!!! Or an old 60's psychedelic
      concert poster???

      To me, your portrayal of the man going through his closet seemed at first as if he was
      going to wear a tie he bought in 1985 at an upscale craft gallery, not something off the
      street in 1965 Haight-Ashbury, much less a rock concert! I really doubt that many hippies
      were wearing these ties, as from what I remember, men swore off ties much like women
      burned their bras. If you wore a tie you were definitely "establishment". Only "squares"
      wore ties. If you study the apparent trends, you must necessarily concede that that the
      marbled tie is predominantly a form of 1980's YUPPIE ATTIRE!!!!

      It is also interesting that some are exploring marbling as a unique form of art therapy for
      children, terminally ill, mental patients, and the elderly. The results have been initially
      very promising and noteworthy. Even the act of marbling is shown to cause a person to
      become very relaxed, happy, and satisfied. Since your organization has taken it upon
      yourselves to produce such a commercial, I think it only fitting that you should studio art
      programs as alternatives to using drugs for kids! You should sponsor studies to see if
      marbling would be a useful form of art therapy in drug prevention and rehabilitation
      programs?

      Jake Benson
    • james tapley
      Well Jake now they are going to know for sure that we are all on drugs! I believe an issue of INK & GALL referenced the Reagan marbled papers in a conversation
      Message 2 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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        Well Jake now they are going to know for sure that we are all on drugs!
        I believe an issue of INK & GALL referenced the Reagan marbled papers
        in a conversation about fixatives if anyone has an archive. Best, James

        James Tapley
        Hand
        Bookbinder
        2077 13th Street
        Sarasota FL 34237
        941.366.8248
      • Brent Mydland
        Did they get permission for the copyright they infringed upon? And will the owner stand up and let us know why they let them use it for this matter of bad
        Message 3 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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          Did they get permission for the copyright they infringed upon? And will the owner stand up and let us know why they let them use it for this matter of bad taste publicity.It was not me I dont make ties.
          JBG

          Jake Benson <handbindery@...> wrote:
          Hi Everyone,

          I wanted to let eveyone know that I just watched a new commercial by Partnership for
          Drug-Free America that features a marbled tie? A middle-aged man rumages is going
          through his closlet when he spots the tie and the narrator implies that the pattern is
          psychedelic, and that the man has used drugs in the past.

          The Partnership can accept comments about this on their web site:

          http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/Contact/

          Well, I've fired off a nice long detailed snarly message after seeing the commercial. I think
          they shoudl hear complaints from marblers about how they have made a very poor choice
          item is no only a poor choice ot represent psychedelia, it could also hurt retail sales
          because people will now incorrectly think that marbling somehow refers to using drugs.
          Tell them about your work, and where you retail your goods if appropriate. those who sell
          at museum and library gift shops will certainly do much to impress them.

          It also made me wonder if it could be determined who made the tie, and if the marbler
          even knows that their product was used in the commercial in this way. Are they in
          violation of copyright law?

          Below is the text of my letter. The views expressed are my own, but do feel free to cut and
          paste any of it in a message of your own. this orgnaization has done some pretty stupid
          things in the past as a result of their zeal. They once showed an EEG brain monitor of a
          dead person (single line, no movement), and sated that "this is what happens when you do
          drugs". Physicians across the country were outraged and they suceeded in getting the ad
          pulled.

          There is one part of the message that I would like to be able to verify. Years ago when the
          NYC supplier TALAS was still owned by the HAAS family, they had a wonderful bit of
          marbled paper hanging on the wall of their retail space. They told me it was part of a
          paper made for President Reagan's Inaugural album. What I don;t remember is WHO made
          that paper. It was a red, white, and blue (of course) combed "American" or something like
          that! Can anyone tell me, or does anyone remember? Would this album now be at the
          Reagan Library?

          To Whom it May Concern,

          I just watched a commercial produced by your organization on the AMC channel in which a
          middle-aged man is seen going through his ties in his closet. In the back he spots one
          that features a hand-marbled design. The narrator implies that the tie is "psychedelic"
          and refers to the fact that the man has used drugs in the past.

          I thought that you should know that the art of marbling, as it is known, has a long and
          venerable history. Very little of it can be be described as "psychedelic". We do not know
          the exact origins of the art, but some think it might have developed in China or Central
          Asia. In Japan, a method of floating ink on water survives today and is known as
          suminagashi. The oldest examples are found in Imperial manuscripts dating to the Heian
          period, the oldest one dates to 1118 AD. It is a copy of the Lotus Sutra, a sacred Buddhist
          manuscript.

          The art of marbled may have developed along the Silk Road, and a form emerged in the
          Muslim world that became very popular. Very rare examples of marbling used in paintings
          from India have sold at auction in recent years for over $100,000. In the 16th century,
          European travelers, especially Germanic nobility, visited cities like Istanbul, where they
          spotted the curious paper in the bazaars, purchased the sheets and had them bound into a
          small little book known as an Album Amicorum, an early form of the autograph album.
          One such album is currently offered for sale by Ursus Books, a very repsected antiquarian
          dealer in New york City, for the modest sum of $350,000.

          The association with bookbinding continues and the use of marbled paper for endpapers
          and covering material is seen to dramatically increase in the 17th and 18th centuries, after
          Europeans learned to make their own papers and mass-produce them. They are found
          covering and lining early telescopes as well as musical and scientific instrument cases.
          They can be seen as endpapers on and Imperial Grant of Arms from Empress Maria
          Theresa. Such artifacts are of course, very valuable and have no association whatsoever
          with drug use.

          In America, the loans made by the French government to the Continental Congress in
          America were written upon marbled paper specially commissioned by Benjamin Franklin.
          The paper was masked before it was marbled, so as to leave only a strip of marbled paper
          running up the middle. The text of loan agreement was printed twice on both sides of the
          sheet in a typeface specially designed by Franklin himself. Once the printed form was
          signed a completed by the persons concerned, the document was cut up the middle in an
          irregular manner. The two halves of the agreement would match precisely, and the
          irregular marbled pattern provided an added layer of security to the contract, as the
          pattern would also match perfectly in addition to the cut. This pattern is also
          REMARKABLY similar to the tie you feature in your commercial.

          Benjamin Franklin's grandson Benjamin Franklin Bache printed early continental bill notes
          on marbled paper. It was quickly learned that a marbled design applied to the edge of a
          book was also a useful security measure in account bookbinding. If someone removed
          pages from an account book, the design on the edge would be interrupted, tipping off to
          an observer that it had been tampered with. Nearly every financial institution in the
          country came to use such account books in the 19th century, even on into the first half of
          the 20th.

          Did you know that there is still a division for hand bookbinding at the Government Printing
          Office in Washington DC?. Some of the more special leather bound books are still
          traditionally marbled along the edge. These deluxe-bound volumes are specially ordered
          each year for the Congress and Senate, the Supreme Court, as well as the President.

          Today a handful of artist in the US still make traditional marbled papers, and they now also
          marble fabric. It became especially popular in the 1980's. Marbled papers are used for by
          professional framers for what is called "French matting". It adds a distinctive,
          sophisticated look to framed prints. Martha Stewart has featured marblers on her show,
          and published an article in her magazine in February last year on making marbled
          valentines. Does Martha prpmote drug-use?

          A wonderful red white and blue marbled paper was used for a special commemorative
          book given to President Ronald Reagan at his inauguration. The design was REMARKABLY
          similar to the one on the tie that you featured in your commercial. Today in art classes
          across the country, children learn to marble as a classroom activity. Are school teachers
          somehow promoting drug use when they teach children to marble?

          Because of the strong associations with American History and the venerable art of hand
          bookbinding, marbled ties like the one featured in your commercial are quite naturally
          sported as professional attire by men and women who work as rare book librarians,
          curators, conservators, and preservationists. I have no doubt that you will observe a
          veritable sea of marbled scarves and ties, not a rock concert, but at the annual meeting of
          the American Library Association, The American Institute for Conservation of Art and
          Historic Artifacts, the Association of American Archivists, as well as just about any
          antiquarian book dealer. Are these upstanding professionals promoting drug use if they
          wear marbled apparel and accessories?

          In conclusion, the insinuation that the marbled design shown on a tie was "psychedelic' is
          extremely offensive to the good people who wear such ties on a regular or even occasional
          basis, many of whom work in libraries and museums with rare books, archives, and
          artifacts where one encounters historic marbled designs. However, even more importantly
          is the fact that you do a distinct disservice to the people who continue to struggle to
          perpetuate the historic tradition of marbling. Many sell their handmade products for a
          living at respectable institutions. It is not a highly lucrative endeavor, as it can take many
          years to develop skill and consistency. Aside from retail apparel, marbled papers are still
          used for bookbinding and restoration all over the country, including many respectable rare
          book libraries, museums, and institutions.

          It is sad that we must necessarily expect that many Americans will now forgo hand-
          marbled products made by American craftspeople because they will think they have
          something to do with using drugs. The only reason they will come to this conclusion is
          not because of any FACTS whatsoever, but only because of your stupid commercial! Your
          poor choice of an object to feature as "psychedelic" in your commercial will have
          unforeseen repercussions Next time you want to feature drugs in someone's past, why use
          something MORE AUTHENTIC??? Like a TIE-DYED T-SHIRT!!! Or an old 60's psychedelic
          concert poster???

          To me, your portrayal of the man going through his closet seemed at first as if he was
          going to wear a tie he bought in 1985 at an upscale craft gallery, not something off the
          street in 1965 Haight-Ashbury, much less a rock concert! I really doubt that many hippies
          were wearing these ties, as from what I remember, men swore off ties much like women
          burned their bras. If you wore a tie you were definitely "establishment". Only "squares"
          wore ties. If you study the apparent trends, you must necessarily concede that that the
          marbled tie is predominantly a form of 1980's YUPPIE ATTIRE!!!!

          It is also interesting that some are exploring marbling as a unique form of art therapy for
          children, terminally ill, mental patients, and the elderly. The results have been initially
          very promising and noteworthy. Even the act of marbling is shown to cause a person to
          become very relaxed, happy, and satisfied. Since your organization has taken it upon
          yourselves to produce such a commercial, I think it only fitting that you should studio art
          programs as alternatives to using drugs for kids! You should sponsor studies to see if
          marbling would be a useful form of art therapy in drug prevention and rehabilitation
          programs?

          Jake Benson






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        • james tapley
          It was Dianne Maurer who did the marbling for Reagan s THE YEAR OF THE FLAG. See her How I Met the Marbling Muse on the Road to Immortality , INK & GALL, Vol
          Message 4 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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            It was Dianne Maurer who did the marbling for Reagan's THE YEAR OF
            THE FLAG. See her "How I Met the Marbling Muse on the Road to
            Immortality", INK & GALL, Vol 1 No 3. Best, James

            James Tapley
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          • james tapley
            Ooops... and her partner Paul. My bad! James Tapley Hand Bookbinder 2077 13th Street Sarasota FL 34237 941.366.8248
            Message 5 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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              Ooops... and her partner Paul. My bad!

              James Tapley
              Hand
              Bookbinder
              2077 13th Street
              Sarasota FL 34237
              941.366.8248
            • Jake Benson
              Well Jim, who knows? Maybe we ll all somehow surreptitiously cash in on the unexpected bit of publicity! What s that adage about any publicity is good
              Message 6 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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                Well Jim, who knows?

                Maybe we'll all somehow surreptitiously cash in on the unexpected bit of publicity!
                What's that adage about any publicity is good publicity?
                Well, I guess that's only reportedly true for celebrities on their way down in Hollywood.

                Someone wrote to this group last year who found marbling a helpful form of therapy in
                their struggle with addiction. I have tried searching the archives in various ways, but can't
                find the message. Are you still out there?

                Jake
              • gretchen vansant
                Funny,I was an addict for 20 years and my therapy, to separate myself from my drug induced community,was to marble.I ve been clean for 6 years thanks to my
                Message 7 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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                  Funny,I was an addict for 20 years and my therapy, to separate myself from my drug induced community,was to marble.I've been clean for 6 years thanks to my favorite medium. I feel your letter was great Jake, I wrote one too.This truly was a poor representation of the "Hippie Era" Peace Gretchen

                  Jake Benson <handbindery@...> wrote: Well Jim, who knows?

                  Maybe we'll all somehow surreptitiously cash in on the unexpected bit of publicity!
                  What's that adage about any publicity is good publicity?
                  Well, I guess that's only reportedly true for celebrities on their way down in Hollywood.

                  Someone wrote to this group last year who found marbling a helpful form of therapy in
                  their struggle with addiction. I have tried searching the archives in various ways, but can't
                  find the message. Are you still out there?

                  Jake





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                • gretchen vansant
                  Its me Jake see previous message...I thank god for marbling ,I haven t struggled for years (financially maybe but not with drugs) peace gretchen Jake Benson
                  Message 8 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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                    Its me Jake see previous message...I thank god for marbling ,I haven't struggled for years (financially maybe but not with drugs) peace gretchen


                    Jake Benson <handbindery@...> wrote:
                    Well Jim, who knows?

                    Maybe we'll all somehow surreptitiously cash in on the unexpected bit of publicity!
                    What's that adage about any publicity is good publicity?
                    Well, I guess that's only reportedly true for celebrities on their way down in Hollywood.

                    Someone wrote to this group last year who found marbling a helpful form of therapy in
                    their struggle with addiction. I have tried searching the archives in various ways, but can't
                    find the message. Are you still out there?

                    Jake





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                  • irisnevins
                    Hi Jake... Hmm.... regarding Reagan, I don t know, but Barbara Mauriello and I coordinated on a desk set and stationary holders, maybe desk blotter, that kind
                    Message 9 of 11 , Jan 22, 2006
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                      Hi Jake...
                      Hmm.... regarding Reagan, I don't know, but Barbara Mauriello and I coordinated on a desk set and stationary holders, maybe desk blotter, that kind of thing for Barbara Bush. I did a red white and blue SPANISH papers for that, it was the pattern she liked!

                      Do you think anything will come of your email re: the tie?

                      iris Nevins
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                      From: Jake Benson<mailto:handbindery@...>
                      To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
                      Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:47 PM
                      Subject: [Marbling] Commercial on TV


                      Hi Everyone,

                      I wanted to let eveyone know that I just watched a new commercial by Partnership for
                      Drug-Free America that features a marbled tie? A middle-aged man rumages is going
                      through his closlet when he spots the tie and the narrator implies that the pattern is
                      psychedelic, and that the man has used drugs in the past.

                      The Partnership can accept comments about this on their web site:

                      http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/Contact/<http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/Contact/>

                      Well, I've fired off a nice long detailed snarly message after seeing the commercial. I think
                      they shoudl hear complaints from marblers about how they have made a very poor choice
                      item is no only a poor choice ot represent psychedelia, it could also hurt retail sales
                      because people will now incorrectly think that marbling somehow refers to using drugs.
                      Tell them about your work, and where you retail your goods if appropriate. those who sell
                      at museum and library gift shops will certainly do much to impress them.

                      It also made me wonder if it could be determined who made the tie, and if the marbler
                      even knows that their product was used in the commercial in this way. Are they in
                      violation of copyright law?

                      Below is the text of my letter. The views expressed are my own, but do feel free to cut and
                      paste any of it in a message of your own. this orgnaization has done some pretty stupid
                      things in the past as a result of their zeal. They once showed an EEG brain monitor of a
                      dead person (single line, no movement), and sated that "this is what happens when you do
                      drugs". Physicians across the country were outraged and they suceeded in getting the ad
                      pulled.

                      There is one part of the message that I would like to be able to verify. Years ago when the
                      NYC supplier TALAS was still owned by the HAAS family, they had a wonderful bit of
                      marbled paper hanging on the wall of their retail space. They told me it was part of a
                      paper made for President Reagan's Inaugural album. What I don;t remember is WHO made
                      that paper. It was a red, white, and blue (of course) combed "American" or something like
                      that! Can anyone tell me, or does anyone remember? Would this album now be at the
                      Reagan Library?

                      To Whom it May Concern,

                      I just watched a commercial produced by your organization on the AMC channel in which a
                      middle-aged man is seen going through his ties in his closet. In the back he spots one
                      that features a hand-marbled design. The narrator implies that the tie is "psychedelic"
                      and refers to the fact that the man has used drugs in the past.

                      I thought that you should know that the art of marbling, as it is known, has a long and
                      venerable history. Very little of it can be be described as "psychedelic". We do not know
                      the exact origins of the art, but some think it might have developed in China or Central
                      Asia. In Japan, a method of floating ink on water survives today and is known as
                      suminagashi. The oldest examples are found in Imperial manuscripts dating to the Heian
                      period, the oldest one dates to 1118 AD. It is a copy of the Lotus Sutra, a sacred Buddhist
                      manuscript.

                      The art of marbled may have developed along the Silk Road, and a form emerged in the
                      Muslim world that became very popular. Very rare examples of marbling used in paintings
                      from India have sold at auction in recent years for over $100,000. In the 16th century,
                      European travelers, especially Germanic nobility, visited cities like Istanbul, where they
                      spotted the curious paper in the bazaars, purchased the sheets and had them bound into a
                      small little book known as an Album Amicorum, an early form of the autograph album.
                      One such album is currently offered for sale by Ursus Books, a very repsected antiquarian
                      dealer in New york City, for the modest sum of $350,000.

                      The association with bookbinding continues and the use of marbled paper for endpapers
                      and covering material is seen to dramatically increase in the 17th and 18th centuries, after
                      Europeans learned to make their own papers and mass-produce them. They are found
                      covering and lining early telescopes as well as musical and scientific instrument cases.
                      They can be seen as endpapers on and Imperial Grant of Arms from Empress Maria
                      Theresa. Such artifacts are of course, very valuable and have no association whatsoever
                      with drug use.

                      In America, the loans made by the French government to the Continental Congress in
                      America were written upon marbled paper specially commissioned by Benjamin Franklin.
                      The paper was masked before it was marbled, so as to leave only a strip of marbled paper
                      running up the middle. The text of loan agreement was printed twice on both sides of the
                      sheet in a typeface specially designed by Franklin himself. Once the printed form was
                      signed a completed by the persons concerned, the document was cut up the middle in an
                      irregular manner. The two halves of the agreement would match precisely, and the
                      irregular marbled pattern provided an added layer of security to the contract, as the
                      pattern would also match perfectly in addition to the cut. This pattern is also
                      REMARKABLY similar to the tie you feature in your commercial.

                      Benjamin Franklin's grandson Benjamin Franklin Bache printed early continental bill notes
                      on marbled paper. It was quickly learned that a marbled design applied to the edge of a
                      book was also a useful security measure in account bookbinding. If someone removed
                      pages from an account book, the design on the edge would be interrupted, tipping off to
                      an observer that it had been tampered with. Nearly every financial institution in the
                      country came to use such account books in the 19th century, even on into the first half of
                      the 20th.

                      Did you know that there is still a division for hand bookbinding at the Government Printing
                      Office in Washington DC?. Some of the more special leather bound books are still
                      traditionally marbled along the edge. These deluxe-bound volumes are specially ordered
                      each year for the Congress and Senate, the Supreme Court, as well as the President.

                      Today a handful of artist in the US still make traditional marbled papers, and they now also
                      marble fabric. It became especially popular in the 1980's. Marbled papers are used for by
                      professional framers for what is called "French matting". It adds a distinctive,
                      sophisticated look to framed prints. Martha Stewart has featured marblers on her show,
                      and published an article in her magazine in February last year on making marbled
                      valentines. Does Martha prpmote drug-use?

                      A wonderful red white and blue marbled paper was used for a special commemorative
                      book given to President Ronald Reagan at his inauguration. The design was REMARKABLY
                      similar to the one on the tie that you featured in your commercial. Today in art classes
                      across the country, children learn to marble as a classroom activity. Are school teachers
                      somehow promoting drug use when they teach children to marble?

                      Because of the strong associations with American History and the venerable art of hand
                      bookbinding, marbled ties like the one featured in your commercial are quite naturally
                      sported as professional attire by men and women who work as rare book librarians,
                      curators, conservators, and preservationists. I have no doubt that you will observe a
                      veritable sea of marbled scarves and ties, not a rock concert, but at the annual meeting of
                      the American Library Association, The American Institute for Conservation of Art and
                      Historic Artifacts, the Association of American Archivists, as well as just about any
                      antiquarian book dealer. Are these upstanding professionals promoting drug use if they
                      wear marbled apparel and accessories?

                      In conclusion, the insinuation that the marbled design shown on a tie was "psychedelic' is
                      extremely offensive to the good people who wear such ties on a regular or even occasional
                      basis, many of whom work in libraries and museums with rare books, archives, and
                      artifacts where one encounters historic marbled designs. However, even more importantly
                      is the fact that you do a distinct disservice to the people who continue to struggle to
                      perpetuate the historic tradition of marbling. Many sell their handmade products for a
                      living at respectable institutions. It is not a highly lucrative endeavor, as it can take many
                      years to develop skill and consistency. Aside from retail apparel, marbled papers are still
                      used for bookbinding and restoration all over the country, including many respectable rare
                      book libraries, museums, and institutions.

                      It is sad that we must necessarily expect that many Americans will now forgo hand-
                      marbled products made by American craftspeople because they will think they have
                      something to do with using drugs. The only reason they will come to this conclusion is
                      not because of any FACTS whatsoever, but only because of your stupid commercial! Your
                      poor choice of an object to feature as "psychedelic" in your commercial will have
                      unforeseen repercussions Next time you want to feature drugs in someone's past, why use
                      something MORE AUTHENTIC??? Like a TIE-DYED T-SHIRT!!! Or an old 60's psychedelic
                      concert poster???

                      To me, your portrayal of the man going through his closet seemed at first as if he was
                      going to wear a tie he bought in 1985 at an upscale craft gallery, not something off the
                      street in 1965 Haight-Ashbury, much less a rock concert! I really doubt that many hippies
                      were wearing these ties, as from what I remember, men swore off ties much like women
                      burned their bras. If you wore a tie you were definitely "establishment". Only "squares"
                      wore ties. If you study the apparent trends, you must necessarily concede that that the
                      marbled tie is predominantly a form of 1980's YUPPIE ATTIRE!!!!

                      It is also interesting that some are exploring marbling as a unique form of art therapy for
                      children, terminally ill, mental patients, and the elderly. The results have been initially
                      very promising and noteworthy. Even the act of marbling is shown to cause a person to
                      become very relaxed, happy, and satisfied. Since your organization has taken it upon
                      yourselves to produce such a commercial, I think it only fitting that you should studio art
                      programs as alternatives to using drugs for kids! You should sponsor studies to see if
                      marbling would be a useful form of art therapy in drug prevention and rehabilitation
                      programs?

                      Jake Benson







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                    • irisnevins
                      I would question whether using the tie in a commercial would be infringement exactly, I wonder though if the make could sue for damages of some sort for making
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                        I would question whether using the tie in a commercial would be infringement exactly, I wonder though if the make could sue for damages of some sort for making them look bad.

                        Iris Nevins
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Brent Mydland<mailto:jbg78734@...>
                        To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
                        Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:25 PM
                        Subject: Re: [Marbling] Commercial on TV


                        Did they get permission for the copyright they infringed upon? And will the owner stand up and let us know why they let them use it for this matter of bad taste publicity.It was not me I dont make ties.
                        JBG

                        Jake Benson <handbindery@...<mailto:handbindery@...>> wrote:
                        Hi Everyone,

                        I wanted to let eveyone know that I just watched a new commercial by Partnership for
                        Drug-Free America that features a marbled tie? A middle-aged man rumages is going
                        through his closlet when he spots the tie and the narrator implies that the pattern is
                        psychedelic, and that the man has used drugs in the past.

                        The Partnership can accept comments about this on their web site:

                        http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/Contact/<http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/Contact/>

                        Well, I've fired off a nice long detailed snarly message after seeing the commercial. I think
                        they shoudl hear complaints from marblers about how they have made a very poor choice
                        item is no only a poor choice ot represent psychedelia, it could also hurt retail sales
                        because people will now incorrectly think that marbling somehow refers to using drugs.
                        Tell them about your work, and where you retail your goods if appropriate. those who sell
                        at museum and library gift shops will certainly do much to impress them.

                        It also made me wonder if it could be determined who made the tie, and if the marbler
                        even knows that their product was used in the commercial in this way. Are they in
                        violation of copyright law?

                        Below is the text of my letter. The views expressed are my own, but do feel free to cut and
                        paste any of it in a message of your own. this orgnaization has done some pretty stupid
                        things in the past as a result of their zeal. They once showed an EEG brain monitor of a
                        dead person (single line, no movement), and sated that "this is what happens when you do
                        drugs". Physicians across the country were outraged and they suceeded in getting the ad
                        pulled.

                        There is one part of the message that I would like to be able to verify. Years ago when the
                        NYC supplier TALAS was still owned by the HAAS family, they had a wonderful bit of
                        marbled paper hanging on the wall of their retail space. They told me it was part of a
                        paper made for President Reagan's Inaugural album. What I don;t remember is WHO made
                        that paper. It was a red, white, and blue (of course) combed "American" or something like
                        that! Can anyone tell me, or does anyone remember? Would this album now be at the
                        Reagan Library?

                        To Whom it May Concern,

                        I just watched a commercial produced by your organization on the AMC channel in which a
                        middle-aged man is seen going through his ties in his closet. In the back he spots one
                        that features a hand-marbled design. The narrator implies that the tie is "psychedelic"
                        and refers to the fact that the man has used drugs in the past.

                        I thought that you should know that the art of marbling, as it is known, has a long and
                        venerable history. Very little of it can be be described as "psychedelic". We do not know
                        the exact origins of the art, but some think it might have developed in China or Central
                        Asia. In Japan, a method of floating ink on water survives today and is known as
                        suminagashi. The oldest examples are found in Imperial manuscripts dating to the Heian
                        period, the oldest one dates to 1118 AD. It is a copy of the Lotus Sutra, a sacred Buddhist
                        manuscript.

                        The art of marbled may have developed along the Silk Road, and a form emerged in the
                        Muslim world that became very popular. Very rare examples of marbling used in paintings
                        from India have sold at auction in recent years for over $100,000. In the 16th century,
                        European travelers, especially Germanic nobility, visited cities like Istanbul, where they
                        spotted the curious paper in the bazaars, purchased the sheets and had them bound into a
                        small little book known as an Album Amicorum, an early form of the autograph album.
                        One such album is currently offered for sale by Ursus Books, a very repsected antiquarian
                        dealer in New york City, for the modest sum of $350,000.

                        The association with bookbinding continues and the use of marbled paper for endpapers
                        and covering material is seen to dramatically increase in the 17th and 18th centuries, after
                        Europeans learned to make their own papers and mass-produce them. They are found
                        covering and lining early telescopes as well as musical and scientific instrument cases.
                        They can be seen as endpapers on and Imperial Grant of Arms from Empress Maria
                        Theresa. Such artifacts are of course, very valuable and have no association whatsoever
                        with drug use.

                        In America, the loans made by the French government to the Continental Congress in
                        America were written upon marbled paper specially commissioned by Benjamin Franklin.
                        The paper was masked before it was marbled, so as to leave only a strip of marbled paper
                        running up the middle. The text of loan agreement was printed twice on both sides of the
                        sheet in a typeface specially designed by Franklin himself. Once the printed form was
                        signed a completed by the persons concerned, the document was cut up the middle in an
                        irregular manner. The two halves of the agreement would match precisely, and the
                        irregular marbled pattern provided an added layer of security to the contract, as the
                        pattern would also match perfectly in addition to the cut. This pattern is also
                        REMARKABLY similar to the tie you feature in your commercial.

                        Benjamin Franklin's grandson Benjamin Franklin Bache printed early continental bill notes
                        on marbled paper. It was quickly learned that a marbled design applied to the edge of a
                        book was also a useful security measure in account bookbinding. If someone removed
                        pages from an account book, the design on the edge would be interrupted, tipping off to
                        an observer that it had been tampered with. Nearly every financial institution in the
                        country came to use such account books in the 19th century, even on into the first half of
                        the 20th.

                        Did you know that there is still a division for hand bookbinding at the Government Printing
                        Office in Washington DC?. Some of the more special leather bound books are still
                        traditionally marbled along the edge. These deluxe-bound volumes are specially ordered
                        each year for the Congress and Senate, the Supreme Court, as well as the President.

                        Today a handful of artist in the US still make traditional marbled papers, and they now also
                        marble fabric. It became especially popular in the 1980's. Marbled papers are used for by
                        professional framers for what is called "French matting". It adds a distinctive,
                        sophisticated look to framed prints. Martha Stewart has featured marblers on her show,
                        and published an article in her magazine in February last year on making marbled
                        valentines. Does Martha prpmote drug-use?

                        A wonderful red white and blue marbled paper was used for a special commemorative
                        book given to President Ronald Reagan at his inauguration. The design was REMARKABLY
                        similar to the one on the tie that you featured in your commercial. Today in art classes
                        across the country, children learn to marble as a classroom activity. Are school teachers
                        somehow promoting drug use when they teach children to marble?

                        Because of the strong associations with American History and the venerable art of hand
                        bookbinding, marbled ties like the one featured in your commercial are quite naturally
                        sported as professional attire by men and women who work as rare book librarians,
                        curators, conservators, and preservationists. I have no doubt that you will observe a
                        veritable sea of marbled scarves and ties, not a rock concert, but at the annual meeting of
                        the American Library Association, The American Institute for Conservation of Art and
                        Historic Artifacts, the Association of American Archivists, as well as just about any
                        antiquarian book dealer. Are these upstanding professionals promoting drug use if they
                        wear marbled apparel and accessories?

                        In conclusion, the insinuation that the marbled design shown on a tie was "psychedelic' is
                        extremely offensive to the good people who wear such ties on a regular or even occasional
                        basis, many of whom work in libraries and museums with rare books, archives, and
                        artifacts where one encounters historic marbled designs. However, even more importantly
                        is the fact that you do a distinct disservice to the people who continue to struggle to
                        perpetuate the historic tradition of marbling. Many sell their handmade products for a
                        living at respectable institutions. It is not a highly lucrative endeavor, as it can take many
                        years to develop skill and consistency. Aside from retail apparel, marbled papers are still
                        used for bookbinding and restoration all over the country, including many respectable rare
                        book libraries, museums, and institutions.

                        It is sad that we must necessarily expect that many Americans will now forgo hand-
                        marbled products made by American craftspeople because they will think they have
                        something to do with using drugs. The only reason they will come to this conclusion is
                        not because of any FACTS whatsoever, but only because of your stupid commercial! Your
                        poor choice of an object to feature as "psychedelic" in your commercial will have
                        unforeseen repercussions Next time you want to feature drugs in someone's past, why use
                        something MORE AUTHENTIC??? Like a TIE-DYED T-SHIRT!!! Or an old 60's psychedelic
                        concert poster???

                        To me, your portrayal of the man going through his closet seemed at first as if he was
                        going to wear a tie he bought in 1985 at an upscale craft gallery, not something off the
                        street in 1965 Haight-Ashbury, much less a rock concert! I really doubt that many hippies
                        were wearing these ties, as from what I remember, men swore off ties much like women
                        burned their bras. If you wore a tie you were definitely "establishment". Only "squares"
                        wore ties. If you study the apparent trends, you must necessarily concede that that the
                        marbled tie is predominantly a form of 1980's YUPPIE ATTIRE!!!!

                        It is also interesting that some are exploring marbling as a unique form of art therapy for
                        children, terminally ill, mental patients, and the elderly. The results have been initially
                        very promising and noteworthy. Even the act of marbling is shown to cause a person to
                        become very relaxed, happy, and satisfied. Since your organization has taken it upon
                        yourselves to produce such a commercial, I think it only fitting that you should studio art
                        programs as alternatives to using drugs for kids! You should sponsor studies to see if
                        marbling would be a useful form of art therapy in drug prevention and rehabilitation
                        programs?

                        Jake Benson






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                      • Gail MacKenzie
                        RIGHT ON JAKE!! Thanks for taking the time to write a very well phrased letter that speaks for all of us. Thank you. Where could I go to find this
                        Message 11 of 11 , Jan 23, 2006
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                          RIGHT ON JAKE!! Thanks for taking the time to write a very well phrased
                          letter that speaks for all of us. Thank you. Where could I go to find
                          this offensive commercial? Regards, Gail


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