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5063Re: [Marbling] Re: Making our own base papers

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  • irisnevins
    Mar 3, 2009
      Oh I understood it was a joke!! Still, if you want to be my re-seller let me know!! I know you were kidding. True enough, if we didn't have to make money, there would be more time for art and experimentation! Artists are often uncomfortable with the business side of things!

      Iris Nevins
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: atomenegazzo<mailto:atomenegazzo@...>
      To: Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:33 AM
      Subject: [Marbling] Re: Making our own base papers

      Dear group.

      My previous message 100% nonsense.

      I sorry!

      --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com>, "atomenegazzo" <atomenegazzo@...> wrote:
      > Hi Dear group,
      > On the commercial level, I think best thing to do is donĀ“t even marble, just be a re
      > my best regards from Buenos Aires
      > --- In Marbling@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Marbling@yahoogroups.com>, "Susanne Krause" <studio@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi Iris,
      > > and hi to all the others wondering about paper making,
      > >
      > > for making decorated papers professionally, meaning to earn your
      > > livelyhood by it, forget about making your own base papers unless you
      > > are about twenty years of age, have the time and the money to invest
      > > in 10 years of full time learning, plus 10 more years of learning the
      > > techniques of paper decoration you wish to learn, plus more years in
      > > which to learn combining both.
      > >
      > > It may sound harsh but that's exactly how it is. We're all repeating
      > > all the time that you cannot learn marbling (or any of the other
      > > tchniques) quickly and easily. An enormous percentage of all the
      > > postings in this group is about technical problems and the tricks our
      > > materials play on us. Paper making is just the same; and on top of it
      > > all a professional set up needs even more space and money than the
      > > professional set up for paper decoration.
      > >
      > > A person can have enormous fun making paper, just as they can have
      > > enormous fun making marbled papers or whatever. It's very, very
      > > exciting work and just as addictive as making decorated papers. It's a
      > > sensational experience to be responsible for the whole thing.
      > > Nevertheless it is idiotic on the commercial level, and it is
      > > adventurous on the emotional (to say the least). It is the simple
      > > truth that there are just so many really good papers makers, just as
      > > there are just so many really good paper decorators. Once in a while
      > > there may be an exceptionally gifted and dedicated person who can do
      > > both in equally good quality, but these persons are just that:
      > > exceptions. We're not a profession of exceptions (except in the field
      > > of mild madness).
      > >
      > > I could go on and on about this, but let me finish with a suggestion:
      > > try printing papers. They are velin, sturdy, comparatively cheap and
      > > available with or without buffering. I'm using them for dribbled,
      > > early 20th century and some 19th century pastes. I'm told they marble
      > > fine.
      > > Susanne krause
      > >


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