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Re: [Marbling] Fw: Marbling on Paper

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  • Gail MacKenzie
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    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 5, 2002
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      >> >
      > Hello Carol,
      >
      > This was an absolutely fascinating post ...to me, as I have a different
      > respond to each of the products you have listed. First off..it is the million
      > dollar question, and second , besides the product, I think it is the air,
      > water, humidity, barometric pressure and the moods of your local marbling
      > muses according to their astrological charts!! Thanks for all the
      > information!!
      >
      > Regards, Gail M.
      >> >
      >> > You've asked the $20,000 dollar question. The paint you use is the
      >> > major factor which defines the quality of your marbling as well as
      >> > the
      >> > unique style of your marbling. I have tried several paints and quit
      >> > using them for these reasons.
      >> >
      >> > 1. Liquitex concentrated acrylics- I have never created as crisp a
      >> > pattern with any other paint period. However I quit using them
      >> > because
      >> > they reformulated the paints and the black was not working properly.
      >> > I
      >> > didn't realize this until I attended the marbling gathering in San
      >> > Francisco. The lesson learned when marbling is test without mixing
      >> > colors so if one color is not working you can isolate the problem.
      >> >
      >> > 2. Colophon paints-Very reliable, but I can not tolerate mixing the
      >> > paint. I once got a bottle that was impossible to stir and threw it
      >> > out. Also since it is a watercolor I cannot marble on fabric.
      >> >
      >> > 3. Createx Acrylics- Works in a pinch, but when you get new bottles
      >> > the paint dots open into a network of little holes. Interesting and
      >> > great if if it would do this consistantly, but after the bottle sits
      >> > around for awhile this phenomon subsides.
      >> >
      >> > 4. JoSonja's acrylic gouache. Acryics should mean it is water
      >> > insoluable and gouache should mean it is water soluable. All I know
      >> > is
      >> > that if I leave my brushes to dry with paint on it takes a lot of
      >> > cleaning. I still like this paint, however the one draw back is that
      >> > the blues dirty the carragheanan bath quickly. Also the past two
      >> > years
      >> > I have been having problems with the black. I believe they
      >> > reformulated that color. Remember this paint was never intended for
      >> > marbling.
      >> >
      >> > 5. Golden highloads and Golden fluids. Currently am testing them
      >> > and
      >> > some days are good and some days aren't. Using golden fluids the
      >> > black
      >> > and the white are giving me problems. Generally I think they are too
      >> > agressive, but am working around this by 1). either flooding the tank
      >> > with the first color so the subsequent colors do not spread as much.
      >> > 2). again flooding the tank with a first color but this time in a
      >> > different brand and finally 3) combining golden highloads with golden
      >> > fluids. I do this because golden highloads are not as agressive.
      >> > Also
      >> > I haven't tried this but I would like to combine my carragheanan bath
      >> > with methylcellulose since methylcellolose can tolorate greater paint
      >> > agressiveness.
      >> >
      >> > Other paints specially formulated for marbling are Iris Nevins and
      >> > Galen Barry's paints.
      >> >
      >> > I hope this reply opens the floodgates for more responses.
      >> >
      >> > Carol Scott
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >



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    • irisnevins
      If marbling on paper, try various brands of gouache ....not ideal, but they generally work. Results vary from brand to brand. You would have to experiment. Mix
      Message 2 of 3 , Jun 5, 2002
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        If marbling on paper, try various brands of gouache ....not ideal, but they
        generally work. Results vary from brand to brand. You would have to
        experiment.

        Mix with a fair amount of water until light cream consistency. Use
        distilled water to rule out problems being caused by water.

        Iris Nevins
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