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  • Caroline Tigeress
    ... I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone has had any
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      Laura Sims wrote:

      >Hello Donna,
      >
      >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
      >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
      >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
      >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
      >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
      >with acrylics.
      >
      >
      I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have
      liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone
      has had any sucess in marbling silk?

      Caroline
    • gretchen vansant
      Caroline,I,ve been lurking here for a few years ,mostly because I,ve never marbled paper. I am a fabric marbler.I,ve marbled everything from silk to
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        Caroline,I,ve been lurking here for a few years ,mostly because I,ve never marbled paper. I am a fabric marbler.I,ve marbled everything from silk to corduroy. Alot of fabrics work,the smoother,silkier the better.I,m sure canvas would work if you smooth it out first.Washing, or an electric piller work great at times for me. But its not always the material,its your bath,or size,and the paints you use,Its the correct combination that makes it 'work'.All I can say is experiment ,experiment,its a "beautiful thing'. peace Gretchen marbledfabric.com

        Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@...> wrote: Laura Sims wrote:

        >Hello Donna,
        >
        >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
        >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
        >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
        >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
        >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
        >with acrylics.
        >
        >
        I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have
        liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone
        has had any sucess in marbling silk?

        Caroline



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      • Brent Mydland
        You should have very GOOD luck using silk. It usually always works, its very expensive but worth it. Remember not to iron or heat set until you have
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          You should have very GOOD luck using silk.

          It usually always works, its very expensive but worth it.

          Remember not to iron or heat set until you have nuetralized/removed the alum from the fabric or it will turn into a strong acid and desinegrate the fiber, just a slight hand wash shjould do it drip dry.

          If your still not sure I can help ya make a nuertal solution.

          Marble the silk and post the results! Cant wait! enjoy!

          JBG



          Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@...> wrote: Laura Sims wrote:

          >Hello Donna,
          >
          >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
          >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
          >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
          >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
          >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
          >with acrylics.
          >
          >
          I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have
          liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone
          has had any sucess in marbling silk?

          Caroline



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        • Laura Sims
          Dear Caroline, True Blue Art Store in Asheville, NC, 828-251-0028 and Arrowmont School of Arts & Crafts, Gatlinburg, TN, 865-436-5860 ext.25 (Bonnie) sell a
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            Dear Caroline,

            True Blue Art Store in Asheville, NC, 828-251-0028 and
            Arrowmont School of Arts & Crafts, Gatlinburg, TN,
            865-436-5860 ext.25 (Bonnie) sell a close weave,
            smooth surface canvas that will work. As for silks,
            taffeta, Thai silks (not the company)and silk noils
            (raw silk) can be tricky, but the others work well.
            Thai Silk, 1-800-722-SILK is a good place to start.
            They have yardage and scarf blanks.

            I use Golden on methyl cellulose if you want to try
            that sometime.

            Good Luck, Laura
            Indigo Stone

            --- Brent Mydland <jbg78734@...> wrote:

            >
            > You should have very GOOD luck using silk.
            >
            > It usually always works, its very expensive but
            > worth it.
            >
            > Remember not to iron or heat set until you have
            > nuetralized/removed the alum from the fabric or it
            > will turn into a strong acid and desinegrate the
            > fiber, just a slight hand wash shjould do it drip
            > dry.
            >
            > If your still not sure I can help ya make a nuertal
            > solution.
            >
            > Marble the silk and post the results! Cant wait!
            > enjoy!
            >
            > JBG
            >
            >
            >
            > Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@...> wrote:
            > Laura Sims wrote:
            >
            > >Hello Donna,
            > >
            > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do
            > not
            > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
            > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
            > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
            > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
            > >with acrylics.
            > >
            > >
            > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as
            > sucessful as I would have
            > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was
            > wondering if anyone
            > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
            >
            > Caroline
            >
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          • Angela Drake
            Caroline, Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors beautifully. I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how I
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              Caroline,

              Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
              beautifully.

              I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
              I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
              would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
              start.

              Angie


              --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
              wrote:
              > Laura Sims wrote:
              >
              > >Hello Donna,
              > >
              > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
              > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
              > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
              > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
              > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
              > >with acrylics.
              > >
              > >
              > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
              have
              > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
              anyone
              > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
              >
              > Caroline
            • Brent Mydland
              Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90! That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as
              Message 6 of 22 , Aug 20, 2004
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                Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!

                That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!

                Peace and Love Johnny



                Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,

                Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                beautifully.

                I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                start.

                Angie


                --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                wrote:
                > Laura Sims wrote:
                >
                > >Hello Donna,
                > >
                > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                > >with acrylics.
                > >
                > >
                > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                have
                > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                anyone
                > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                >
                > Caroline


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              • gretchen vansant
                Johnney, I d be interested in your directions for mounting/ frameing. thanks gretchen Brent Mydland wrote: Yes, I have framed silk
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                  Johnney, I'd be interested in your directions for mounting/ frameing. thanks gretchen

                  Brent Mydland <jbg78734@...> wrote:
                  Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!

                  That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!

                  Peace and Love Johnny



                  Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,

                  Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                  beautifully.

                  I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                  I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                  would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                  start.

                  Angie


                  --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                  wrote:
                  > Laura Sims wrote:
                  >
                  > >Hello Donna,
                  > >
                  > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                  > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                  > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                  > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                  > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                  > >with acrylics.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                  have
                  > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                  anyone
                  > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                  >
                  > Caroline


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                • Caroline Tigeress
                  I have interest in this. Can it be stretched like an oil canvas on a wood frame? Like a gallery wrap? Caroline
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                    I have interest in this. Can it be stretched like an oil canvas on
                    a wood frame? Like a gallery wrap?

                    Caroline


                    Brent Mydland wrote:

                    >Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!
                    >
                    >That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!
                    >
                    >Peace and Love Johnny
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,
                    >
                    >Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                    >beautifully.
                    >
                    >I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                    >I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                    >would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                    >start.
                    >
                    >Angie
                    >
                    >
                    >--- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                    >wrote:
                    >
                    >
                    >>Laura Sims wrote:
                    >>
                    >>
                    >>
                    >>>Hello Donna,
                    >>>
                    >>>A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                    >>>was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                    >>>solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                    >>>the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                    >>>come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                    >>>with acrylics.
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >> I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                    >>
                    >>
                    >have
                    >
                    >
                    >>liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                    >>
                    >>
                    >anyone
                    >
                    >
                    >>has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                    >>
                    >> Caroline
                    >>
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                  • marblehead@iwon.com
                    Johnny, I d love to see these instructions. Thanks, Ann ... From: Brent Mydland [mailto: jbg78734@yahoo.com] To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug
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                      Johnny, I'd love to see these instructions.

                      Thanks,

                      Ann




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                      Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!<BR>
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                      Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,<BR>
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                      Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors <BR>
                      beautifully.<BR>
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                      I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how <BR>
                      I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them <BR>
                      would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to <BR>
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                    • Angela Drake
                      Johnny, Thanks so much! I think there is enough interest to share the info with all but will also email you off-line! Angie ... it so that its archival as I
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                        Johnny,

                        Thanks so much! I think there is enough interest to share the info
                        with all but will also email you off-line!

                        Angie

                        --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Brent Mydland <jbg78734@y...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!
                        >
                        > That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount
                        it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that
                        mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping.
                        Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak
                        up if there is enough interest!
                        >
                        > Peace and Love Johnny
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Angela Drake <angiedrake@h...> wrote: Caroline,
                        >
                        > Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                        > beautifully.
                        >
                        > I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and
                        how
                        > I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of
                        them
                        > would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                        > start.
                        >
                        > Angie
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress
                        <c.tigeress@c...>
                        > wrote:
                        > > Laura Sims wrote:
                        > >
                        > > >Hello Donna,
                        > > >
                        > > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                        > > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                        > > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                        > > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                        > > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                        > > >with acrylics.
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I
                        would
                        > have
                        > > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                        > anyone
                        > > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                        > >
                        > > Caroline
                        >
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                      • Brent Mydland
                        I have made contact with teacher and am getting the info together, I will be back in a day or two with the news. Thanks Johnny Brent Mydland
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                          I have made contact with teacher and am getting the info together,

                          I will be back in a day or two with the news.

                          Thanks Johnny



                          Brent Mydland <jbg78734@...> wrote:
                          Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!

                          That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!

                          Peace and Love Johnny



                          Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,

                          Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                          beautifully.

                          I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                          I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                          would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                          start.

                          Angie


                          --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                          wrote:
                          > Laura Sims wrote:
                          >
                          > >Hello Donna,
                          > >
                          > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                          > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                          > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                          > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                          > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                          > >with acrylics.
                          > >
                          > >
                          > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                          have
                          > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                          anyone
                          > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                          >
                          > Caroline


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                          I would like instructions too. Thanks, Angel ... it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not
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                            I would like instructions too.

                            Thanks,

                            Angel


                            > Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!<BR>
                            > <BR>
                            > That is truly where  it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount
                            it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that
                            mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping.
                            Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak
                            up if there is enough interest!<BR>
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