Re: [Marbling] Methyl Cel
> There are more than a dozen different types of methyl cel. I assume you are[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> getting it from a marbling supplier and there should be directions. If not
> you will need to experiment. Ammonia is sometimes added to raise the Ph to
> keep the methyl cel in suspension. Then you might have to add vinegar to
> lower the Ph. You want the Ph of the methyl cel solution to be about the same
> as the pigments you are using. Your water, hardness and Ph, will effect the
> outcome You can get Ph tape for the methyl cel solution but you¹ll probably
> have to check with your supplier about the paint. Createx seems to be about 8
> (much higher than it used to be) and Versetex is 8.5. I hope this has
> helped!! Gail
- I use methyl cel that I buy from Pro Chemical. I use 1/4 cup per
gallon of water (my well water - it is on the hard/alkaline side).
1)I put 3 gallons of well water in a bucket.
2)I add 3/4 cup of Pro Chemial's methyl cel & stir it up with a
giant whisk so it is in suspension.
3) I add 3 to 4 teaspoons of household ammonia & stir like crazy.
The ammonia makes the water more alkaline which sets off a reaction
with the methyl cel & makes it thicken up. I keep stirring for maybe
5 minutes until the methyl cel loses its cloudiness & is thickened.
4) I let it cure for overnight if possible.
5) Pro Chemical's instructions say to add a teaspoon of vinegar for
each gallon of water after the solution has rested for 30 minutes, &
I used to do this but I don't anymore. Maybe I should, beats me. My
methyl cel lasts well for a week or so if it doesn't get hot. I keep
my buckets of made up methyl cel sealed with screw lids & it lasts
for a long time until I'm ready to use it.
--- In Marbling@y..., "manihunt" <manihunt@y...> wrote:
> Read somewhere that Ammonia should be added to the Methyl Cel
> solution. Is that necessary? Has anyone tried it? How much methyl
> do you use per gallon of water?
- I got my methyl cel from a paint shop (it's the one used for wall
paper), but have not been able to find any ammonia yet. That's why I
was wondering if it was absolutely necessary.
> I got my methyl cel from a paint shop (it's the one used for wallGood luck..the MC used for wallpaper paste is not as refined or as pure and
> paper), but have not been able to find any ammonia yet. That's why I
> was wondering if it was absolutely necessary.
might not give you very good results. Regards, Gail
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- The methyl cel Pro Chemical sells works well (at least for
acrylics). Just follow their directions for mixing (including the
ammonia part). They have a web site. If you want to order in larger
quantities, just call them.