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  • enigmaticmatrix
    I am totally addicted to marbling. I wish I had the knowledge to answer all the questions about marbling to help others. But I don t. People have been marbling
    Message 1 of 22 , Jul 27, 2004
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      I am totally addicted to marbling. I wish I had the knowledge to
      answer all the questions about marbling to help others. But I don't.
      People have been marbling for eons...

      As far as oil marbling goes, I tried it with the liquid oils also,
      and got the oil slick on the water also. I tried thinning the tube
      oils with mineral spirits, but they either made a big oil slick on
      the water or turned into little "boogers" and sank. Anyhow, I did
      give up because the fumes started to get to me.

      Which brings out my next point. Marbling with acrylic paints and
      watercolors is NOT toxic(as far as I know). Everybody's body is
      different, so I'm not saying that it's not possible for you to have a
      reaction. The methyl cel and carrageenan are used in certain foods.
      Acrylic paints are safe as long as you use caution while using them.

      The only thing I can tell you, especially if you have a lot of money
      invested in this art-form (as I do) is to experiment.

      I have wanted to marble on canvas for years, and actually tried it
      once about 10 years ago. That was my failure, I only tried it once.
      So, guess what I did? After TEN YEARS!!!! I marbled a piece of canvas
      yesterday. It didn't turn out the way I wanted it to, (it looked
      terrible) but I'm going to try again.

      It came out kinda interesting, but not all that good. It had lots of
      hesitation marks and air bubbles in it. When I rinsed it, the color
      rinsed away in unattractive splotches and left intense areas, and
      pale patches on the canvas.

      If anyone else tries marbling on canvas, let me know how it works for
      you.

      I believe the main thing about the art of marbling is to not give up.

      Donna
    • del.mary.stubbs
      Hi everyone - I have been curious about this for a long time..... I understand how dry air affects marbling, as it can actually dry the paints out while on
      Message 2 of 22 , Jul 27, 2004
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        Hi everyone -

        I have been curious about this for a long time.....

        I understand how dry air affects marbling, as it can actually dry the paints
        out while on the bath.

        However, what I have not been able to asses, is how high humidity affects
        marbling. I use carageenan, and mostly Golden acrylics.

        Thanks! Mary Celine Thouin (Stubbs)
      • Sonja Idema
        I just taught a marbling class at a college at the beginning of this month and the students and I experimented with a lot of different media to marble. We
        Message 3 of 22 , Jul 27, 2004
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          I just taught a marbling class at a college at the beginning of this month and the students and I experimented with a lot of different media to marble. We tried heavy duty painter's canvas cut into pieces and that when soaking it in alum, it gave off a putrid odor...somewhat like uric acid (okay, like someone couldn't get to the bathroom in time!!)
          We also found that when we marbled it, it did the same thing that you found happen..."the color rinsed away in unattractive splotches and left intense areas, and pale patches on the canvas".
          We also marbled pieces in various thicknesses from that thick canvas to a sheer fine quilter's cotton and 100% silk scarves.
          We found that the thinner the material, the more defined and intense the marbling was.
          I'm not sure if that helps or not, but it sure showed us a thing or two!
          Sonja (in Canada)


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: enigmaticmatrix
          To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:22 PM
          Subject: [Marbling] Marbling on Canvas


          I am totally addicted to marbling. I wish I had the knowledge to
          answer all the questions about marbling to help others. But I don't.
          People have been marbling for eons...

          As far as oil marbling goes, I tried it with the liquid oils also,
          and got the oil slick on the water also. I tried thinning the tube
          oils with mineral spirits, but they either made a big oil slick on
          the water or turned into little "boogers" and sank. Anyhow, I did
          give up because the fumes started to get to me.

          Which brings out my next point. Marbling with acrylic paints and
          watercolors is NOT toxic(as far as I know). Everybody's body is
          different, so I'm not saying that it's not possible for you to have a
          reaction. The methyl cel and carrageenan are used in certain foods.
          Acrylic paints are safe as long as you use caution while using them.

          The only thing I can tell you, especially if you have a lot of money
          invested in this art-form (as I do) is to experiment.

          I have wanted to marble on canvas for years, and actually tried it
          once about 10 years ago. That was my failure, I only tried it once.
          So, guess what I did? After TEN YEARS!!!! I marbled a piece of canvas
          yesterday. It didn't turn out the way I wanted it to, (it looked
          terrible) but I'm going to try again.

          It came out kinda interesting, but not all that good. It had lots of
          hesitation marks and air bubbles in it. When I rinsed it, the color
          rinsed away in unattractive splotches and left intense areas, and
          pale patches on the canvas.

          If anyone else tries marbling on canvas, let me know how it works for
          you.

          I believe the main thing about the art of marbling is to not give up.

          Donna


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        • Gail MacKenzie
          After years of working on fabric...and having more and more problems: I have decided that fabrics are going through the same changes as paper has been
          Message 4 of 22 , Jul 27, 2004
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            After years of working on fabric...and having more and more problems: I
            have decided that fabrics are going through the same changes as paper has
            been undergoing. Meaning that more and different finishes and fillers are
            being used. So, Now I prewash everything. I presoak for 1-2 hours with
            cold water in the washing machine with about 1 tablespoon of Simple Green to
            a tub full of cold water. Spin, refill and rinse, spin, refill and rinse
            than line or machine dry depending on the fabric. I hope this is helpful
            Best wishes, Gail


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          • Guffey
            Hi I don t know about anyone else, but I have my best results when the humidity is high, especially a cool rainy day. But then I have the advantage of living
            Message 5 of 22 , Jul 27, 2004
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              Hi

              I don't know about anyone else, but I have my best results when the humidity
              is high, especially a cool rainy day. But then I have the advantage of
              living in a very temperate climate where year round temperature is around 65
              degrees (hottest official record of 86 degrees!) so I can't say how hot
              weather and high humidity affect marbling. I use blender carraghean and
              Liquitex acrylics with very fine results.

              D. Guffey
              Eureka, CA



              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "del.mary.stubbs" <mdstubbs@...>
              To: <Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:01 PM
              Subject: [Marbling] humidity and marbling


              > Hi everyone -
              >
              > I have been curious about this for a long time.....
              >
              > I understand how dry air affects marbling, as it can actually dry the
              paints
              > out while on the bath.
              >
              > However, what I have not been able to asses, is how high humidity affects
              > marbling. I use carageenan, and mostly Golden acrylics.
              >
              > Thanks! Mary Celine Thouin (Stubbs)
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
            • hamburgerbuntpapier_de
              Hi Dolores-Both humidity and temperatures give helping hands to chemical reactions, sl= owing or quickening them. I find the affects vary a lot with the
              Message 6 of 22 , Jul 28, 2004
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                Hi Dolores-

                Both humidity and temperatures give helping hands to chemical reactions, sl=
                owing or
                quickening them.
                I find the affects vary a lot with the patterns I make and the techniques I=
                use. Paste paper
                making is at its best with humidity above 70% and temperature below 25°C (p=
                aste dries
                slower and with less effects on the base paper), while sprinkling has its h=
                eyday below 50%
                and 18°C (airborn paints don't meet up with millions of droplets on their w=
                ay down to the
                sheet). My 'coldest' pattern is called 'Snowballs', I do it only on cold, d=
                ry, windless winter's
                days with the window open; and a woolen sweater beneath the overalls. Last =
                summer was
                exceptionally hot with temperatures round about 30°C and humidity below 50%=
                for weeks.
                I did not produce one single sheet during those weeks, the same applied to =
                my marbling
                colleague.

                A marbler from Mexico told he has a humidifier going while he marbles.

                I've heard colleagues talking about having air conditioning installed, but =
                I am not sure
                about the wiseness of the idea. Apart from the cost, air conditioning tends=
                to produce
                drafts, and that's about the last thing one needs.

                Paper decorating is done in various techniques in many places world wide, t=
                herefore the
                techniques seem to be adaptable to many climates. Provided the decorators a=
                re pigheaded
                and patient.

                Susanne Krause

                --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, "Guffey" <dguff@h...> wrote:
                > Hi
                >
                > I don't know about anyone else, but I have my best results when the humid=
                ity
                > is high, especially a cool rainy day. But then I have the advantage of
                > living in a very temperate climate where year round temperature is around=
                65
                > degrees (hottest official record of 86 degrees!) so I can't say how hot
                > weather and high humidity affect marbling. I use blender carraghean and
                > Liquitex acrylics with very fine results.
                >
                > D. Guffey
                > Eureka, CA
                >
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "del.mary.stubbs" <mdstubbs@p...>
                > To: <Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
                > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:01 PM
                > Subject: [Marbling] humidity and marbling
                >
                >
                > > Hi everyone -
                > >
                > > I have been curious about this for a long time.....
                > >
                > > I understand how dry air affects marbling, as it can actually dry the
                > paints
                > > out while on the bath.
                > >
                > > However, what I have not been able to asses, is how high humidity affec=
                ts
                > > marbling. I use carageenan, and mostly Golden acrylics.
                > >
                > > Thanks! Mary Celine Thouin (Stubbs)
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
              • gretchen vansant
                When marbling fabrics I find high humidity is bad. I work in my garage,so sometimes I ll stop by the afternoon,wait for the sun to go down.I ll cool down the
                Message 7 of 22 , Jul 28, 2004
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                  When marbling fabrics I find high humidity is bad. I work in my garage,so sometimes I'll stop by the afternoon,wait for the sun to go down.I'll cool down the room ,sometimes I'll even put my hand through the vat to cool it down,then start up again! I work with methol,and air brush acrylics. Good luck gretchen

                  "del.mary.stubbs" <mdstubbs@...> wrote:Hi everyone -

                  I have been curious about this for a long time.....

                  I understand how dry air affects marbling, as it can actually dry the paints
                  out while on the bath.

                  However, what I have not been able to asses, is how high humidity affects
                  marbling. I use carageenan, and mostly Golden acrylics.

                  Thanks! Mary Celine Thouin (Stubbs)


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                • Laura Sims
                  Hello Donna, A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my
                  Message 8 of 22 , Aug 16, 2004
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                    Hello Donna,

                    A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                    was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                    solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                    the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                    come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                    with acrylics.

                    Good luck,
                    Laura
                    Indigo Stone
                    --- enigmaticmatrix <Weshabak@...> wrote:

                    > I am totally addicted to marbling. I wish I had the
                    > knowledge to
                    > answer all the questions about marbling to help
                    > others. But I don't.
                    > People have been marbling for eons...
                    >
                    > As far as oil marbling goes, I tried it with the
                    > liquid oils also,
                    > and got the oil slick on the water also. I tried
                    > thinning the tube
                    > oils with mineral spirits, but they either made a
                    > big oil slick on
                    > the water or turned into little "boogers" and sank.
                    > Anyhow, I did
                    > give up because the fumes started to get to me.
                    >
                    > Which brings out my next point. Marbling with
                    > acrylic paints and
                    > watercolors is NOT toxic(as far as I know).
                    > Everybody's body is
                    > different, so I'm not saying that it's not possible
                    > for you to have a
                    > reaction. The methyl cel and carrageenan are used in
                    > certain foods.
                    > Acrylic paints are safe as long as you use caution
                    > while using them.
                    >
                    > The only thing I can tell you, especially if you
                    > have a lot of money
                    > invested in this art-form (as I do) is to
                    > experiment.
                    >
                    > I have wanted to marble on canvas for years, and
                    > actually tried it
                    > once about 10 years ago. That was my failure, I only
                    > tried it once.
                    > So, guess what I did? After TEN YEARS!!!! I marbled
                    > a piece of canvas
                    > yesterday. It didn't turn out the way I wanted it
                    > to, (it looked
                    > terrible) but I'm going to try again.
                    >
                    > It came out kinda interesting, but not all that
                    > good. It had lots of
                    > hesitation marks and air bubbles in it. When I
                    > rinsed it, the color
                    > rinsed away in unattractive splotches and left
                    > intense areas, and
                    > pale patches on the canvas.
                    >
                    > If anyone else tries marbling on canvas, let me know
                    > how it works for
                    > you.
                    >
                    > I believe the main thing about the art of marbling
                    > is to not give up.
                    >
                    > Donna
                    >
                    >
                    >




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                  • Caroline Tigeress
                    ... I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone has had any
                    Message 9 of 22 , Aug 16, 2004
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                      Laura Sims wrote:

                      >Hello Donna,
                      >
                      >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                      >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                      >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                      >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                      >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                      >with acrylics.
                      >
                      >
                      I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have
                      liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone
                      has had any sucess in marbling silk?

                      Caroline
                    • gretchen vansant
                      Caroline,I,ve been lurking here for a few years ,mostly because I,ve never marbled paper. I am a fabric marbler.I,ve marbled everything from silk to
                      Message 10 of 22 , Aug 16, 2004
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                        Caroline,I,ve been lurking here for a few years ,mostly because I,ve never marbled paper. I am a fabric marbler.I,ve marbled everything from silk to corduroy. Alot of fabrics work,the smoother,silkier the better.I,m sure canvas would work if you smooth it out first.Washing, or an electric piller work great at times for me. But its not always the material,its your bath,or size,and the paints you use,Its the correct combination that makes it 'work'.All I can say is experiment ,experiment,its a "beautiful thing'. peace Gretchen marbledfabric.com

                        Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@...> wrote: Laura Sims wrote:

                        >Hello Donna,
                        >
                        >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                        >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                        >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                        >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                        >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                        >with acrylics.
                        >
                        >
                        I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have
                        liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone
                        has had any sucess in marbling silk?

                        Caroline



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                      • Brent Mydland
                        You should have very GOOD luck using silk. It usually always works, its very expensive but worth it. Remember not to iron or heat set until you have
                        Message 11 of 22 , Aug 17, 2004
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                          You should have very GOOD luck using silk.

                          It usually always works, its very expensive but worth it.

                          Remember not to iron or heat set until you have nuetralized/removed the alum from the fabric or it will turn into a strong acid and desinegrate the fiber, just a slight hand wash shjould do it drip dry.

                          If your still not sure I can help ya make a nuertal solution.

                          Marble the silk and post the results! Cant wait! enjoy!

                          JBG



                          Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@...> wrote: Laura Sims wrote:

                          >Hello Donna,
                          >
                          >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                          >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                          >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                          >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                          >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                          >with acrylics.
                          >
                          >
                          I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would have
                          liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if anyone
                          has had any sucess in marbling silk?

                          Caroline



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                        • Laura Sims
                          Dear Caroline, True Blue Art Store in Asheville, NC, 828-251-0028 and Arrowmont School of Arts & Crafts, Gatlinburg, TN, 865-436-5860 ext.25 (Bonnie) sell a
                          Message 12 of 22 , Aug 17, 2004
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                            Dear Caroline,

                            True Blue Art Store in Asheville, NC, 828-251-0028 and
                            Arrowmont School of Arts & Crafts, Gatlinburg, TN,
                            865-436-5860 ext.25 (Bonnie) sell a close weave,
                            smooth surface canvas that will work. As for silks,
                            taffeta, Thai silks (not the company)and silk noils
                            (raw silk) can be tricky, but the others work well.
                            Thai Silk, 1-800-722-SILK is a good place to start.
                            They have yardage and scarf blanks.

                            I use Golden on methyl cellulose if you want to try
                            that sometime.

                            Good Luck, Laura
                            Indigo Stone

                            --- Brent Mydland <jbg78734@...> wrote:

                            >
                            > You should have very GOOD luck using silk.
                            >
                            > It usually always works, its very expensive but
                            > worth it.
                            >
                            > Remember not to iron or heat set until you have
                            > nuetralized/removed the alum from the fabric or it
                            > will turn into a strong acid and desinegrate the
                            > fiber, just a slight hand wash shjould do it drip
                            > dry.
                            >
                            > If your still not sure I can help ya make a nuertal
                            > solution.
                            >
                            > Marble the silk and post the results! Cant wait!
                            > enjoy!
                            >
                            > JBG
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@...> wrote:
                            > Laura Sims wrote:
                            >
                            > >Hello Donna,
                            > >
                            > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do
                            > not
                            > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                            > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                            > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                            > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                            > >with acrylics.
                            > >
                            > >
                            > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as
                            > sucessful as I would have
                            > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was
                            > wondering if anyone
                            > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                            >
                            > Caroline
                            >
                            >
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                          • Angela Drake
                            Caroline, Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors beautifully. I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how I
                            Message 13 of 22 , Aug 20, 2004
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                              Caroline,

                              Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                              beautifully.

                              I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                              I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                              would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                              start.

                              Angie


                              --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                              wrote:
                              > Laura Sims wrote:
                              >
                              > >Hello Donna,
                              > >
                              > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                              > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                              > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                              > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                              > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                              > >with acrylics.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                              have
                              > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                              anyone
                              > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                              >
                              > Caroline
                            • Brent Mydland
                              Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90! That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as
                              Message 14 of 22 , Aug 20, 2004
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                                Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!

                                That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!

                                Peace and Love Johnny



                                Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,

                                Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                                beautifully.

                                I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                                I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                                would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                                start.

                                Angie


                                --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                                wrote:
                                > Laura Sims wrote:
                                >
                                > >Hello Donna,
                                > >
                                > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                                > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                                > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                                > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                                > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                                > >with acrylics.
                                > >
                                > >
                                > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                                have
                                > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                                anyone
                                > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                                >
                                > Caroline


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                              • gretchen vansant
                                Johnney, I d be interested in your directions for mounting/ frameing. thanks gretchen Brent Mydland wrote: Yes, I have framed silk
                                Message 15 of 22 , Aug 20, 2004
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                                  Johnney, I'd be interested in your directions for mounting/ frameing. thanks gretchen

                                  Brent Mydland <jbg78734@...> wrote:
                                  Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!

                                  That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!

                                  Peace and Love Johnny



                                  Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,

                                  Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                                  beautifully.

                                  I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                                  I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                                  would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                                  start.

                                  Angie


                                  --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                                  wrote:
                                  > Laura Sims wrote:
                                  >
                                  > >Hello Donna,
                                  > >
                                  > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                                  > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                                  > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                                  > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                                  > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                                  > >with acrylics.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                                  have
                                  > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                                  anyone
                                  > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                                  >
                                  > Caroline


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                                • Caroline Tigeress
                                  I have interest in this. Can it be stretched like an oil canvas on a wood frame? Like a gallery wrap? Caroline
                                  Message 16 of 22 , Aug 20, 2004
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                                    I have interest in this. Can it be stretched like an oil canvas on
                                    a wood frame? Like a gallery wrap?

                                    Caroline


                                    Brent Mydland wrote:

                                    >Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!
                                    >
                                    >That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!
                                    >
                                    >Peace and Love Johnny
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,
                                    >
                                    >Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                                    >beautifully.
                                    >
                                    >I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                                    >I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                                    >would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                                    >start.
                                    >
                                    >Angie
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >--- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                                    >wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >>Laura Sims wrote:
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >>>Hello Donna,
                                    >>>
                                    >>>A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                                    >>>was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                                    >>>solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                                    >>>the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                                    >>>come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                                    >>>with acrylics.
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >>>
                                    >> I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >have
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >>liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >anyone
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >>has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                                    >>
                                    >> Caroline
                                    >>
                                    >>
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                                  • marblehead@iwon.com
                                    Johnny, I d love to see these instructions. Thanks, Ann ... From: Brent Mydland [mailto: jbg78734@yahoo.com] To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug
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                                      Johnny, I'd love to see these instructions.

                                      Thanks,

                                      Ann




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                                      Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!<BR>
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                                      Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,<BR>
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                                      Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors <BR>
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                                      I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how <BR>
                                      I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them <BR>
                                      would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to <BR>
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                                      > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum<BR>
                                      > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.).� With my hand I press<BR>
                                      > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles <BR>
                                      > >come out of the canvas.� Drip dry, iron and marble<BR>
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                                    • Angela Drake
                                      Johnny, Thanks so much! I think there is enough interest to share the info with all but will also email you off-line! Angie ... it so that its archival as I
                                      Message 18 of 22 , Aug 23, 2004
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                                        Johnny,

                                        Thanks so much! I think there is enough interest to share the info
                                        with all but will also email you off-line!

                                        Angie

                                        --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Brent Mydland <jbg78734@y...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!
                                        >
                                        > That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount
                                        it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that
                                        mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping.
                                        Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak
                                        up if there is enough interest!
                                        >
                                        > Peace and Love Johnny
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Angela Drake <angiedrake@h...> wrote: Caroline,
                                        >
                                        > Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                                        > beautifully.
                                        >
                                        > I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and
                                        how
                                        > I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of
                                        them
                                        > would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                                        > start.
                                        >
                                        > Angie
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress
                                        <c.tigeress@c...>
                                        > wrote:
                                        > > Laura Sims wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > >Hello Donna,
                                        > > >
                                        > > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                                        > > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                                        > > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                                        > > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                                        > > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                                        > > >with acrylics.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I
                                        would
                                        > have
                                        > > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                                        > anyone
                                        > > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                                        > >
                                        > > Caroline
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                                      • Brent Mydland
                                        I have made contact with teacher and am getting the info together, I will be back in a day or two with the news. Thanks Johnny Brent Mydland
                                        Message 19 of 22 , Aug 23, 2004
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                                          I have made contact with teacher and am getting the info together,

                                          I will be back in a day or two with the news.

                                          Thanks Johnny



                                          Brent Mydland <jbg78734@...> wrote:
                                          Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!

                                          That is truly where it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping. Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak up if there is enough interest!

                                          Peace and Love Johnny



                                          Angela Drake <angiedrake@...> wrote: Caroline,

                                          Marbling on silk is great fun... it picks up patterns and colors
                                          beautifully.

                                          I was wondering if anyone had framed any silk marbling pieces and how
                                          I would go about it... I've marbled lots of scarves but some of them
                                          would make great pieces to hang on a wall but I'm not sure where to
                                          start.

                                          Angie


                                          --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Caroline Tigeress <c.tigeress@c...>
                                          wrote:
                                          > Laura Sims wrote:
                                          >
                                          > >Hello Donna,
                                          > >
                                          > >A smooth surface canvas seems to work best. I do not
                                          > >was the canvas, but lay it flat in a tray of alum
                                          > >solution (1/2 cup to 1 gal.). With my hand I press
                                          > >the solution into the canvas until no more bubbles
                                          > >come out of the canvas. Drip dry, iron and marble
                                          > >with acrylics.
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > I just tried it yesterday. It was not as sucessful as I would
                                          have
                                          > liked, I used golden acrylics and carageenan. I was wondering if
                                          anyone
                                          > has had any sucess in marbling silk?
                                          >
                                          > Caroline


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                                        • angel_100_100
                                          I would like instructions too. Thanks, Angel ... it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not
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                                            I would like instructions too.

                                            Thanks,

                                            Angel


                                            > Yes, I have framed silk starting with my very first piece1-1-90!<BR>
                                            > <BR>
                                            > That is truly where  it belongs. I can tell you how to museum mount
                                            it so that its archival as I learned to frame from an artist that
                                            mounts art for the Smithsonian...I am not bragging just helping.
                                            Email off line or I will set up instuctions for the whole group!Speak
                                            up if there is enough interest!<BR>
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