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  • John Galt
    Check this out http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from these encounters in
    Message 1 of 24 , Apr 25, 2006
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      Check this out
       
      There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from these encounters in the yard.

      silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
      Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block with
      prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
      done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what can I
      do.






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    • cl_cousart
      I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for prostitution. It s the same situation as with drug addicts and drunks - we are not going
      Message 2 of 24 , Apr 25, 2006
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        I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
        prostitution. It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
        drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
        individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
        conduct their business next to our homes and children. I've read
        about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
        tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
        websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

        I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
        like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
        the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
        socioeconomic status etc.

        Thanks in advance



        --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
        >
        > Check this out
        > http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
        >
        > There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
        these encounters in the yard.
        >
        > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
        > Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
        with
        > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
        are
        > done. Have had confrontations before. Tag numbers, Photos what
        can I
        > do.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Policing for Prevention
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      • cl_cousart
        I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for prostitution. It s the same situation as with drug addicts and drunks - we are not going
        Message 3 of 24 , Apr 25, 2006
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          I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
          prostitution. It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
          drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
          individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
          conduct their business next to our homes and children. I've read
          about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
          tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
          websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

          I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
          like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
          the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
          socioeconomic status etc.

          Thanks in advance



          --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
          >
          > Check this out
          > http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
          >
          > There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
          these encounters in the yard.
          >
          > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
          > Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
          with
          > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
          are
          > done. Have had confrontations before. Tag numbers, Photos what
          can I
          > do.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > Policing for Prevention
          >
          >
          >
          > ---------------------------------
          > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
          >
          >
          > Visit your group "MPD-5D" on the web.
          >
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        • Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)
          Thanks John, This is correct. The Omnibus Public Safety Act addresses prostitution, provides our police with additional tools to fight crime, and offers them
          Message 4 of 24 , Apr 25, 2006
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            Thanks John,

             

            This is correct. The Omnibus Public Safety Act addresses prostitution, provides our police with additional tools to fight crime, and offers them increased protections. Councilmember Phil Mendelson (if I am not mistaken) will move the legislation out his committee shortly.

             

            Sincerely,

             

            Kathy Henderson, 5B10

             


            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of John Galt
            Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:27 AM
            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Prostitutes and Johns

             

            Check this out

             

            There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from these encounters in the yard.

            silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:

            Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block with
            prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
            done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what can I
            do.





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          • melinafzal
            Hi all, One piece of the problem is the laws against johns and pimps are relatively weak. Johns get a slap on the hand while a sex workers tend to take the
            Message 5 of 24 , Apr 25, 2006
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              Hi all,

              One piece of the problem is the laws against johns and pimps are relatively weak. Johns
              get a slap on the hand while a sex workers tend to take the brunt of it on a variety levels
              (jail time, violence from the pimp, mjor fines,etc. ) It is very difficult to arrest a pimp for
              pimping let alone have it hold up in court. A slower but a more long term solution is to
              advocate with council members to strengthen those laws.

              In regards to Mendelson's Omnibus Bill, it doesn't directly address these weaker laws. It
              encourages more arrests, which clog up our court system. Sex workers need support
              systems to get out of the business, ie housing, drug treatment, job training, etc. Those
              support systems seriously lack in our city. Reality is sex work exists b/c there is a market
              for it. It isn't going to go anywhere.

              As an fyi, Johns come from all walks of life. A John is a John, they are every race, class,
              age, & marital status. Many do come from Md & Va., depending from the nieghborhood
              you live in (if you r closer to Md, then u get Md. drivers). There use to be a John school,
              however, due to funding I hear that is no longer happening. Does anyone know about that?

              I know these are not any quick fixes for the immediate problems, not many people know
              about the complexities involved w/ sex work field. Change is a process, which
              sometimes takes great patience. In addition, I find that when I have a conversation and say
              hello to a community drug dealer, sex workers, etc, they tend to not conduct business
              near my property.

              Also, think about contacting Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive to learn more about the
              laws and the sex work industry. They are a great resource for community education and
              support for sex workers.


              Melina

              --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette \(MPD\)" <Fayette.Vaughn-
              Lee@...> wrote:
              >
              > Good question, thanks for posing it. Teams of police officers and volunteer citizens are
              currently forming problem solving groups to identify and solve neighborhood crime
              problems using a five-step problem-solving model. At these sessions, you and your
              neighbors identify the problems in your community and agree on which ones to tackle
              first. Then, you will work with your PSA Lieutenants, Officers and other Agencies to design
              and implement solutions to eliminate or reduce the harm of these problems. I invite and
              encourage you to become a part of this process; Partnerships for Problem Solving is
              Community Policing in action. Please consider joining your neighbors and your PSA team
              in this important project. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:
              office:office" />
              >
              >
              >
              > Do not put yourself at risk as you work to improve your community. Work with others.
              >
              >
              >
              > Upcoming meeting in the 5th District
              >
              > <http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/
              view,a,3,q,553878,mpdcNav_GID,1523,mpdcNav,|,.asp> http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/
              view,a,3,q,553878,mpdcNav_GID,1523,mpdcNav,|,.asp
              >
              > Get Involved
              >
              > <http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,3,q,548369,mpdcNav_GID,1530.asp> http://
              mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,3,q,548369,mpdcNav_GID,1530.asp
              >
              >
              >
              > Fayette
              >
              > 5th District Community Outreach Coordinator
              >
              > 202 698-0188
              >
              > <mailto:fayette.vaughn-lee@...> fayette.vaughn-lee@...
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
              silent_warrior246
              > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:25 AM
              > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [MPD-5D] Prostitutes and Johns
              >
              >
              > Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block with
              > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
              > done. Have had confrontations before. Tag numbers, Photos what can I
              > do.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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            • Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)
              Good Afternoon All, Title XXI of the Mayor s Omnibus Public Safety Act of 2005 strengthens existing laws to make prostitution a crime, which currently it is
              Message 6 of 24 , Apr 26, 2006
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                Good Afternoon All,

                Title XXI of the Mayor's "Omnibus Public Safety Act of 2005" strengthens
                existing laws to make prostitution a crime, which currently it is not. Phil
                Mendelson is the chairperson of the Judiciary Committee, which is the
                committee that is currently marking up the bill. I believe the Omnibus
                Public Safety Act will provide our police with additional tools to protect
                citizen's interests. Admittedly, some may be inclined to understand and
                offer support to prostitutes; however, the majority of citizens do not want
                prostitution in our communities and depend on our police to address the
                problem.

                Finally, I believe the "Omnibus Public Safety Act of 2005" is a very
                important piece of legislation, which is why I provided copies to my
                constituents. Citizens need every available resource to ensure our
                communities are safe and support a good quality of life.

                Sincerely,

                Kathy Henderson, 5B10

                -----Original Message-----
                From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                melinafzal
                Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:28 PM
                To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                Hi all,

                One piece of the problem is the laws against johns and pimps are relatively
                weak. Johns
                get a slap on the hand while a sex workers tend to take the brunt of it on a
                variety levels
                (jail time, violence from the pimp, mjor fines,etc. ) It is very difficult
                to arrest a pimp for
                pimping let alone have it hold up in court. A slower but a more long term
                solution is to
                advocate with council members to strengthen those laws.

                In regards to Mendelson's Omnibus Bill, it doesn't directly address these
                weaker laws. It
                encourages more arrests, which clog up our court system. Sex workers need
                support
                systems to get out of the business, ie housing, drug treatment, job
                training, etc. Those
                support systems seriously lack in our city. Reality is sex work exists b/c
                there is a market
                for it. It isn't going to go anywhere.

                As an fyi, Johns come from all walks of life. A John is a John, they are
                every race, class,
                age, & marital status. Many do come from Md & Va., depending from the
                nieghborhood
                you live in (if you r closer to Md, then u get Md. drivers). There use to be
                a John school,
                however, due to funding I hear that is no longer happening. Does anyone know
                about that?

                I know these are not any quick fixes for the immediate problems, not many
                people know
                about the complexities involved w/ sex work field. Change is a process,
                which
                sometimes takes great patience. In addition, I find that when I have a
                conversation and say
                hello to a community drug dealer, sex workers, etc, they tend to not conduct
                business
                near my property.

                Also, think about contacting Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive to learn
                more about the
                laws and the sex work industry. They are a great resource for community
                education and
                support for sex workers.


                Melina

                --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette \(MPD\)"
                <Fayette.Vaughn-
                Lee@...> wrote:
                >
                > Good question, thanks for posing it. Teams of police officers and
                volunteer citizens are
                currently forming problem solving groups to identify and solve neighborhood
                crime
                problems using a five-step problem-solving model. At these sessions, you and
                your
                neighbors identify the problems in your community and agree on which ones to
                tackle
                first. Then, you will work with your PSA Lieutenants, Officers and other
                Agencies to design
                and implement solutions to eliminate or reduce the harm of these problems.
                I invite and
                encourage you to become a part of this process; Partnerships for Problem
                Solving is
                Community Policing in action. Please consider joining your neighbors and
                your PSA team
                in this important project. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
                "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:
                office:office" />
                >
                >
                >
                > Do not put yourself at risk as you work to improve your community. Work
                with others.
                >
                >
                >
                > Upcoming meeting in the 5th District
                >
                > <http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/
                view,a,3,q,553878,mpdcNav_GID,1523,mpdcNav,|,.asp>
                http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/
                view,a,3,q,553878,mpdcNav_GID,1523,mpdcNav,|,.asp
                >
                > Get Involved
                >
                > <http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,3,q,548369,mpdcNav_GID,1530.asp>
                http://
                mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,3,q,548369,mpdcNav_GID,1530.asp
                >
                >
                >
                > Fayette
                >
                > 5th District Community Outreach Coordinator
                >
                > 202 698-0188
                >
                > <mailto:fayette.vaughn-lee@...> fayette.vaughn-lee@...
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
                silent_warrior246
                > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:25 AM
                > To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: [MPD-5D] Prostitutes and Johns
                >
                >
                > Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block with
                > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
                > done. Have had confrontations before. Tag numbers, Photos what can I
                > do.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
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              • DCReardon@AOL.COM
                We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city. the Addiction
                Message 7 of 24 , Apr 27, 2006
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                  We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                   
                  And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                   
                  Chris Kelly
                  Director
                  Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                  Washington DC Chapter
                  www.armmat.org
                   
                   
                  In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                  I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                  prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                  drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                  individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                  conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                  about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                  tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                  websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                  I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                  like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                  the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                  socioeconomic status etc.

                  Thanks in advance

                    

                  --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com, John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Check this out
                  >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                  >   
                  >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                  these encounters in the yard.
                  >
                  > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                  >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                  with
                  > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                  are
                  > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                  can I
                  > do.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Policing for Prevention
                  >
                  >
                  >    
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                • Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)
                  Chris, I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals
                  Message 8 of 24 , Apr 27, 2006
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                    Chris,

                     

                    I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.

                     

                    Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.

                     

                    Sincerely,

                     

                    Kathy Henderson, 5B10

                     


                    From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                    Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                    To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                     

                    We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.

                     

                    And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.

                     

                    Chris Kelly

                    Director

                    Advocates for Recovery through Medicine

                    Washington DC Chapter

                    www.armmat.org

                     

                     

                    In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:

                    I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                    prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                    drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                    individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                    conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                    about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                    tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                    websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                    I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                    like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                    the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                    socioeconomic status etc.

                    Thanks in advance

                      

                    --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Check this out
                    >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                    >   
                    >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                    these encounters in the yard.
                    >
                    > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                    >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                    with
                    > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                    are
                    > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                    can I
                    > do.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Policing for Prevention
                    >
                    >
                    >    
                    > ---------------------------------
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                    >
                    >    
                    >     Visit your group "MPD-5D" on the web.
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                  • TruxtonResident
                    Ms Henderson, I don t see how you can say we are becoming a safer community when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue
                    Message 9 of 24 , Apr 28, 2006
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                      Ms Henderson,
                       
                      I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                       
                      I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                       
                      TR


                      "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                      Chris,
                       
                      I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                       
                      Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                       
                      Sincerely,
                       
                      Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                       

                      From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                      Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                       
                      We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                       
                      And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                       
                      Chris Kelly
                      Director
                      Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                      Washington DC Chapter
                      www.armmat.org
                       
                       
                      In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                      I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                      prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                      drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                      individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                      conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                      about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                      tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                      websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                      I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                      like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                      the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                      socioeconomic status etc.

                      Thanks in advance

                        

                      --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Check this out
                      >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                      >   
                      >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                      these encounters in the yard.
                      >
                      > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                      >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                      with
                      > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                      are
                      > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                      can I
                      > do.
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                    • Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)
                      Dear TR, I think you misunderstood my response. I was speaking of the community I represent, ANC 5B10. I maintain that consistent enforcement does work. Police
                      Message 10 of 24 , Apr 28, 2006
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                        Dear TR,

                         

                        I think you misunderstood my response. I was speaking of the community I represent, ANC 5B10. I maintain that consistent enforcement does work. Police are definitely part of the enforcement strategy but they cannot do it alone.  I know that you and your neighbors have genuine concerns that I would love to help you address; however, I cannot do so in my capacity as a commissioner for another area. Please feel free to contact me offline at (202) 397-2777, I would like to discuss this matter further with you.

                         

                        Sincerely,

                         

                        Kathy

                         


                        From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                        Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:51 AM
                        To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                         

                        Ms Henderson,

                         

                        I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.

                         

                        I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.

                         

                        TR


                        " Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:

                        Chris,

                         

                        I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.

                         

                        Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.

                         

                        Sincerely,

                         

                        Kathy Henderson, 5B10

                         


                        From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                        To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                         

                        We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.

                         

                        And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.

                         

                        Chris Kelly

                        Director

                        Advocates for Recovery through Medicine

                        Washington DC Chapter

                        www.armmat.org

                         

                         

                        In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:

                        I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                        prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                        drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                        individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                        conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                        about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                        tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                        websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                        I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                        like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                        the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                        socioeconomic status etc.

                        Thanks in advance

                          

                        --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Check this out
                        >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                        >   
                        >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                        these encounters in the yard.
                        >
                        > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                        >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                        with
                        > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                        are
                        > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                        can I
                        > do.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
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                      • Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)
                        Good Morning All, I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when
                        Message 11 of 24 , Apr 28, 2006
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                          Good Morning All,

                           

                          I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.

                           

                          I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.

                            

                          Fayette Vaughn-Lee

                          fayette.vaughn@...

                          Community Outreach Coordinator 5D

                          202 698-0188

                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                          Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                          Ms Henderson,
                           
                          I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                           
                          I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                           
                          TR


                          "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                          Chris,
                           
                          I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                           
                          Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                           
                          Sincerely,
                           
                          Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                           

                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                          Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                           
                          We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                           
                          And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                           
                          Chris Kelly
                          Director
                          Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                          Washington DC Chapter
                          www.armmat.org
                           
                           
                          In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                          I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                          prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                          drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                          individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                          conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                          about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                          tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                          websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                          I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                          like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                          the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                          socioeconomic status etc.

                          Thanks in advance

                            

                          --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Check this out
                          >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                          >   
                          >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                          these encounters in the yard.
                          >
                          > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                          >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                          with
                          > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                          are
                          > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                          can I
                          > do.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
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                        • Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)
                          I would love to participate in a walk-through; just provide the time and I will be there. Sincerely, Kathy Henderson _____ From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                          Message 12 of 24 , Apr 28, 2006
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                            I would love to participate in a walk-through; just provide the time and I will be there.

                             

                            Sincerely,

                             

                            Kathy Henderson

                             


                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)
                            Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:39 AM
                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                             

                            Good Morning All,

                             

                            I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.

                             

                            I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street.   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.

                             

                            Fayette Vaughn-Lee

                            fayette.vaughn@...

                            Community Outreach Coordinator 5D

                            202 698-0188

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                            Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                            Ms Henderson,

                             

                            I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.

                             

                            I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.

                             

                            TR


                            " Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:

                            Chris,

                             

                            I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.

                             

                            Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.

                             

                            Sincerely,

                             

                            Kathy Henderson, 5B10

                             


                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                            Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                             

                            We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.

                             

                            And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.

                             

                            Chris Kelly

                            Director

                            Advocates for Recovery through Medicine

                            Washington DC Chapter

                            www.armmat.org

                             

                             

                            In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:

                            I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                            prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                            drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                            individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                            conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                            about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                            tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                            websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                            I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                            like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                            the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                            socioeconomic status etc.

                            Thanks in advance

                              

                            --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Check this out
                            >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                            >   
                            >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                            these encounters in the yard.
                            >
                            > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                            >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                            with
                            > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                            are
                            > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                            can I
                            > do.
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Policing for Prevention
                            >
                            >
                            >    
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                          • TruxtonResident
                            Ms. Vaughn-Lee, I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials ....
                            Message 13 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                              Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                               
                              I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                               
                              Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                               
                              The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                               
                              TR


                              "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                              Good Morning All,
                               
                              I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                               
                              I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                
                              Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                              Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                              202 698-0188
                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                              Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                              Ms Henderson,
                               
                              I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                               
                              I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                               
                              TR


                              "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                              Chris,
                               
                              I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                               
                              Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                               
                              Sincerely,
                               
                              Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                               

                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                              Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                               
                              We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                               
                              And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                               
                              Chris Kelly
                              Director
                              Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                              Washington DC Chapter
                              www.armmat.org
                               
                               
                              In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                              I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                              prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                              drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                              individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                              conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                              about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                              tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                              websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                              I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                              like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                              the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                              socioeconomic status etc.

                              Thanks in advance

                                

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                              > Check this out
                              >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                              >   
                              >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                              these encounters in the yard.
                              >
                              > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                              >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                              with
                              > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                              are
                              > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                              can I
                              > do.
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                            • Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)
                              A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved. Let s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our
                              Message 14 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                                A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)

                                 

                                Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 

                                TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                                 
                                I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                                 
                                Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                                 
                                The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                                 
                                TR


                                "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                Good Morning All,
                                 
                                I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                                 
                                I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                  
                                Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                                Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                                202 698-0188
                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                Ms Henderson,
                                 
                                I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                                 
                                I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                                 
                                TR


                                "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                                Chris,
                                 
                                I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                                 
                                Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                                 
                                Sincerely,
                                 
                                Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                                 

                                From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                To:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                 
                                We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                                 
                                And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                                 
                                Chris Kelly
                                Director
                                Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                                Washington DC Chapter
                                www.armmat.org
                                 
                                 
                                In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                                I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                socioeconomic status etc.

                                Thanks in advance

                                  

                                --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Check this out
                                >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                                >   
                                >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                                these encounters in the yard.
                                >
                                > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                with
                                > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                are
                                > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                can I
                                > do.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
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                              • DCReardon@AOL.COM
                                We have been having walk throughs in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has
                                Message 15 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                                  We have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer.  Remember Hanover of the 1980's?  IMHO, we need to take a new approach.
                                   
                                   
                                  In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                  A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)

                                   

                                  Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 

                                  TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                  To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                  Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                                   
                                  I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                                   
                                  Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                                   
                                  The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                                   
                                  TR


                                  "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                  Good Morning All,
                                   
                                  I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                                   
                                  I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                    
                                  Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                                  Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                                  202 698-0188
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                  To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                  Ms Henderson,
                                   
                                  I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                                   
                                  I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                                   
                                  TR


                                  "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                                  Chris,
                                   
                                  I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                                   
                                  Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                                   
                                  Sincerely,
                                   
                                  Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                                   

                                  From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                  To:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                   
                                  We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                                   
                                  And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                                   
                                  Chris Kelly
                                  Director
                                  Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                                  Washington DC Chapter
                                  www.armmat.org
                                   
                                   
                                  In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                                  I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                  prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                  drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                  individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                  conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                  about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                  tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                  websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                  I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                  like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                  the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                  socioeconomic status etc.

                                  Thanks in advance

                                    

                                  --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Check this out
                                  >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                                  >   
                                  >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                                  these encounters in the yard.
                                  >
                                  > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                  >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                  with
                                  > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                  are
                                  > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                  can I
                                  > do.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Policing for Prevention
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >    
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                                • Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)
                                  Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law
                                  Message 16 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                                    Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law Enforcement (directed patrol, tactical initiatives, and follow-up investigations), Neighborhood Partnerships (collaboratively applying resources to repeat incidents to prevent them from reoccurring), and Systemic Prevention (projects which address the underlying causes and conditions of this issue) we intend to collapse this “crime triangle”.

                                     

                                    Your Community needs you - call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                    Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:35 AM
                                    To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                    We have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer.  Remember Hanover of the 1980's?  IMHO, we need to take a new approach.
                                     
                                     
                                    In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                    A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)

                                     

                                    Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 

                                    TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

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                                    From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                    Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                    To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                    Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                                     
                                    I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                                     
                                    Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                                     
                                    The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                                     
                                    TR


                                    "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                    Good Morning All,
                                     
                                    I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                                     
                                    I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                      
                                    Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                                    Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                                    202 698-0188
                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                    Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                    To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                    Ms Henderson,
                                     
                                    I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                                     
                                    I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                                     
                                    TR


                                    "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                                    Chris,
                                     
                                    I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                                     
                                    Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                                     
                                    Sincerely,
                                     
                                    Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                                     

                                    From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                    Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                    To:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                     
                                    We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                                     
                                    And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                                     
                                    Chris Kelly
                                    Director
                                    Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                                    Washington DC Chapter
                                    www.armmat.org
                                     
                                     
                                    In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                                    I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                    prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                    drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                    individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                    conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                    about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                    tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                    websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                    I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                    like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                    the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                    socioeconomic status etc.

                                    Thanks in advance

                                      

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                                    > Check this out
                                    >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                                    >   
                                    >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                                    these encounters in the yard.
                                    >
                                    > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                    >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                    with
                                    > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                    are
                                    > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                    can I
                                    > do.
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                                  • TruxtonResident
                                    I m sorry but I don t pay the high taxes that I do in DC to have to go out and do my own police, drug enforcement, drug addiction counseling, and prostitution
                                    Message 17 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                                      I'm sorry but I don't pay the high taxes that I do in DC to have to go out and do my own police, drug enforcement, drug addiction counseling, and prostitution clean-up. I am not trained IN ANY WAY to deal with these issues -- that's why we have the MPD and our DC government officials.
                                       
                                      And where are the churches in our neighborhood .. they don't seem to be concerned about their neighborhood at all ... maybe if they gave more consideration about actually helping their community and less about how they can convince the Mayor to allow them to illegally double park on Sundays, you'd get more of the "community" involvement you're clamoring for.
                                       
                                      I already take my life in my own hands EVERY DAY that I walk in my neighborhood ... why would I want to put myself and family in even greater risk letting this criminal element know that I'm in the Orange Hat brigade trying to get them off my streets.
                                       
                                      How many years have we been complaining about this area? You've had plenty of time for a plan to be developed and enacted ... WE NEED ACTION not more planning meetings on why the drug dealers/prostitutes are in our neighborhood ... we know why ... because it is a safe haven for them to do their business. They were out at 8:00 AM SUNDAY morning selling their drugs! No cops patroling the area = safe haven.  We were told we had foot patrols in our area ... however no one has seen a single one walk the beat along 1st St in the afternoon or mornings when we are all walking our dogs. We see what goes on in our neighborhoods and who comes and goes ... and we know who isn't there.
                                       
                                      You've had your walk-throughs, you've heard from us, now, let's see the action based upon that information.

                                      "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                      Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law Enforcement (directed patrol, tactical initiatives, and follow-up investigations), Neighborhood Partnerships (collaboratively applying resources to repeat incidents to prevent them from reoccurring), and Systemic Prevention (projects which address the underlying causes and conditions of this issue) we intend to collapse this “crime triangle”.
                                       
                                      Your Community needs you - call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188
                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                      Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:35 AM
                                      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                      We have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer.  Remember Hanover of the 1980's?  IMHO, we need to take a new approach.
                                       
                                       
                                      In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:
                                      A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)
                                       
                                      Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 
                                      TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188
                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                      Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                      Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                                       
                                      I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                                       
                                      Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                                       
                                      The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                                       
                                      TR


                                      "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                      Good Morning All,
                                       
                                      I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                                       
                                      I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                        
                                      Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                                      Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                                      202 698-0188
                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                      Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                      Ms Henderson,
                                       
                                      I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                                       
                                      I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                                       
                                      TR


                                      "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                                      Chris,
                                       
                                      I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                                       
                                      Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                                       
                                      Sincerely,
                                       
                                      Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                                       

                                      From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                      Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                      To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                       
                                      We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                                       
                                      And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                                       
                                      Chris Kelly
                                      Director
                                      Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                                      Washington DC Chapter
                                      www.armmat.org
                                       
                                       
                                      In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                                      I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                      prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                      drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                      individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                      conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                      about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                      tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                      websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                      I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                      like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                      the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                      socioeconomic status etc.

                                      Thanks in advance

                                        

                                      --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Check this out
                                      >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                                      >   
                                      >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                                      these encounters in the yard.
                                      >
                                      > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                      >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                      with
                                      > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                      are
                                      > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                      can I
                                      > do.
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Policing for Prevention
                                      >
                                      >
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                                    • DCReardon@AOL.COM
                                      The point is, all of these methods have been tried and have failed. Who are the we who intend to collapse the crime triangle ? We need to change our
                                      Message 18 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                                        The point is, all of these methods have been tried and have failed.  Who are the "we" who intend to "collapse the "crime triangle"?  We need to change our thinking on the entire drug use issue in America.
                                         
                                        In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:19:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                        Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law Enforcement (directed patrol, tactical initiatives, and follow-up investigations), Neighborhood Partnerships (collaboratively applying resources to repeat incidents to prevent them from reoccurring), and Systemic Prevention (projects which address the underlying causes and conditions of this issue) we intend to collapse this “crime triangle”.

                                         

                                        Your Community needs you - call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                        -----Original Message-----
                                        From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                        Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:35 AM
                                        To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                        We have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer.  Remember Hanover of the 1980's?  IMHO, we need to take a new approach.
                                         
                                         
                                        In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                        A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)

                                         

                                        Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 

                                        TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                        -----Original Message-----
                                        From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                        Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                        To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                        Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                                         
                                        I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                                         
                                        Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                                         
                                        The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                                         
                                        TR


                                        "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                        Good Morning All,
                                         
                                        I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                                         
                                        I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                          
                                        Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                                        Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                                        202 698-0188
                                        -----Original Message-----
                                        From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                        Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                        To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                        Ms Henderson,
                                         
                                        I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                                         
                                        I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                                         
                                        TR


                                        "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                                        Chris,
                                         
                                        I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                                         
                                        Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                                         
                                        Sincerely,
                                         
                                        Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                                         

                                        From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                        To:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                         
                                        We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                                         
                                        And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                                         
                                        Chris Kelly
                                        Director
                                        Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                                        Washington DC Chapter
                                        www.armmat.org
                                         
                                         
                                        In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                                        I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                        prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                        drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                        individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                        conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                        about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                        tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                        websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                        I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                        like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                        the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                        socioeconomic status etc.

                                        Thanks in advance

                                          

                                        --- InMPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
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                                        > Check this out
                                        >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                                        >   
                                        >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                                        these encounters in the yard.
                                        >
                                        > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                        >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                        with
                                        > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                        are
                                        > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                        can I
                                        > do.
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                                      • Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)
                                        Silent_warrior246 needed information on how to address cars stopping on their block with prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
                                        Message 19 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                                          Silent_warrior246 needed information on how to address cars stopping on their block with prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
                                          done.  Silent_warrior246 also wrote that “have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what can I do.” 

                                           

                                          Will you join your neighbors on Wednesday May 3, 2006 @ 6:30 PM at the corner of First and O streets NE.?  I am Fayette Vaughn-Lee Community Outreach Coordinator for the 5th  District, we are the people who are affected, the goal is to develop strategies that address the main issues What is it about 1st street that is conducive to prostitution.  How can we List serv members and people witnessing the problem help Silent_warrior246?   

                                          If any have the will to assist Silent_warrior246, and the others community members, please come.

                                          -----Original Message-----
                                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                          Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:09 AM
                                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                          The point is, all of these methods have been tried and have failed.  Who are the "we" who intend to "collapse the "crime triangle"?  We need to change our thinking on the entire drug use issue in America.
                                           
                                          In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:19:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                          Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law Enforcement (directed patrol, tactical initiatives, and follow-up investigations), Neighborhood Partnerships (collaboratively applying resources to repeat incidents to prevent them from reoccurring), and Systemic Prevention (projects which address the underlying causes and conditions of this issue) we intend to collapse this “crime triangle”.

                                           

                                          Your Community needs you - call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                          -----Original Message-----
                                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                          Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:35 AM
                                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                          We have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer.  Remember Hanover of the 1980's?  IMHO, we need to take a new approach.
                                           
                                           
                                          In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                          A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)

                                           

                                          Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 

                                          TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                          -----Original Message-----
                                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                          Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                          Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                                           
                                          I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                                           
                                          Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                                           
                                          The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                                           
                                          TR


                                          "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                          Good Morning All,
                                           
                                          I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                                           
                                          I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                            
                                          Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                                          Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                                          202 698-0188
                                          -----Original Message-----
                                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                          Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                          Ms Henderson,
                                           
                                          I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                                           
                                          I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                                           
                                          TR


                                          "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                                          Chris,
                                           
                                          I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                                           
                                          Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                                           
                                          Sincerely,
                                           
                                          Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                                           

                                          From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                          Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                          To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                           
                                          We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                                           
                                          And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                                           
                                          Chris Kelly
                                          Director
                                          Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                                          WashingtonDC Chapter
                                          www.armmat.org
                                           
                                           
                                          In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                                          I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                          prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                          drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                          individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                          conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                          about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                          tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                          websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                          I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                          like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                          the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                          socioeconomic status etc.

                                          Thanks in advance

                                            

                                          --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Check this out
                                          >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                                          >   
                                          >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                                          these encounters in the yard.
                                          >
                                          > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                          >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                          with
                                          > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                          are
                                          > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                          can I
                                          > do.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Policing for Prevention
                                          >
                                          >
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                                        • Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)
                                          Silent_warrior246 needed information on how to address cars stopping on their block with prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
                                          Message 20 of 24 , May 1, 2006
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                                            Silent_warrior246 needed information on how to address cars stopping on their block with prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
                                            done.  Silent_warrior246 also wrote that “have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what can I do.” 

                                             

                                            Will you join your neighbors on Wednesday May 3, 2006 @ 6:30 PM at the corner of First and O streets NE.?  I am Fayette Vaughn-Lee Community Outreach Coordinator for the 5th  District, we are the people who are affected, the goal is to develop strategies that address the main issues What is it about 1st street that is conducive to prostitution.  How can we List serv members and people witnessing the problem help Silent_warrior246?   

                                            If any have the will to assist Silent_warrior246, and the others community members, please come.

                                            -----Original Message-----
                                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                            Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:32 AM
                                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                            I'm sorry but I don't pay the high taxes that I do in DC to have to go out and do my own police, drug enforcement, drug addiction counseling, and prostitution clean-up. I am not trained IN ANY WAY to deal with these issues -- that's why we have the MPD and our DC government officials.
                                             
                                            And where are the churches in our neighborhood .. they don't seem to be concerned about their neighborhood at all ... maybe if they gave more consideration about actually helping their community and less about how they can convince the Mayor to allow them to illegally double park on Sundays, you'd get more of the "community" involvement you're clamoring for.
                                             
                                            I already take my life in my own hands EVERY DAY that I walk in my neighborhood ... why would I want to put myself and family in even greater risk letting this criminal element know that I'm in the Orange Hat brigade trying to get them off my streets.
                                             
                                            How many years have we been complaining about this area? You've had plenty of time for a plan to be developed and enacted ... WE NEED ACTION not more planning meetings on why the drug dealers/prostitutes are in our neighborhood ... we know why ... because it is a safe haven for them to do their business. They were out at 8:00 AM SUNDAY morning selling their drugs! No cops patroling the area = safe haven.  We were told we had foot patrols in our area ... however no one has seen a single one walk the beat along 1st St in the afternoon or mornings when we are all walking our dogs. We see what goes on in our neighborhoods and who comes and goes ... and we know who isn't there.
                                             
                                            You've had your walk-throughs, you've heard from us, now, let's see the action based upon that information.

                                            "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                            Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law Enforcement (directed patrol, tactical initiatives, and follow-up investigations), Neighborhood Partnerships (collaboratively applying resources to repeat incidents to prevent them from reoccurring), and Systemic Prevention (projects which address the underlying causes and conditions of this issue) we intend to collapse this “crime triangle”.
                                             
                                            Your Community needs you - call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188
                                            -----Original Message-----
                                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                            Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:35 AM
                                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                            We have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer.  Remember Hanover of the 1980's?  IMHO, we need to take a new approach.
                                             
                                             
                                            In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:
                                            A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)
                                             
                                            Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 
                                            TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188
                                            -----Original Message-----
                                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                            Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                            Ms. Vaughn-Lee,
                                             
                                            I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?
                                             
                                            Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.
                                             
                                            The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.
                                             
                                            TR


                                            "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:
                                            Good Morning All,
                                             
                                            I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.
                                             
                                            I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street .   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.
                                              
                                            Fayette Vaughn-Lee
                                            Community Outreach Coordinator 5D
                                            202 698-0188
                                            -----Original Message-----
                                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                            Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                            Ms Henderson,
                                             
                                            I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.
                                             
                                            I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.
                                             
                                            TR


                                            "Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:
                                            Chris,
                                             
                                            I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.
                                             
                                            Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.
                                             
                                            Sincerely,
                                             
                                            Kathy Henderson, 5B10
                                             

                                            From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                            Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                            To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                             
                                            We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.
                                             
                                            And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.
                                             
                                            Chris Kelly
                                            Director
                                            Advocates for Recovery through Medicine
                                            WashingtonDC Chapter
                                            www.armmat.org
                                             
                                             
                                            In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:
                                            I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                            prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                            drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                            individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                            conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                            about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                            tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                            websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                            I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                            like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                            the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                            socioeconomic status etc.

                                            Thanks in advance

                                              

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                                            these encounters in the yard.
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                                            > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                            >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                            with
                                            > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                            are
                                            > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                            can I
                                            > do.
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                                            Good Afternoon All, I understand the frustration and cynicism citizens may feel when faced with daily criminal activity in the neighborhood. I encourage every
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                                              Good Afternoon All,

                                               

                                              I understand the frustration and cynicism citizens may feel when faced with daily criminal activity in the neighborhood. I encourage every able bodied citizen residing in the affected area to participate in the walk through, challenging the current paradigm and communicating that citizens will not stand idly by and allow others to abuse the community. It is important to unite with police and community partners to take an active stand against obvious criminal activity. I know this strategy works, I have used it as part of a larger action plan and my community is safer as a result.

                                               

                                              Sincerely,

                                               

                                              Kathy Henderson, 5B10

                                               


                                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)
                                              Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:42 PM
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
                                              Importance: High

                                               

                                              Silent_warrior246 needed information on how to address cars stopping on their block with prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they are
                                              done.  Silent_warrior246 also wrote that “have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what can I do.” 

                                               

                                              Will you join your neighbors on Wednesday May 3, 2006 @ 6:30 PM at the corner of First and O streets NE.?  I am Fayette Vaughn-Lee Community Outreach Coordinator for the 5th  District, we are the people who are affected, the goal is to develop strategies that address the main issues What is it about 1st street that is conducive to prostitution.  How can we List serv members and people witnessing the problem help Silent_warrior246?  

                                              If any have the will to assist Silent_warrior246, and the others community members, please come.

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                              Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:09 AM
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                              The point is, all of these methods have been tried and have failed.  Who are the "we" who intend to "collapse the "crime triangle"?  We need to change our thinking on the entire drug use issue in America .

                                               

                                              In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:19:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                              Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law Enforcement (directed patrol, tactical initiatives, and follow-up investigations), Neighborhood Partnerships (collaboratively applying resources to repeat incidents to prevent them from reoccurring), and Systemic Prevention (projects which address the underlying causes and conditions of this issue) we intend to collapse this “crime triangle”.

                                               

                                              Your Community needs you - call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                              Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:35 AM
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                              We have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer.  Remember Hanover of the 1980's?  IMHO, we need to take a new approach.

                                               

                                               

                                              In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:

                                              A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved.  Let’s target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue.  I’d like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem.  I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location (1st street).  I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community.  (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streets… the possibilities are endless)

                                               

                                              Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void. 

                                              TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                              Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                              Ms. Vaughn-Lee,

                                               

                                              I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?

                                               

                                              Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.

                                               

                                              The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.

                                               

                                              TR


                                              "Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:

                                              Good Morning All,

                                               

                                              I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.

                                               

                                              I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday.  I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street.   When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.

                                               

                                              Fayette Vaughn-Lee

                                              Community Outreach Coordinator 5D

                                              202 698-0188

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
                                              Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                              Ms Henderson,

                                               

                                              I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff)  respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.

                                               

                                              I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.

                                               

                                              TR


                                              " Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:

                                              Chris,

                                               

                                              I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits “rock bottom”. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.

                                               

                                              Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated “Hot Spot”. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a “fix”. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.

                                               

                                              Sincerely,

                                               

                                              Kathy Henderson, 5B10

                                               


                                              From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
                                              Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
                                              To: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns

                                               

                                              We could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city.  the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc.  Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.

                                               

                                              And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.

                                               

                                              Chris Kelly

                                              Director

                                              Advocates for Recovery through Medicine

                                              Washington DC Chapter

                                              www.armmat.org

                                               

                                               

                                              In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:

                                              I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
                                              prostitution.  It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
                                              drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
                                              individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
                                              conduct their business next to our homes and children.  I've read
                                              about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
                                              tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
                                              websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.

                                              I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
                                              like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
                                              the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
                                              socioeconomic status etc.

                                              Thanks in advance

                                                

                                              --- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              > Check this out
                                              >   http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20060227-124629-2750r.htm
                                              >   
                                              >   There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
                                              these encounters in the yard.
                                              >
                                              > silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
                                              >   Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
                                              with
                                              > prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
                                              are
                                              > done.  Have had confrontations before.  Tag numbers, Photos what
                                              can I
                                              > do.
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Policing for Prevention
                                              >
                                              >
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