Re: [Marbling] Fix your troublesome size
- Hello, Cynthia -
I will be teaching a one-day class of fabric marbling on February 19th in
New Bern, North Carolina if you are interested in that area of the
southeast. If this is of any interest, please e-mail me and I will give
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:07:08 -0800 "Steve Bryant" <jsbryant@...>
> Hello, Does anyone know of a class/workshop in the southeast-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> region for marbling scarves or other fabrics? I've read books, etc,
> but I'd like the "hands-on" learning. thanks. Cynthia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: peggy skycraft
> To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:43 PM
> Subject: [Marbling] Fix your troublesome size
> Dear Angela:
> I have made thousands of exceptional scarves with very few
> Believe me, I have suffered through every problem there is.
> Try adding Calgon when the problem happens, with the broken
> and white spots. (Cherry blossems is my cute name for this.)
> a tablespoon in hot water and stir half into your marbling bath
> two gallons of size.) Test the size and if there is still a
> add the other part of the dissolved calgon and test again. I
> your problem will be solved. Once you know this, you can add
> (metaphosphate) before you begin marbling.
> There are chemical changes when alum gets in the size, but I
> worked for many days makeing hundreds of papers just adding
> fresh size
> and also calgon. I refrigerate the size overnight to avoic
> degradaton, which also causes similar problems. (colors
> Get Calgon (sodium hexemetaphosphate) from Pro Chemica, in
> Massechusetts, or from Rupert,Gibbon in Healdsburg. CA.I find it
> to be
> a true lifesaver. Saves one from throwing away that expensive
> I do not use Spectralite, but usually if there is too much
> acrylic (and the surfaactant that is in it) the problem would be
> the paints may start to sink and not spread ourt.
> Dry air is not the problem. I can do good marbling no matter what
> temprature or humidity is.
> Water too can be a problem. It should not be acid or too
> Calgon solves this too.
> Your tools can be scrubbed with Dutch Cleanser and a nail brush.
> well. One can also use isopropyl alcohol for a quick fix. I do
> think dirty tools is part of your problem if the tools and such
> used just for acrylic. I usually only have to clean everything
> if I
> want to use the setup for watercolor, which is not compatible
> acrylic at all.
> Newspaper for skimming is not a problem chemically.
> Use not more than 1 tablespoon of alum per cup of water. Silk
> can be
> dipped and then put in the washingmachin spin dryer. This
> evenly alumed scarves, with less possiblility of alum
> dissolvingf in
> the size.
> Lay the scarf down, check that all areas have contacted the
> Remove the scarf immediately and do not allow the gel to drip
> into the marbling tray. I drape them over a plastic pipe and
> with gently running warm water from a hose. Do not bucket them
> rinse as there is a good chance of pattern damage.
> Yours, Peggy Skycraft
> --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, DaveorRobin Olson
> > Dear Angela,
> > I also marble some scarves but I don,t think your
> > problen is limited to fabric marbling. I have had this
> > problem both with paper and fabric. I was told it is
> > contamination with alum. You need to clean your tank
> > better between scarves.Always use the directions on
> > the alum pakage to make your alum solution. This very
> > problem came up in a marbling workshop I took this
> > weekend .(paper)and I have given you the instructors
> > response. Good Luck.
> > Robin Olson, Chicago
> > --- Angela Drake <angiedrake@h...> wrote:
> > > The last few times I've marbled, my size becomes
> > > contaminated about
> > > my fifth scarf into a session. It leaves bumpy,
> > > blank spots in the
> > > pattern and makes it very difficult to comb. I use
> > > carrageenan as my
> > > size and Spectralite paints. I had thought that cold
> > > size was the
> > > problem, but no longer. I was marbling outside while
> > > the weather was
> > > good (I live in Nevada, so it lasted a while) but
> > > just moved my work
> > > indoors and am having the same problem and the
> > > temperature is about
> > > 70F. If my tools are contaminated in some way, how
> > > do I clean them?
> > > I have read that I shouldn't use soap as it may
> > > further contaminate
> > > the size. The air here is very dry and we have
> > > almost no humidity,
> > > even in the house. Would this be a factor? Also, I
> > > skim using
> > > newspaper, but always have before with no problems.
> > > Any suggestions
> > > would be helpful as I am running out of ideas and
> > > although I can
> > > marble the scarves twice to lessen the impact of the
> > > flaw, I would
> > > prefer to get a great scarf the first time around. I
> > > make enough
> > > mistakes of my own without having to deal with size
> > > with a mind of
> > > its own. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Angie
> > >
> > >
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