RE: [Marbling] Re: Sumi Paper
- you can also get left over rolls of newsprint at many newspapers for a couple of dollars.
Franklyn Smith <bembo@...> wrote:Hi Rain,
What a good idea, using newsprint to pick up the Japanese paper! Have
you considered substituting unprinted newsprint paper which is usually
available at art supply stores and certainly from paper distributors.
It's pretty cheap and would eliminate the problem of the offset of the
printers' ink .
From: crystalmirror2002 [mailto:crystalmirror2002@...]
Sent: March 9, 2003 5:50 AM
Subject: [Marbling] Re: Sumi Paper
Hi all -
I just found this group 2 days ago and am very happy to find such
a virtual gathering of marblers. I am also very impressed to see
so many highly revered marblers having the willingness and
patience to share advice with beginning and experenced
marblers alike! I have been marbling for 20 years, not full time,
but in episodic, manic spurts which have yielded thousands of
sheets over the years. I always discover new things every single
time I marble and that is one of the experiences i love about this
I have done a lot of marbling with sumi paper; one reason i really
like to use it is that it does not require alum (as is true also with
other papers that are unsized) .
i like to use the sumi papers to pick up residual patterns that
float on the surface after i have removed a piece of paper that
didnt cover the whole tray. you know , those times when you
have such a beautiful, ephemeral, swirly pattern left on the size
that it just breaks your heart to scrape it off with newspaper and
you dont have any small sheets of paper alumed to pick it up
with? well that is usually when i use the sumi paper...since it
doesnt need to be alumed, and one can not plan the
serendipitious effects that can occur when the colors left at the
edges of the bath float into *beauty*. i keep several
sizes/weights/colors of sumi paper on hand for just this
i have also used the sumi papers as the 'primary target' for my
marbling, and even over marbled them many times. one of my
all time favorite marbles is a 15"x20" sheet of sumi paper which
is overmarbled twice. if i knew how to attach a jpg file to this
message i would put it out here for you to see. (is that even
I marble with even the most thin and fragile of sumi papers, and
to lift it off the size i simply put a piece of newspaper down
directly on the sumi paper (which does indeed get completely
saturated with the carrageenan as soon as you lay it down on
the size) and the sumi paper adheres to the newspaper, which
of course is plently strong enough to hold the wet sumi paper,
and strong enough also to withstand the rinsing process. i
leave the sumi paper on the newspaper until it is completely dry,
and then peel it off.
occasionally, there may be some newpaper ink imprint left on
the sumi paper, but of the hundreds of sheets i have marbled
this way, i think maybe only 2% have had that ink stain problem.
i try to use newspaper pages with low ink loads to minimize the
potential for staining.
even if i wouldnt use an ink stained paper in a piece of art, i find
that none of my friends object to having their birthday gifts
wrapped in a paper with a little newspapery spot on it. (though
certainly these days the messages that could be left from any
newspaper could be too depressing and might render a paper
ineligible for gift giving !) :>)
pray for peace!
PS, i realize brevity is probably appreciated in these messages,
and apologize for the overblabbling my 1am cup of tea has
--- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com, Geri Burgert <gburgert@o...>
> I'm wondering if anyone uses Sumi painting paper formarbling?
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> Thanks! Geri
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