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    When I posted the same info Life in the 1500s to a couple of lists I received the following: Tomatoes were not eaten in Europe for many centuries because
    Message 1 of 1 , May 31, 1999
      When I posted the same info "Life in the 1500s" to a couple of lists I
      received the following:

      Tomatoes were not eaten in Europe
      for many centuries because tomatoes were a "New World" plant cultivated in
      what is now Mexico and South America. The nearest thing to tomatoes in
      Europe in the 1500's was a plant commonly found in Italy known then and
      now as "purple nightshade" which is poisonous. Purple nightshade looks
      just like a tomatoe so when the Spaniards came to the Americas and found
      that the native population cultivated tomatoes they thought they were the
      devils incarnate as they watched the natives eat tomatoes picked fresh
      from the vine. Consider your reaction in those days of religious
      persecution... you are watching a person of a different appearance and
      different skin color speaking a different language cultivating poisonous
      plants and eating them raw right before your eyes. That is why the
      Spaniards slaughtered so many natives... they thought they were the devil
      themselves. It was many years before the tomato was recognized as a food
      and transplanted for use in Europe. It was met with great resistence by
      Europeans and several hundred years passed before they would begin to
      consider eating a tomato.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: susan d szewczyk <susansz@...>
      To: cobbk1rq@... <cobbk1rq@...>; Mainefamilies@onelist.com
      Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 7:44 AM
      Subject: [MaineFamilies] thought this was sort of interesting

      >From: susan d szewczyk <susansz@...>
      >-Hi Dad,
      >thought this was sort of interesting.
      >-------- Begin forwarded message ----------
      >From: Eugene Hubbard <hubfam@...>
      >To: MEYORK-L@...
      >Subject: [MEYORK-L] Life in the 1500's, or the Etymology of Expressions
      >Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:21:18 -0400
      >Message-ID: <37528CCD.CD73CC69@...>
      > I found this on a list, and thought it worth passing on. If a shred of
      >this is true, it helps explain how our emigrant ancestors were able to
      >deal with what we (today) think of as unspeakable hardships when they
      >settled in the New World.
      > Life in the
      > Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in
      >May and were still smelling pretty good by June. However, they were
      >starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the
      >B.O. Baths equaled a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the
      >house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other
      >sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the
      >babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone
      >in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water".
      > Houses had thatched roofs. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood
      >underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the
      >pets ... dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs lived in
      >the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals
      >would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats
      >and dogs."
      > There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This
      >posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could
      >really mess up your nice clean bed. So, they found if they made beds
      >with big posts and hung a sheet over the top, it addressed that
      >problem. Hence those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies.
      > The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt,
      >hence the saying "dirt poor."
      > The wealthy had slate floors, which would get slippery in the winter
      >when wet. So they spread thresh on the floor to help keep their
      >footing. As the winter wore on they kept adding more thresh until when
      >you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of
      >wood was placed at the entry way, hence a "thresh hold".
      > They cooked in the kitchen in a big kettle that always hung overthe
      >fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They
      >mostly ate vegetables and didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew
      >for dinner leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then
      >start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had
      >been in there for a month. Hence the rhyme: "peas porridge hot, peas
      >porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."
      > Sometimes they could obtain pork and would feel really special when
      >that happened. When company came over, they would bring out some bacon
      >and hang it to show it off. It was a sign of wealth and that a man
      >"could really bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to
      >share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat."
      > Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid
      >content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food. This happened
      >most often with tomatoes, so they stopped eating tomatoes ... for 400
      >years. Most people didn't have pewter plates, but had trenchers - a
      >piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. Trenchers were
      >never washed and a lot of times worms got into the wood. After eating
      >off wormy trenchers, they would get "trench mouth."
      > Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom
      >of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the
      >"upper crust".
      > Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would
      >sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along
      >the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They
      >were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family
      >would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would
      >wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake".
      > England is old and small, and they started running out of places to
      >bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take their bones
      >to a house and reuse the grave. In reopening these coffins, one out of
      >25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they
      >realized they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would
      >tie a string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up
      >through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out
      >in the graveyard all night to listen for the bell. Hence on the
      >"graveyard shift" they would know that someone was "saved by the bell"
      >or he was a "dead ringer".
      >--------- End forwarded message ----------
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