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Ynt: [Marbling] Digest Number 738

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  • Oguzhan Tugrul
    Mit eine bluete, wird s nicht fruehling ! cannot have spring, with one bloom ! Nedim Sonmez has been doing more than his share up until now. I was actually
    Message 1 of 1 , Mar 17, 2004
      Mit eine bluete,
      wird's nicht fruehling !

      cannot have spring,
      with one bloom !

      Nedim Sonmez has been doing more than his share
      up until now.

      I was actually referring to the local Ebru world in Istanbul,
      and expecting suggestions,protests,criticisms
      from the people concerned here.

      I guess there are more shepherd candidates
      than the marbling sheep here.

      The mellow marbling meadows of Turkey,
      are like the wild steppes of Central Asia
      with scattered oases of marbling gurus,

      and the tradition is like a mirage

      you may see now,
      and then not !

      shall we ameliorate in Turkey ?

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
      To: <Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:16 PM
      Subject: [Marbling] Digest Number 738

      There are 2 messages in this issue.

      Topics in this digest:

      1. Turkish Ebru artists+masters :AMELIORATE !
      From: "Oguzhan Tugrul" <uygur13@...>
      2. Ebru
      From: "hamburgerbuntpapier_de" <hamburgerbuntpapier@...>


      Message: 1
      Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:02:15 +0200
      From: "Oguzhan Tugrul" <uygur13@...>
      Subject: Turkish Ebru artists+masters :AMELIORATE !

      esteemed friends,
      I would like to think that
      this is the only (to me ) online international forum

      (expressing gratitude to the list founders !)

      where some Marbling Society members
      and non-members (yet!) can communicate.

      Last year I sent information on Yavuz Tiryaki's book
      which claimed no article to have been published on Ebru
      in the past 6 or 7 decades ! in Turkey.

      We are already in the 3rd month o f the year 2004,
      when will ebru be officially recorded in Turkish archives
      where it is said to be at home
      at the shores of sea of Marble (Marmara Sea)!

      I would consider myself immature to attempt this
      in terms of marbling,
      but we have enough candidates
      internationally acknowledged masters of the metier.

      Somehow I also believe
      it is the responsibility of those masters
      to further promote and inform the interested marbling world
      on what is happening locally in Turkey,
      and this yahoo group seems to be a perfect place to do this kind of data

      Thanks to Marie Palowoda,
      and whoever is helping her

      we have a bulletin

      which in near future might be a monthly magazine
      with pin ups of the masters ! works as centerfolds,

      and at a time when Ms.Phoebe is
      parting from her Ink andGall collection
      (which Turkish libraries should have bought for their archives!)

      it is very meaningful indeed.

      What a shame we never had a similar magazine
      in Turkey for the past couple of hundred years,
      or a society of calligraphers,
      since Ottomans boast to have the best calligraphers
      for ages ...

      and instead of inviting world marblers to join our
      centuries old Ebru Society ,
      (there was none !)
      we ended up joining our friends in the USA.

      Our American friends are better organized,
      to find the common denominators they have come up with standards,
      and they take life and what they do seriously,
      contemporary and scientific...

      Recent marbling exhibitions in Istanbul:

      Osman Shimshek ,is self taught,does oil marbling on canvas and textile.

      The exhibition was at Istanbul Municipality CRR Gallery.
      Famous fashion designer Cemil Ipekci had a small fashion show
      using marbled textiles,
      Fuad Baser,Ayla Makas,Yilmaz Enes were some marblers I could see.

      By the way Osman's marbled designs are the same as Hikmet's once original
      Barut marble,
      so there is not much of a monopoly of design left for the time being.

      The other exhibition is at www.ircica.org
      at the Yildiz Palace,
      Miss Eda Ozbekkangay will be exhibiting her works,
      Fuad Baser told me that she was related/grandchild of someone from the
      Ozbekler Tekke,
      a dervish order famous for marblers in Uskudar -asian side of Istanbul.

      Since none of you will attend,but for the sake of archives:
      at a conference organized by Marmara University,
      Mr.Ahmet Yuksel Ozemre will present a paper on
      'The Art of Ebru in Uskudar' Scutary:english version

      The title of my message :
      AMELIORATE is a new word that I learned,
      and if I do not use the new things accumulated
      they tend to be forgotten !

      It means TO IMPROVE ...
      and Turkish Ebru world
      may need fresh make up
      on the old face
      or a new uplift !

      if we donot practise healthy criticism of ourselves,
      the distance between us and the world is growing
      due to lack of dedication,devotion,and surrendering love !
      add to that indifference by the pound !

      where is Turkish ebru ?


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      Message: 2
      Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:17:29 -0000
      From: "hamburgerbuntpapier_de" <hamburgerbuntpapier@...>
      Subject: Ebru

      Not to worry, you're not alone.

      Nedim Sönmez, who lives in Tübingen, is working on something exciting just =
      now. And he
      does a lot for promoting Ebru in the West! He is also part of a team of exp=
      erts on
      decorated paper in general. Something is definitely happening.

      Decorated paper is such an old craft, a month or a year more or less does n=
      ot really make
      a difference.... don't rush. Too many sheets have been spoiled by haste.

      Susanne Krause


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