1330RE : [Marbling] Hello Iris, John Ang, Sandy and Jan...
- Sep 25, 2002Hello Iris, John Ang, Sandy and Jan, and all the other members
Thanks for your messages and sorry for the delay.
Jonacs was the other site that made me rush into the shop and try to
find the marbling kit (apart from Galen Berry) thank you John also for
your offer to answer my questions. I have a few today! I believe you
live in Singapore and I went there a few years ago. What a change of
climate and scenery. I loved it. We unfortunately didnt see much of the
sun because forest fires in Malaysia brought all the dust and fumes
I wont give up marbling even if the result is still rather poor! And
as for supplies from the States, you know white powders have no chance
at all at the customs Galen also said so. Ill just have to make do
with Pebeo or find out my own stuff otherwise. Has anyone tried to make
the size with starch paste? Or tried with oil paints?
Unfortunately marbling seems to be totally unknown here . It was
fashionable here in the eighties but you cannot find books or other
providers than Pebeo. Luckily I found some literature at Amazon and
Galen kindly agreed to send his booklet over.
Jan, as for Pebeo the size is mysterious since they do not mention what
it is. They call it thickener! I found that some colors did eat others
which then go under. It does not float properly and certainly not side
With Pebeo, the paper is not sponged with alum before it is used and the
rake does not have a significant effect (a wooden stick and pins (like
the ones for sewing) was provided and you had to make it first.
I havent tried with material yet but eventually I would like to use it
I also tried different acrilics and had to dilute them. It is not very
easy to get the right quality.
How many times can one use the size with Carageenan?
I am definitely not giving up but need some more practice and advice ;-)
De : Jan Bond [mailto:jan@...]
Envoyé : mercredi, 18. septembre 2002 21:54
À : Marbling@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [Marbling] Hello from Switzerland...
I've used the Pebeo marbling paints, and found they work well. Although
describe them as somewhat liquid, they're the same consistency as other
products. You're right about the limited color palette, though. Pebeo
has a product called Setacolor, iridescents in a wide range of colors,
meant for fabrics. Many of them make good marbling paints if they are
half and half or more with water, and they are another way to give you
variety. The gold and the copper work especially well and give nice
You don't say what kind of size was in your starter kit, only that you
problems with it. I used to use sodium alginate, as carrageenan doesn't
seem to be available anywhere in Canada. After all the comments on this
list about the superiority of carageenan, I finally ordered some (I got
mine from Galen Berry). It really made a big difference.
I also ordered some of his acrylic paints, and some of his tools, and
are all good products.
If you are ordering from Galen, I highly recommend buying his
pamphlet. It has very clear information about techniques, and also about
mixing your own paints.
At the moment I still have some Pebeo on hand, some of Galen's paints,
some Liquitiex artist acrylics that I mix with water, and they all work.
also haven't had any problems using more than one type of acrylic at the
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