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RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

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  • Geovani A Bonilla
    600 Block of Missouri Avenue NW (known now as Misery Ave. NW) . By the way Chief - I LOVE THE NEW PSA 501. I must commend you for having had the leadership to
    Message 1 of 25 , Sep 8, 2012
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      600 Block of Missouri Avenue NW (known now as Misery Ave. NW) .

      By the way Chief - I LOVE THE NEW PSA 501. I must commend you for having
      had the leadership to make the tough decisions to re-align the PSAs; the
      outcomes in our PSA speak for themselves.



      Geovani A. Bonilla

      Email: gbonilla@...

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      From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
      Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 11:04 AM
      To: 'gbonilla@...'; 'MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com'
      Subject: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

      What area Geovani?





      Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way. September is National Emergency
      Preparedness Month. To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical
      emergency alerts, go to <http://www.72hours.dc.gov> www.72hours.dc.gov.





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      From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
      Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
      Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

      Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don't enjoy getting love
      letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would
      rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with
      some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the
      areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required
      that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage. So I
      suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the
      place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen
      thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit
      signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is
      25 MPH.





      Geovani A. Bonilla

      Bates Area Civic Association

      Email: gbonilla@...
    • Bianca Lamar
      I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled
      Message 2 of 25 , Sep 8, 2012
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        I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled in the Fall 2012 semester because of this. I see the "Photo Enforced" signage but the speed is sometimes not posted. As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around. The mobile cameras that you guys deploy and move around to new areas are also tricky to abide by. Feel free to look into my ticket history.

        I understand that the cameras help with pedestrian safety and that car accidents in the district have been lowered dramatically. But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account. I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer.

        Thanks so much,

        Struggling Student
        B. Lamar

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

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        > From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
        > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
        > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
        > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
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        > Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage. So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.
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      • JWhitfield
        Chief Lanier... There is a new camera set up on South Dakota Ave NE just before V Street.. If you are leaving the neighborhood making a left onto South Dakota
        Message 3 of 25 , Sep 8, 2012
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          Chief Lanier... There is a new camera set up on South Dakota Ave NE just before V Street.. If you are leaving the neighborhood making a left onto South Dakota there is no speed limit sign before you get to the camera. Most folks living in the neighborhood only take this route and may not know the actual speed limit.


          Sent from my iPad

          On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

           

          What area Geovani?

           

          Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

            



          From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
          Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
          Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

          Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

           

           

          Geovani A. Bonilla

          Bates Area Civic Association

          Email: gbonilla@...

           

           

           

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                           

        • Austin, Alexia (MPD)
          Speed limits are ALWAYS posted in the area of mobile speed enforcement as well as the stationary devices. Maybe you haven t noticed or payed attention to them
          Message 4 of 25 , Sep 8, 2012
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            Speed limits are ALWAYS posted in the area of mobile speed enforcement as well as the stationary devices. Maybe you haven't noticed or payed attention to them but they are definitely there.

            Sent from my iPhone

            On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

             

            What area Geovani?

             

            Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

              


             

            Plan TODAY for what’s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

              



            From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
            Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
            Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

            Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

             

             

            Geovani A. Bonilla

            Bates Area Civic Association

            Email: gbonilla@...

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                             

          • Carole Jacobs
            For Mr. Bonilla -- If you are not sure of the speed limit in a given area, there is a default.  Doing your homework is much less expensive than accumulating
            Message 5 of 25 , Sep 8, 2012
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              For Mr. Bonilla --

              If you are not sure of the speed limit in a given area, there is a default.  Doing your homework is much less expensive than accumulating speeding tickets.  

              http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,1240,q,547984,mpdcNav_GID,1552,mpdcNav,|31886|.asp

              Cheers.



              From: "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...>
              To: "'gbonilla@...'" <gbonilla@...>; "'MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com'" <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:04 AM
              Subject: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

               
              What area Geovani?

               
              Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.
                


              From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
              Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
              Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

              Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.
               
               
              Geovani A. Bonilla
              Bates Area Civic Association
              Email: gbonilla@...
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
                                                                                                               


            • Skiingbabyb
              Last time I checked, the speed limit in DC is 25mph unless otherwise posted. Sent from my iPad ... Last time I checked, the speed limit in DC is 25mph unless
              Message 6 of 25 , Sep 8, 2012
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                Last time I checked, the speed limit in DC is 25mph unless otherwise posted.


                Sent from my iPad

                On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                 

                What area Geovani?

                 

                Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                  



                From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                 

                 

                Geovani A. Bonilla

                Bates Area Civic Association

                Email: gbonilla@...

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                 

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              • brian.ions
                Geovani, generally, ignorance of the law is no defense against its enforcement. So I m curious. What DC code are you referencing and how does it read? And how
                Message 7 of 25 , Sep 9, 2012
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                  Geovani, generally, ignorance of the law is no defense against its enforcement.

                  So I'm curious. What DC code are you referencing and how does it read? And how specifically is the law being violated by the use of mobile speed cams?

                  In my experience, Virginia is much tougher on speed limit enforcement than the District. Lower speeds always allow a driver more time to react safely to unexpected conditions. Given DC's dense population, with its crazy L'Enfant street layout and many kid pedestrians (always an unpredictable driving situation), I can't fault the chiefs at all for trying to save lives and limbs with tough speed limit enforcement.

                  brian/
                  504



                  --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                  What area Geovani?

                    


                  From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                  To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                  Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                  Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                  Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                   

                   

                  Geovani A. Bonilla

                  Bates Area Civic Association

                  Email: gbonilla@...

                   


                • b_on_t
                  Chief: If Geovanni doesn t mind, I ll chime in with one potential location that I know of. A few weeks back, a co-worker of mine who commutes into the city
                  Message 8 of 25 , Sep 9, 2012
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                    Chief:

                    If Geovanni doesn't mind, I'll chime in with one potential location that I know of.

                    A few weeks back, a co-worker of mine who commutes into the city recently got hit with a camera ticket (from one of the car-mounted mobile cameras) on 395 south, right in the area of Maine Avenue. He was surprised to get the ticket because he guessed the speed was 55 mph, reasoning that 395 was a freeway, when the ticket indicated it was really 45 mph. It's not a route he travels much.

                    Now, he placed the blame on himself and has probably already paid the ticket, but he felt there wasn't clear enough signage in the area of the camera at the time he got nabbed. Knowing him pretty well, he would've definitely slowed to the posted speed if he had seen a sign.

                    The circumstances may be completely different now that some time has passed, but just wanted to chime in.

                    --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:
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                    > What area Geovani?
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                    > Plan TODAY for what’s on the way. September is National Emergency Preparedness Month. To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov<http://www.72hours.dc.gov>.
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                    > From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                    > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                    > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                    > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
                    >
                    > Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage. So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.
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                    > Geovani A. Bonilla
                    > Bates Area Civic Association
                    > Email: gbonilla@...<mailto:gbonilla@...>
                    >
                  • Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                    JWhitfield, Yes, I live there and I know it is just around the bend. It is hard to exceed the limit after making that turn but we will make sure it is more
                    Message 9 of 25 , Sep 9, 2012
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                      JWhitfield, Yes, I live there and I know it is just around the bend. It is hard to exceed the limit after making that turn but we will make sure it is more visible. Thanks

                       

                      Plan TODAY for what’s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                        



                      From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                      Cc: gbonilla@... <gbonilla@...>; MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                      Sent: Sat Sep 08 12:45:10 2012
                      Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                       

                      Chief Lanier... There is a new camera set up on South Dakota Ave NE just before V Street.. If you are leaving the neighborhood making a left onto South Dakota there is no speed limit sign before you get to the camera. Most folks living in the neighborhood only take this route and may not know the actual speed limit.


                      Sent from my iPad

                      On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                       

                      What area Geovani?

                       

                      Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                        



                      From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                      Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                      Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                      Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                       

                       

                      Geovani A. Bonilla

                      Bates Area Civic Association

                      Email: gbonilla@...

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                       

                    • Mr. Keith Jarrell
                      It wouldn t hurt to slow some of these police cars down as well. Especially when they are making a lunch run and exceeding the limit by more than 20 miles per
                      Message 10 of 25 , Sep 9, 2012
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                        It wouldn't hurt to slow some of these police cars down as well. Especially when they are making a lunch run and exceeding the limit by more than 20 miles per hour at times.  Speed of this nature should include them running lights and sound and only if they are on an emergency.
                        Far too many times I notice them driving too fast, talking on cell phones with no ear bud and being anything but cautious.


                        On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Lanier, Cathy (MPD) <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:
                         

                        JWhitfield, Yes, I live there and I know it is just around the bend. It is hard to exceed the limit after making that turn but we will make sure it is more visible. Thanks

                         

                        Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                          



                        From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                        To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                        Cc: gbonilla@... <gbonilla@...>; MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                        Sent: Sat Sep 08 12:45:10 2012
                        Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                         

                        Chief Lanier... There is a new camera set up on South Dakota Ave NE just before V Street.. If you are leaving the neighborhood making a left onto South Dakota there is no speed limit sign before you get to the camera. Most folks living in the neighborhood only take this route and may not know the actual speed limit.


                        Sent from my iPad

                        On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                         

                        What area Geovani?

                         

                        Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                          



                        From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                        To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                        Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                        Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                        Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                         

                         

                        Geovani A. Bonilla

                        Bates Area Civic Association

                        Email: gbonilla@...

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                         




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                      • JWhitfield
                        Thanks! Sent from my iPad ... Thanks! Sent from my iPad On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Lanier, Cathy (MPD) wrote: JWhitfield, Yes, I
                        Message 11 of 25 , Sep 9, 2012
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                          Thanks!

                          Sent from my iPad

                          On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:38 PM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                           

                          JWhitfield, Yes, I live there and I know it is just around the bend. It is hard to exceed the limit after making that turn but we will make sure it is more visible. Thanks

                           

                          Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                            



                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                          Cc: gbonilla@... <gbonilla@...>; MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Sat Sep 08 12:45:10 2012
                          Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                           

                          Chief Lanier... There is a new camera set up on South Dakota Ave NE just before V Street.. If you are leaving the neighborhood making a left onto South Dakota there is no speed limit sign before you get to the camera. Most folks living in the neighborhood only take this route and may not know the actual speed limit.


                          Sent from my iPad

                          On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                           

                          What area Geovani?

                           

                          Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                            



                          From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                          Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                          Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                          Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                           

                           

                          Geovani A. Bonilla

                          Bates Area Civic Association

                          Email: gbonilla@...

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                           

                        • Leemah
                          I, too, am a college student in the area and would like to hear of any solutions or advice about this issue. This is unfortunate. Sent via BlackBerry from
                          Message 12 of 25 , Sep 9, 2012
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                            I, too, am a college student in the area and would like to hear of any solutions or advice about this issue. This is unfortunate.

                            Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

                            From: Bianca Lamar <blamar132@...>
                            Sender: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                            Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:36:19 -0400
                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com<MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                            ReplyTo: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                             

                            I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled in the Fall 2012 semester because of this. I see the "Photo Enforced" signage but the speed is sometimes not posted. As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around. The mobile cameras that you guys deploy and move around to new areas are also tricky to abide by. Feel free to look into my ticket history.

                            I understand that the cameras help with pedestrian safety and that car accidents in the district have been lowered dramatically. But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account. I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer.

                            Thanks so much,

                            Struggling Student
                            B. Lamar

                            Sent from my iPhone

                            On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                            > What area Geovani?
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                            > From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                            > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                            > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                            > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
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                            > Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage. So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.
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                          • Leemah
                            One could take pictures of the area where a ticket was issued showing the lack of signs. I m sure a judge would consider the evidence. Sent via BlackBerry from
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                              One could take pictures of the area where a ticket was issued showing the lack of signs. I'm sure a judge would consider the evidence.

                              Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

                              From: "b_on_t" <b_on_t@...>
                              Sender: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                              Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:37:00 +0000
                              To: <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                              ReplyTo: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                               

                              Chief:

                              If Geovanni doesn't mind, I'll chime in with one potential location that I know of.

                              A few weeks back, a co-worker of mine who commutes into the city recently got hit with a camera ticket (from one of the car-mounted mobile cameras) on 395 south, right in the area of Maine Avenue. He was surprised to get the ticket because he guessed the speed was 55 mph, reasoning that 395 was a freeway, when the ticket indicated it was really 45 mph. It's not a route he travels much.

                              Now, he placed the blame on himself and has probably already paid the ticket, but he felt there wasn't clear enough signage in the area of the camera at the time he got nabbed. Knowing him pretty well, he would've definitely slowed to the posted speed if he had seen a sign.

                              The circumstances may be completely different now that some time has passed, but just wanted to chime in.

                              --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:
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                              > What area Geovani?
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                              > Plan TODAY for what’s on the way. September is National Emergency Preparedness Month. To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov<http://www.72hours.dc.gov>.
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                              > From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                              > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                              > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                              > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
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                              > Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage. So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.
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                              > Bates Area Civic Association
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                            • Leemah
                              Perhaps investigating the makers of the cameras, when and how they are calibrated, what are the accuracy percentages, their reliability any defects, etc. Sent
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                                Perhaps investigating the makers of the cameras, when and how they are calibrated, what are the accuracy percentages, their reliability any defects, etc.

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                                From: "brian.ions" <brian.ions@...>
                                Sender: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:48:26 +0000
                                To: <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                                ReplyTo: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?

                                 

                                Geovani, generally, ignorance of the law is no defense against its enforcement.

                                So I'm curious. What DC code are you referencing and how does it read? And how specifically is the law being violated by the use of mobile speed cams?

                                In my experience, Virginia is much tougher on speed limit enforcement than the District. Lower speeds always allow a driver more time to react safely to unexpected conditions. Given DC's dense population, with its crazy L'Enfant street layout and many kid pedestrians (always an unpredictable driving situation), I can't fault the chiefs at all for trying to save lives and limbs with tough speed limit enforcement.

                                brian/
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                                --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

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                                From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                                To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                                Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                                 

                                 

                                Geovani A. Bonilla

                                Bates Area Civic Association

                                Email: gbonilla@...

                                 


                              • Daniel Chapman
                                Brian, Camera enforcement is in place to create revenue, not to save lives and limbs. it s all about the money. To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com From:
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                                  Brian,
                                   
                                  Camera enforcement is in place to create revenue, not to save "lives and limbs."  it's all about the money.
                                   

                                   

                                  To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                  From: brian.ions@...
                                  Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:48:26 +0000
                                  Subject: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?

                                   
                                  Geovani, generally, ignorance of the law is no defense against its enforcement.

                                  So I'm curious. What DC code are you referencing and how does it read? And how specifically is the law being violated by the use of mobile speed cams?

                                  In my experience, Virginia is much tougher on speed limit enforcement than the District. Lower speeds always allow a driver more time to react safely to unexpected conditions. Given DC's dense population, with its crazy L'Enfant street layout and many kid pedestrians (always an unpredictable driving situation), I can't fault the chiefs at all for trying to save lives and limbs with tough speed limit enforcement.

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                                  --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

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                                  From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                                  To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                  Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                  Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                                  Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                                   

                                   

                                  Geovani A. Bonilla

                                  Bates Area Civic Association

                                  Email: gbonilla@...

                                   



                                • Matthew
                                  I d appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer. Stop speeding.
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                                    "I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may
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                                    Stop speeding.


                                    --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, Bianca Lamar <blamar132@...> wrote:
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                                    > I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled in the Fall 2012 semester because of this. I see the "Photo Enforced" signage but the speed is sometimes not posted. As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around. The mobile cameras that you guys deploy and move around to new areas are also tricky to abide by. Feel free to look into my ticket history.
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                                    > I understand that the cameras help with pedestrian safety and that car accidents in the district have been lowered dramatically. But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account. I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer.
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                                  • Matt Ashburn
                                    Yes, the tickets are expensive, but so are the risks of driving unsafely. The default speed limit is 25 unless otherwise posted, and the cameras don t start
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                                      Yes, the tickets are expensive, but so are the risks of driving unsafely.  The default speed limit is 25 unless otherwise posted, and the cameras don't start ticketing unless you're going 11mph over the speed limit.  I have little sympathy for those that get speed camera tickets- just pay the fine, and use it as a lesson to drive safer. A fine is a better wake-up call than an accident or injuring someone.
                                       
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                                      On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bianca Lamar <blamar132@...> wrote:
                                       

                                      I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled in the Fall 2012 semester because of this. I see the "Photo Enforced" signage but the speed is sometimes not posted. As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around. The mobile cameras that you guys deploy and move around to new areas are also tricky to abide by. Feel free to look into my ticket history.

                                      I understand that the cameras help with pedestrian safety and that car accidents in the district have been lowered dramatically. But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account. I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer.

                                      Thanks so much,

                                      Struggling Student
                                      B. Lamar



                                      Sent from my iPhone

                                      On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

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                                      > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                      > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
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                                    • Elizabeth Lyttleton
                                      So, I m a working mom on a tight budget. But somehow I ve managed to receive just one speeding ticket from a camera in the last 5 years. I paid it, without
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                                        So, I'm a working mom on a tight budget.  But somehow I've managed to receive just one speeding ticket from a camera in the last 5 years.  I paid it, without complaint, because I was clearly driving too fast.  I sped up to pass someone who had pulled in front of me, and I shouldn't have.  It was stupid.

                                        But generally speaking, what exactly is tricky about driving the speed limit?  Are you typing texts or reading emails on your phone? Changing your music when you shouldn't? I hope nobody stops in front of you too quickly, or that the light doesn't change and my kids and I aren't in the crosswalk when you're driving too fast....

                                        Seriously, people, WHY IS IT SO HARD TO SLOW DOWN?!?!

                                        Elizabeth
                                        Eckington

                                        On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bianca Lamar <blamar132@...> wrote:
                                         

                                        I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled in the Fall 2012 semester because of this. I see the "Photo Enforced" signage but the speed is sometimes not posted. As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around. The mobile cameras that you guys deploy and move around to new areas are also tricky to abide by. Feel free to look into my ticket history.

                                        I understand that the cameras help with pedestrian safety and that car accidents in the district have been lowered dramatically. But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account. I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer.

                                        Thanks so much,

                                        Struggling Student
                                        B. Lamar

                                        Sent from my iPhone



                                        On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

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                                        > From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                                        > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                        > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                        > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
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                                      • Faye M. Black
                                        I generally support anything that gets people to slow down and drive within the speed limit and while I don t think speed cameras are terribly useful, I don t
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                                          I generally support anything that gets people to slow down and drive within the speed limit and while I don't think speed cameras are terribly useful, I don't have a real problem with them, generally. However, that specific speed camera, as 395 joins 295 near the Maine Ave exit, is really ill-advised. That is a high traffic merge area. Now that people know it is there, people start slamming on their brakes while other people are trying to merge, making a totally unpredictable and dangerous traffic flow. This is going to cause, and not prevent, an accident. 

                                          Thanks for this forum. 

                                          Faye Black 
                                          Michigan Park 

                                          On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Mr. Keith Jarrell <keith.k.jarrell@...> wrote:
                                           

                                          It wouldn't hurt to slow some of these police cars down as well. Especially when they are making a lunch run and exceeding the limit by more than 20 miles per hour at times.  Speed of this nature should include them running lights and sound and only if they are on an emergency.

                                          Far too many times I notice them driving too fast, talking on cell phones with no ear bud and being anything but cautious.


                                          On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Lanier, Cathy (MPD) <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:
                                           

                                          JWhitfield, Yes, I live there and I know it is just around the bend. It is hard to exceed the limit after making that turn but we will make sure it is more visible. Thanks

                                           

                                          Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                                            



                                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                                          Cc: gbonilla@... <gbonilla@...>; MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>
                                          Sent: Sat Sep 08 12:45:10 2012
                                          Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                                           

                                          Chief Lanier... There is a new camera set up on South Dakota Ave NE just before V Street.. If you are leaving the neighborhood making a left onto South Dakota there is no speed limit sign before you get to the camera. Most folks living in the neighborhood only take this route and may not know the actual speed limit.


                                          Sent from my iPad

                                          On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                                           

                                          What area Geovani?

                                           

                                          Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way.  September is National Emergency Preparedness Month.  To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.

                                            



                                          From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                          Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                          Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                                          Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                                           

                                           

                                          Geovani A. Bonilla

                                          Bates Area Civic Association

                                          Email: gbonilla@...

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                                                                                                                           




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                                        • Bianca Lamar
                                          GREAT advice Matthew. I haven t considered that as an option yet. Sent from my iPhone ... GREAT advice Matthew. I haven t considered that as an option yet.
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                                            GREAT advice Matthew. I haven't considered that as an option yet. 

                                            Sent from my iPhone

                                            On Sep 10, 2012, at 2:47 PM, "Matthew" <mtn1414@...> wrote:

                                             

                                            "I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may
                                            have to offer."

                                            Stop speeding.

                                            --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, Bianca Lamar <blamar132@...> wrote:
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                                            > I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled in the Fall 2012 semester because of this. I see the "Photo Enforced" signage but the speed is sometimes not posted. As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around. The mobile cameras that you guys deploy and move around to new areas are also tricky to abide by. Feel free to look into my ticket history.
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                                            > I understand that the cameras help with pedestrian safety and that car accidents in the district have been lowered dramatically. But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account. I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer.
                                            >
                                            > Thanks so much,
                                            >
                                            > Struggling Student
                                            > B. Lamar
                                            >
                                            > Sent from my iPhone
                                            >
                                            > On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:
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                                            > > What area Geovani?
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                                            > > Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way. September is National Emergency Preparedness Month. To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.
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                                            > > From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                                            > > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                            > > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                            > > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
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                                            > > Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage. So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.
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                                          • Bernat, Edward (MPD)
                                            The Speed and Red Light Cameras are in place to reduce accidents and to save lives. When ever a person travels at a slower speed the reaction time is greater.
                                            Message 21 of 25 , Sep 10, 2012
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                                              The Speed and Red Light Cameras are in place to reduce accidents and to save lives.  When ever a person travels at a slower speed the reaction time is greater.  The difference between hitting a person at 25 MPH and 35 MPH could be life or death for all parties involved.  The penalty for being cited by the camera is a civil fine and does not carry any points, as opposed to any citation given by and officers which would carry points against the driver.  The easiest way to prevent paying the fine is to obey the speed limit or traffic control lights.  By doing this you would prevent the city or any jurisdiction from making any revenues. But making revenue is not the goal of this technology.

                                               

                                              DCMR Title 18 covers traffic regulations in the city.  Section 2200 covers the speed restrictions in the District of Columbia .  Section 2200.06 reads, as follows:

                                               

                                              On all streets and highways, unless otherwise designated in accordance with § 2200.2, the maximum lawful speed shall be twenty-five miles per hour (25 mph).

                                               

                                              I would also invite you to read sections 2200.1, 2200.2 and 2200.3.  Section 2200.3 could get you a ticket regardless of the posted speed limits should you get cited for driving at a speed which is unreasonable for the traffic conditions, such are rain, snow or construction.

                                               

                                              2200.1     Except when a special hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with this section, the limits specified in this section, or established as authorized in § 2200.2, shall be the maximum lawful speeds, and no person shall drive a vehicle on a street or highway at a speed in excess of such maximum limits.

                                               

                                              2200.2  Whenever the Mayor determines, upon the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation made by the Director, that any speed limit set forth in this section is greater or less than is reasonable or safe under the conditions found to exist at any intersection or other place or upon any part of a street or highway, he or she may determine and declare a reasonable and safe speed limit which shall be effective at all times, during the hours of daylight or darkness, or at such other times as may be determined when appropriate signs giving notice of the speed limits are erected at such intersections or other place or part of the highway.

                                               

                                              2200.3     No person shall drive a vehicle on a street or highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing.

                                               

                                               

                                              Anywhere in the United States the speed limit for residential areas are 25 mph unless otherwise posted. I have been on the police department  long enough to have seen the difference in damage and injury from a crash being struck at 25 mph or less as opposed to 35 mph.  There is a huge difference in injury. 

                                               

                                              If you travel from one location to another at 25 mph and then at 35 mph the difference in arrival time is so insignificant that it makes no sense in speeding and possibly putting children at risk of injury or even death.  Trust me if you were to seriously injure someone from negligence by speeding the cost would far greater to you and your family than the fine placed on you by the city.  

                                               

                                              I hope this answers any questions about the cameras and speed limits.

                                               

                                               

                                              Edward R. Bernat

                                              Lieutenant

                                               

                                              Patrol Services and School Security Bureau

                                              Fifth District

                                              1805 Bladensburg Road, N.E.

                                              Washington, D.C. 20002

                                              Office - 202-698-0268

                                              Cell- 202-359-4240

                                              Email: edward.bernat@...

                                                 

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                                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Leemah
                                              Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:04 PM
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?

                                               

                                               

                                              Perhaps investigating the makers of the cameras, when and how they are calibrated, what are the accuracy percentages, their reliability any defects, etc.

                                              Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


                                              From: " brian .ions" < brian .ions@...>

                                              Sender: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com

                                              Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:48:26 +0000

                                              To: < MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com >

                                              ReplyTo: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com

                                              Subject: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?

                                               

                                               

                                              Geovani, generally, ignorance of the law is no defense against its enforcement.

                                              So I'm curious. What DC code are you referencing and how does it read? And how specifically is the law being violated by the use of mobile speed cams?

                                              In my experience, Virginia is much tougher on speed limit enforcement than the District. Lower speeds always allow a driver more time to react safely to unexpected conditions. Given DC's dense population, with its crazy L'Enfant street layout and many kid pedestrians (always an unpredictable driving situation), I can't fault the chiefs at all for trying to save lives and limbs with tough speed limit enforcement.

                                              brian /
                                              504


                                              --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , " Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                                              What area Geovani?

                                                


                                              From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com < MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com >; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                              Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                              Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                                              Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                                               

                                               

                                              Geovani A. Bonilla

                                              Bates Area Civic Association

                                              Email: gbonilla@...

                                               

                                               

                                            • brian.ions
                                              You re partially right, Daniel, in that cam enforcement nearly always saves taxpayer revenues by more efficiently allocating PD s and sheriff s patrol forces.
                                              Message 22 of 25 , Sep 11, 2012
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                                                You're partially right, Daniel, in that cam enforcement nearly always saves taxpayer revenues by more efficiently allocating PD's and sheriff's patrol forces. That's a very good thing, as it provides more speeder deterrence bang for taxpayer bucks.

                                                However, your cynicism is still mistaken. There is no doubt that parents (AND aunts and uncles, grandparents, etc.) everywhere have little or no sympathy for speeders who thoughtlessly endanger the lives and limbs of their little children-- little children who trust their elders in their communities to provide a safe environment for them. But politicians, their prosecutors and law enforcement agencies aren't just responding to the public they serve and their own job experiences. Political leaders, lawyers, judges and cops have kids, grandkids and nieces and nephews, too.

                                                You are very mistaken if you don't understand how deeply committed PDs, state patrols and sheriff's offices (in our region and all over the country) are to the public safety of their communities' pedestrians and safe drivers -- and especially that of their communities' kids threatened by careless speeders.

                                                Hurling hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds of steel down a highway, street or road is a privilege, not a right. Speeding is a learned, bad habit-- usually from youth. It's often a mindset, too. Those who suffer from this dangerous habit need only develop new habits to overcome their threat to others-- the sooner, the better.

                                                Matthew and Matt are right. Speeders should simply stop speeding, and pay their tickets with good cheer. Most importantly, they ought learn from the experience.

                                                brian
                                                (recovering speeder)

                                                PS - Use the cruise control, too, speeders. On most vehicles it's good down to 25 mph. Who knew?
                                                :D

                                                --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Chapman <dchapmanz@...> wrote:

                                                Brian,

                                                Camera enforcement is in place to create revenue, not to save "lives and limbs." it's all about the money.



                                                 To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                                > From: brian.ions@...
                                                > Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:48:26 +0000
                                                > Subject: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?
                                                >
                                                > Geovani, generally, ignorance of the law is no defense against its enforcement.
                                                >
                                                > So I'm curious. What DC code are you referencing and how does it read? And how specifically is the law being violated by the use of mobile speed cams?
                                                >
                                                > In my experience, Virginia is much tougher on speed limit enforcement than the District. Lower speeds always allow a driver more time to react safely to unexpected conditions. Given DC's dense population, with its crazy L'Enfant street layout and many kid pedestrians (always an unpredictable driving situation), I can't fault the chiefs at all for trying to save lives and limbs with tough speed limit enforcement.
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                                                > --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" cathy.lanier@ wrote:
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                                                > What area Geovani?
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                                                > From: Geovani A Bonilla gbonilla@
                                                > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                                > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                                > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage. So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.
                                                >
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                                                > Geovani A. Bonilla
                                                > Bates Area Civic Association
                                                > Email: gbonilla@
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                                              • Matthew
                                                If you re not enrolled in college because of the cost of your speeding tickets, apparently you haven t considered that as an option. Want some more advice,
                                                Message 23 of 25 , Sep 11, 2012
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                                                  If you're not enrolled in college because of the cost of your speeding tickets, apparently you haven't considered that as an option.

                                                  Want some more advice, based on your original message:

                                                  "As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around."

                                                  How about you slow down and drive the speed limit regardless of whether you suspect a speed camera is in the area. You're not supposed to obey the law only when you believe you might get caught - you're supposed to always obey it.

                                                  "But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account."

                                                  Having never been in an accident doesn't mean you get to speed. The speed limit applies to everyone, regardless of their driving talents.


                                                  --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, Bianca Lamar <blamar132@...> wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > GREAT advice Matthew. I haven't considered that as an option yet.
                                                  >
                                                  > Sent from my iPhone
                                                  >
                                                  > On Sep 10, 2012, at 2:47 PM, "Matthew" <mtn1414@...> wrote:
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                                                  > > "I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may
                                                  > > have to offer."
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                                                  > > Stop speeding.
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                                                  > > --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, Bianca Lamar <blamar132@> wrote:
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                                                  > > > I agree with Geovani. I am a student at Howard U and I have had to use tuition money to pay off tickets and avoid getting a boot 2-3 times. I am not enrolled in the Fall 2012 semester because of this. I see the "Photo Enforced" signage but the speed is sometimes not posted. As of late, I've started to just slow down to 25 mph whenever I suspect a camera is around. The mobile cameras that you guys deploy and move around to new areas are also tricky to abide by. Feel free to look into my ticket history.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > I understand that the cameras help with pedestrian safety and that car accidents in the district have been lowered dramatically. But for me, someone who has luckily never been involved in an accident, the cameras have just been a vacuum on my savings account. I'd appreciate any advice or help with this that you may have to offer.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Thanks so much,
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                                                  > > > Struggling Student
                                                  > > > B. Lamar
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                                                  > > > Sent from my iPhone
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                                                  > > > On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@> wrote:
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                                                  > > > > What area Geovani?
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                                                  > > > > Plan TODAY for whatx2019;s on the way. September is National Emergency Preparedness Month. To learn how to prepare & to sign up for critical emergency alerts, go to www.72hours.dc.gov.
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                                                  > > > > From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@>
                                                  > > > > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                                  > > > > Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                                  > > > > Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)
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                                                • Peter Vail
                                                  L. Bernat, My concern is that I do not believe there is adequate speed limit signage before the camera right after the Maine Ave exit on 395. Tack marks on the
                                                  Message 24 of 25 , Sep 11, 2012
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                                                    L. Bernat,

                                                    My concern is that I do not believe there is adequate speed limit signage before the camera right after the Maine Ave exit on 395. Tack marks on the lanes are a poor indicator.  I am not certain if the cameras installed on Florida Ave NE on the traffic light at the Gallaudet main entrance are for speeding - but there is certainly inadequate signage there as well.

                                                    Cameras aren't my issue. If you want people to drive the speed limit, the first step should be communicating what the speed limit is.

                                                    Thanks,

                                                    Pete




                                                    To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                                    From: Edward.Bernat@...
                                                    Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:52:46 -0400
                                                    Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?

                                                     

                                                    The Speed and Red Light Cameras are in place to reduce accidents and to save lives.  When ever a person travels at a slower speed the reaction time is greater.  The difference between hitting a person at 25 MPH and 35 MPH could be life or death for all parties involved.  The penalty for being cited by the camera is a civil fine and does not carry any points, as opposed to any citation given by and officers which would carry points against the driver.  The easiest way to prevent paying the fine is to obey the speed limit or traffic control lights.  By doing this you would prevent the city or any jurisdiction from making any revenues. But making revenue is not the goal of this technology.

                                                     

                                                    DCMR Title 18 covers traffic regulations in the city.  Section 2200 covers the speed restrictions in the District of Columbia.  Section 2200.06 reads, as follows:

                                                     

                                                    On all streets and highways, unless otherwise designated in accordance with § 2200.2, the maximum lawful speed shall be twenty-five miles per hour (25 mph).

                                                     

                                                    I would also invite you to read sections 2200.1, 2200.2 and 2200.3.  Section 2200.3 could get you a ticket regardless of the posted speed limits should you get cited for driving at a speed which is unreasonable for the traffic conditions, such are rain, snow or construction.

                                                     

                                                    2200.1     Except when a special hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with this section, the limits specified in this section, or established as authorized in § 2200.2, shall be the maximum lawful speeds, and no person shall drive a vehicle on a street or highway at a speed in excess of such maximum limits.

                                                     

                                                    2200.2  Whenever the Mayor determines, upon the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation made by the Director, that any speed limit set forth in this section is greater or less than is reasonable or safe under the conditions found to exist at any intersection or other place or upon any part of a street or highway, he or she may determine and declare a reasonable and safe speed limit which shall be effective at all times, during the hours of daylight or darkness, or at such other times as may be determined when appropriate signs giving notice of the speed limits are erected at such intersections or other place or part of the highway.

                                                     

                                                    2200.3     No person shall drive a vehicle on a street or highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing.

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Anywhere in the United States the speed limit for residential areas are 25 mph unless otherwise posted. I have been on the police department  long enough to have seen the difference in damage and injury from a crash being struck at 25 mph or less as opposed to 35 mph.  There is a huge difference in injury. 

                                                     

                                                    If you travel from one location to another at 25 mph and then at 35 mph the difference in arrival time is so insignificant that it makes no sense in speeding and possibly putting children at risk of injury or even death.  Trust me if you were to seriously injure someone from negligence by speeding the cost would far greater to you and your family than the fine placed on you by the city.  

                                                     

                                                    I hope this answers any questions about the cameras and speed limits.

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Edward R. Bernat

                                                    Lieutenant

                                                     

                                                    Patrol Services and School Security Bureau

                                                    Fifth District

                                                    1805 Bladensburg Road, N.E.

                                                    Washington, D.C. 20002

                                                    Office - 202-698-0268

                                                    Cell- 202-359-4240

                                                    Email: edward.bernat@...

                                                       

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                                                    From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leemah
                                                    Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:04 PM
                                                    To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Perhaps investigating the makers of the cameras, when and how they are calibrated, what are the accuracy percentages, their reliability any defects, etc.

                                                    Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


                                                    From: "brian.ions" <brian.ions@...>

                                                    Sender: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com

                                                    Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:48:26 +0000

                                                    To: <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>

                                                    ReplyTo: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com

                                                    Subject: [MPD-5D] Speed Limits: What's love got to do with it?

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Geovani, generally, ignorance of the law is no defense against its enforcement.

                                                    So I'm curious. What DC code are you referencing and how does it read? And how specifically is the law being violated by the use of mobile speed cams?

                                                    In my experience, Virginia is much tougher on speed limit enforcement than the District. Lower speeds always allow a driver more time to react safely to unexpected conditions. Given DC's dense population, with its crazy L'Enfant street layout and many kid pedestrians (always an unpredictable driving situation), I can't fault the chiefs at all for trying to save lives and limbs with tough speed limit enforcement.

                                                    brian/
                                                    504



                                                    --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Lanier, Cathy (MPD)" <cathy.lanier@...> wrote:

                                                    What area Geovani?

                                                      


                                                    From: Geovani A Bonilla <gbonilla@...>
                                                    To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com <MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com>; Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
                                                    Sent: Sat Sep 08 10:32:54 2012
                                                    Subject: Love Letters from Chief Lanier (Not So Nice)

                                                    Chief you know I love you and am a big fan, but I don’t enjoy getting love letters from you. Those mobile speeding cameras are killing me. I would rather make a $125 donation to MPD directly. The issues that I have with some of the love letters is that speed limits are not posted in many of the areas where the mobile speed cameras are being placed; DC ordinance required that for the fine to be enforceable, there MUST be visible signage.  So I suggest MPD really considers this law before placing cameras all over the place to ensure that a law abiding (though not always speed abiding) citizen thinks that he/she is okay driving at 35 MPH due to lack of speed limit signs and get a nice love letter from MPD because the actual speed limit is 25 MPH.

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Geovani A. Bonilla

                                                    Bates Area Civic Association

                                                    Email: gbonilla@...

                                                     

                                                     


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