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Re: Time For SILENT Majority to Demand Action

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  • Sally Hobaugh
    Last night, I called 911 about a group of guys shooting off fireworks aiming directly at the houses in my alley I felt the need to respond. The only thing that
    Message 1 of 2 , Jul 5, 2010
      Last night, I called 911 about a group of guys shooting off fireworks aiming directly at the houses in my alley I felt the need to respond.

      The only thing that will bring a change to this yearly situation is a horrible tragedy until then I'm afraid it will remain the same.

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:26 AM, "RobbyCU" <RobbyCU@...> wrote:

      > We'll pick up the convo next year. Yawn
      >
      > ----------
      > Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone
      >
      > ------Original Message------
      > From: Eric J. Jones <ejjones.threed@...>
      > To: <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
      > Cc: <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>,<Brookland@yahoogroups.com>,<MPD-4D@yahoogroups.com
      > >,<EdgewoodDC@yahoogroups.com>,
      > <Eckington@yahoogroups.com>
      > Date: Mon, Jul 5, 11:18 AM -0400
      > Subject: Re: [ward5] Fireworks Crimes: Time For SILENT Majority to
      > Demand Action
      >
      > Well maybe we need to move because we called the police and fire
      > department
      > several times and had no real response. Now as if relates to VA the
      > only
      > problem with them is that you can't use them in the state but the
      > majority
      > of the illegal fireworks are sold legally in the state if Virginia.
      > But they
      > know folks will just come to DC with them so maybe they are not
      > worried.
      >
      > Eric J. Jones
      > - ejjones.threed@...
      >
      > On Jul 5, 2010 10:33 AM, "DB" <brookland.nedc@...> wrote:
      >
      > Absolutely right Kathy, Patrick and others!
      >
      > Since political leaders in PG and Monty counties have had the
      > courage to ban
      > fireworks for the peace and quiet enjoyment of the vast majority of
      > their
      > residents, the District has become a *worsening* haven for criminal
      > perpetrators from Maryland (mostly)-- as well as some in DC -- every
      > 4th of
      > July.
      >
      > And I'm glad we didn't see Fayette's (HQ's/Chief Lanier's?) earlier
      > post, or
      > we would have been doing a slow burn long before last night's
      > outrageous *
      > punk-outsiders* perpetrated upon PSA 502 residents the following
      > *CRIMES*...
      > *
      > -- unlawful entry*
      > *-- disturbing the peace*
      > *-- cruelty to animals*
      > *-- destruction of property*
      >
      > Why are thoughtless mob-behavior crimes perpetrated by *so few*
      > people upon
      > *so many* DC residents allowed to disturb the peace and quiet
      > enjoyment of
      > the 4th of July?
      >
      > What about the peaceful enjoyment of the 4th of July denied our city's
      > elderly and infirm?
      >
      > Why are the bizarre, selfish "pleasures" of *so few* allowed to
      > inflict *animal
      > cruelty* upon residents' dogs, cats and other pets-- as well as
      > other urban
      > wildlife throughout the city?
      >
      > DC has one of the finest licensed, professionally-controlled fireworks
      > displays in the world. No one in the District will be denied the
      > ability to
      > hear booms and see safe fireworks displays at a reasonable hour on
      > the 4th
      > of July-- assuming Council sees the wisdom and public safety in
      > banning
      > private use.
      >
      > Councilmembers' failure to join the overwhelming number of our metro
      > area's
      > suburban neighbors in stopping these fireworks-caused crimes, reflects
      > poorly on the political courage of our entire city government, as
      > well. DC
      > should not be lagging behind our neighbors in providing common-sense
      > protection for our citizens and our pets. That the entire
      > Commonwealth of
      > Virginia is more progressive than DC on this issue is just an
      > embarrassment.
      >
      > MPD's earlier listserv advisory to 5D residents to call the DCFD--
      > with its
      > implication that MPD should *NOT* *POLICE* and enforce our *existing
      > LAWS--*was outrageous. It reflected poorly on MPD, HQ/ Chief Lanier,
      > as well as
      > the Mayor. But as a law enforcement matter, the political pandering to
      > fireworks nuisance-makers-- many of whom are NOT DC residents-- by
      > DC city
      > leaders, places an unfair burden on MPD's rank-and-file, by not
      > giving MPD
      > an additional criminal tool to end this increasing 4th-of-July mayhem.
      >
      > We are unabashed supporters of CM Harry Thomas for re-election as
      > Ward 5
      > Councilmember. But we call upon CM Thomas and the entire Council, as
      > well
      > as the Mayor to *END these annual fireworks-caused crimes in DC--
      > including
      > the animal cruelties perpetrated-- *on behalf of the peace and
      > public safety
      > of the vast majority of our city's residents.
      >
      > Don and Brian
      > Brookland
      > PSA 502
      >
      > *PS -- Kudos and thanks to Cmdr Greene and MPD's PSA 502 team for
      > their
      > response in patrolling and ending the disturbances on Otis and
      > around the
      > Metro late last night. We suspect this will be of keen interest to
      > our ANC
      > on a personal level-- and hope this is another issue upon which we
      > can find
      > common, neighborly ground w/ ANC Carolyn Steptoe.
      > *
      > PPS -- FYI, Consumer fireworks laws/prohibitions in surrounding
      > jurisdictions...*
      > *
      > *MARYLAND (STATE & COUNTY) LAWS RE. **CONSUMER FIREWORKS**:*
      >
      > *Specifically Permitted... *
      > Sparklers containing no chlorates or perchlorates, ground based
      > sparkling
      > devices that are non-aerial non-explosive, and are labeled in
      > accordance
      > with the requirements of CPSC. Paper wrapped snappers containing
      > less than
      > 3/100 grains of explosive composition, and snakes that contain no
      > mercury
      > and are not regulated by DOT. Note: retailers must submit products for
      > testing and approval to State Fire Marshal's Office prior to sale.
      >
      > *Specifically Prohibited...*
      > *All others*
      >
      > *MARYLAND LOCAL CONSUMER FIREWORKS RETAIL SALES REQUIREMENTS*
      > *Consumer fireworks are illegal to retail or use in* Town of Ocean
      > City
      > (Worcester County), Baltimore City, and the following counties:
      > Harford,
      > Howard, *Montgomery, and Prince George's.* Companies/individuals
      > should
      > contact local government for all other counties prior to
      > wholesaling/distributing, retailing, or using consumer fireworks.
      > The local
      > government may require additional permits or fees.
      >
      > *VIRGINIA LAWS RE. **CONSUMER FIREWORKS**:*
      >
      > *Specifically Prohibited throughout the Commonwealth...*
      > Firecrackers, skyrockets, torpedoes, and other fireworks which
      > explode,
      > travel laterally, rise into the air, or fire projectiles into the air.
      > *
      >
      > --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, khenderson029@... wrote:*
      > >
      > > I agree with Patrick; fireworks should be banned with the
      > exception of
      > > professional displays on our National Mall. Every year we endure
      > this
      > madness
      > > and are essentially held hostage by persons discharging dangerous
      > > explosives, while our police are overwhelmed responding to calls
      > to disarm
      > them.
      > > Council action is needed to stop this significant breach to our
      > public
      > safety.
      > > Six bills were introduced and failed during the recent Council
      > periods 17
      > > and 18; our representative failed to take any action other than
      > saying no
      > > to the legislation.
      > >
      > > Kathy Henderson
      > >
      > >
      > *> In a message dated 7/4/2010 10:27:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      > > arodeojock@... writes:*
      > >
      > > I have to send my dog to my parents in Maryland because of this
      > crap.
      > > Every year this area turns into Little Beirut. The City Council, the
      > Mayor,
      > > 911, and MPD are USELESS when it comes to fighting this culture.
      > They tell
      > us
      > > that the fireworks that we see, hear, and feel for WEEKS during
      > this time
      > > are illegal, yet they do nothing about it. It’s a waste of valuabl
      > e MPD
      > > resources to go after all the illegal activity around fireworks.
      > > We all know that these ramshackle fireworks stands are selling
      > more than
      > > sparklers and other “legal” fireworks. We need a ZERO TOLERANCE
      > policy
      > when
      > > it comes to these dangerous product. Let Safeway sell sparklers
      > and let’s
      > > ban the firework shacks. It would decrease the number of 911 calls
      > and
      > give
      > > the MPD the time and resources to focus on real crime.
      > > Patrick Nelson
      > > 1900 Block of H Street NE
      > >
      > *>
      > > From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups. MPD-5D@yahoogroups. MPD-5D@yahoogr MPD-
      > On Behalf
      >
      > > Of khenderson029@khender
      > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:32 PM
      > > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups. MP
      > > Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Fireworks Safety*
      > >
      > >
      > > Get ready for exploding trash cans, destroyed bus stop signage,
      > fireworks
      > > aimed at your person and or property, endless noise, frightened
      > pets,
      > > senior citizens with breathing difficulties due to acrid fumes from
      > fireworks
      > > discharge and endless mounds of fireworks debris on our streets. Our
      > officers
      > > will spend the next twenty-four hours responding repeatedly to
      > calls for
      > > relief from seemingly battle-worn residents who are tired of
      > explosives.
      > > Expect your Council representative to do nothing to offer any
      > affected
      > Ward 5
      > > resident any relief.
      > >
      > > Kathy Henderson
      > >
      > ---
      > >
      > *> In a message dated 7/4/2010 4:38:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      > > svhill3@... a message *
      > >
      > >
      > > I will definitely do that. I also think it would have been nice to
      > see
      > > some flyers or information put out telling folks not to light or
      > trash
      > other
      > > people property while trying to celebrate the holiday.
      > >
      > *> Sabrina On Jul 3, 2010, Greene, Lamar (MPD) lamar.greene@lamar.
      > wrote: *
      > >
      > >
      > > Call 911 if you feel that someone has intentionally thrown a fire
      > work on
      > > your person. Officers will respond and take the appropriate action.
      > > Commander Lamar D. Greene
      > >
      > > ____________________________________
      > >
      > *> From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.: MPD-5D@yahMPD-5D@...
      > > To: MPD-5D@...: MPD-5D@...
      > > Sent: Sat Jul 03 13:01:28 2010
      > > Subject: Re: RE: [MPD-5D] Fireworks Safety
      > > *
      > >
      > > What is also being done/going to be done with children under 16
      > being
      > > allowed to throw fireworks towards people and other citizen's
      > property?
      > >
      > > Sabrina Hill
      > >
      > *> On Jul 3, 2010, Philip Blair & Mary Pat Rowan blair-rowan@blair-
      > rowabla
      > > wrote: *
      > >
      > > Fayette:
      > > Thanks for this. It is useful. Forgive me for adding two
      > suggestions of
      > > additions that would make it more useful…
      > > What advice do you have for residents who find streets and sidewalks
      > > littered the next day with the trash left behind by the fireworks
      > users,
      > trash
      > > which might include (and in my experience has included) unexploded
      > duds
      > and
      > > unlit fireworks that present a serious hazard for the children who
      > find
      > > them?
      > > What is the definition or description of what makes a firework
      > illegal.
      > > Yours,
      > > Commissioner Philip Blair
      > > AND 5A10
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > *> From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups. MPD-5 MPD- MPD-On Behalf Of Fayette
      > > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:42 PM
      > > To: MPD-5D@...:
      > > Subject: [MPD-5D] Fireworks Safety *
      > >
      > > 5D Community,
      > > Reporting Illegal Fireworks
      > > To report the use or sale of illegal fireworks, contact the DC
      > Fire/EMS
      > > Department's Fire Prevention Division at (202) 727-1600 or (202) 727-1614
      > .
      >
      > > If you are aware of fireworks being set off in your neighborhood,
      > call
      > > 9-1-1 to have police and fire personnel investigate the situation.
      > > Specially-trained teams will respond to ensure that any fireworks
      > being
      > set off are
      > > legal and safe. These teams are also inspecting fireworks stands
      > operating
      > in
      > > the District of Columbia for compliance with the law.
      > > The Fire/EMS Department seizes illegal fireworks products that are
      > > discovered in the District and destroys them after 30 days.
      > Whether you're
      >
      > > celebrating Independence Day or the New Year, a backyard barbecue
      > or other
      > family
      > > occasion, it is important to understand the laws regulating
      > fireworks use
      > > in the District of Columbia.
      > > Fireworks Safety Tips
      > > · Always read and follow label directions.
      > > · Always have an adult present.
      > > · Never ignite fireworks indoors.
      > > · Only ignite fireworks outdoors.
      > > · Always have water or sand nearby to extinguish fireworks after
      > > use.
      > > · Never experiment or attempt to make fireworks.
      > > · Light fireworks one at a time.
      > > · Never re-light malfunctioning or dud fireworks.
      > > · Store fireworks out of the reach of children.
      > > · Store fireworks in a cool, dry place.
      > > · Never throw fireworks at another person.
      > > · Never carry fireworks in your pocket.
      > > · Stand at least15 feet from burning cones and fountains.
      > > · Do not light fireworks near combustibles such as gasoline,
      > > newspapers, etc.
      > > · Do not ignite fireworks that have been wet and then dried.
      > > · Do not light fireworks at any place other than the fuse.
      > > · _Do not use illegal fireworks. _
      > > (http://fems.dc.gov/fems/cwp/view,a,3,q,636583.asp)
      > > · Only use fireworks products that have a label clearly listing
      > > the manufacturer'Only use fireworks pr
      > > For additional information about safe use of fireworks, or any other
      > > fireworks related information, contact the DC Fire/EMS Department
      > Fire
      > > Prevention Division at (202) 727-1600 or (202) 727-1614.
      > >
      >
      >
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