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  • Roz Macken
    Jul 31, 2012
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      Bill, here's the link to the video to which I think you refer. See the 2nd
      link. Roz Macken, PA

      On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Sue Cole <akartisan@...> wrote:

      > **
      > I would think Phoenix would be large enough you could contact one
      > of the Universities and ask for bookbinding or marbling classes.
      > Sometimes they offer them together.
      > I've bought pretty much every book available on marbling there is
      > and downloaded some of the internet.
      > Also, there are two excellent dvd's on marbling, one by Peggy
      > Skycraft which you can buy thorugh dharma trading at
      > www.dharmatrading.**com and one by Mimi Schleicher at her site.:
      > http://www.marbling**.com/ <http://www.marbling.com/> both of these
      > helped me a lot.
      > Also, there are many marbling videos on www.youtube.**com just put
      > marbling or ebru in the search box. One of the best is by two
      > australian women who use oil colors, but you can learn by watching
      > them is:
      > http://www.youtube.**com/watch?**v=54OILOfT1bs<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54OILOfT1bs>
      > I have had very god luck with two cheaper brands of acrylics for both
      > paper and silk scarves. I am in Fairbanks, AK so have to get a lot of
      > things over the internet, but these two are Apple Barrel Brand in the
      > crafts section at WalMart for $2.00 for an 8 oz bottle and Artworks
      > Artist Quality Acrylics - also says ProArt on the bottle about halfway
      > down for $7 a bottle from Ben Franklin.
      > The paints I have had no luck with at all were the metallic ones - in
      > any brand so far. The one I had the biggest frustration with was the
      > carbon black from Golden - it "bleeds" of the paper almost every
      > time.
      > I started out with Golden fluid acrylics but they are way more
      > expensive, but have wonderful colors you can't get anywhere else.
      > Most of the time I just dilute the color with water until they are about
      > the cfonsistency of 2% milk or a bit thinner. The blues tend to
      > spread themost by theirselves. Each color is different so there is no
      > set formula for mixing them, and one day they might work differently
      > from another, so I always test them in a corner of the tank to see if
      > they will "play"
      > The cheapest thing to use for tanks for paper is the "photo frame"
      > clear boxes for photos - I get them at Michaels here. You will go
      > through a lot of frustrations and discoveries doing marbling, but
      > that's how it goes. Just keep going.
      > I use photo flo for all these and I get it from:
      > http://www.bhphotov**ideo.com/**c/product/**28195-<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/28195->
      > REG/Kodak_1464510_**Photo_Flo_**200_Solution.**html
      > One bottle will last a long time - you dilute it quite a bit to use it.
      > Also, as has been discussed quite a bit here lately, the main
      > frustration now is the paper. Some papers work and some don't
      > and right now I've had good luck with the cheaper sketch paper from
      > Dick Blick or the white sulphite from
      > http://www.colophon**bookarts.**com/ <http://www.colophonbookarts.com/>she is very helpful if you call her.
      > As for classes, some are better than others. I just waited for 3
      > months to take one because it was here and it was such a
      > disappoint, I almost cried. She didn't bring any examples and had
      > us working with wet sumi paper, which was like working with toilet
      > paper because it doesn't have any size. She claimed she had been
      > trained in it, but I had more experience than she did and just tried to
      > keep my mouth shut and try things the way she did, but it was a
      > disaster. The size was too thick and wouldn't wash off the paper, if
      > you were even able to pick it up without tearing it, etc., etc.
      > But hands on is still better than trying to figure it out yourself if
      > possible. Good luck and hope some of this is some help to you.
      > Sue Cole
      > Fairbanks, AK

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