1270RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and Johns
- May 1, 2006I'm sorry but I don't pay the high taxes that I do in DC to have to go out and do my own police, drug enforcement, drug addiction counseling, and prostitution clean-up. I am not trained IN ANY WAY to deal with these issues -- that's why we have the MPD and our DC government officials.And where are the churches in our neighborhood .. they don't seem to be concerned about their neighborhood at all ... maybe if they gave more consideration about actually helping their community and less about how they can convince the Mayor to allow them to illegally double park on Sundays, you'd get more of the "community" involvement you're clamoring for.I already take my life in my own hands EVERY DAY that I walk in my neighborhood ... why would I want to put myself and family in even greater risk letting this criminal element know that I'm in the Orange Hat brigade trying to get them off my streets.How many years have we been complaining about this area? You've had plenty of time for a plan to be developed and enacted ... WE NEED ACTION not more planning meetings on why the drug dealers/prostitutes are in our neighborhood ... we know why ... because it is a safe haven for them to do their business. They were out at 8:00 AM SUNDAY morning selling their drugs! No cops patroling the area = safe haven. We were told we had foot patrols in our area ... however no one has seen a single one walk the beat along 1st St in the afternoon or mornings when we are all walking our dogs. We see what goes on in our neighborhoods and who comes and goes ... and we know who isn't there.You've had your walk-throughs, you've heard from us, now, let's see the action based upon that information.
"Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:Yes I remember, the walk through is just a means to galvanize our community. Policing for Prevention is the approach to get the job done - with Focused Law Enforcement (directed patrol, tactical initiatives, and follow-up investigations), Neighborhood Partnerships (collaboratively applying resources to repeat incidents to prevent them from reoccurring), and Systemic Prevention (projects which address the underlying causes and conditions of this issue) we intend to collapse this âcrime triangleâ.Your Community needs you - call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188-----Original Message-----
From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and JohnsWe have been having "walk throughs" in this area for the twenty years I have lived here, and nothing changes. in terms of drug use and prostition...this has been a drug area for over sixty years, perhaps even longer. Remember Hanover of the 1980's? IMHO, we need to take a new approach.In a message dated 5/1/2006 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@... writes:A walk through will serve as the catalyst to get our neighbors involved. Letâs target this problem with what we have, us our ingenuity, our drive to rid our community of this issue. Iâd like to develop a partnership with the community, the police and other agencies to impact this neighborhood crime and disorder problem. I think if we combined our efforts we would be able to design strategies that address this crime triangle the offender (prostitutes & johns), the victims (us & prostitutes), the Location ( 1st street ). I think if we knew why 1st street is conducive to prostitutes we may be able to address the issues, create a plan, and take the needed actions that support with the revitalization or our community. (Today prostitutes & johns, tomorrow drugs sales on our streetsâ¦ the possibilities are endless)Your Community needs you, if you drop out now the rest of us will have to fill the void.TR call me, sounds like you have good insight on this issues you are an important component in helping us find solutions to this problem and we could use your help. Fayette Vaughn-lee 202 698-0188-----Original Message-----
From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and JohnsMs. Vaughn-Lee,I think you misunderstood my response.The last thing we need in the neighborhood right now is another walk through by some DC officials .... what good does that do?Evidently nothing since the Police Chief did a walk through a while back and things have only gotten worse since then.The criminal element are not going to stay in place while you walk by them as a group discussing them and the problems in our neighborhood. Walk around if you wish, but do it alone ... like we have to do and observe first hand how it is to live as a resident on this community. You may want to try 1:00 in the afternoon, or 6:30 pm or even 11:00 pm ... that's when we've had our gunfire ... and the drug deals go on all day and night ... and the prostitutes are working in the evenings. Come out and observe it all ... but do it alone (or as a pair) but not in a large bureaucratic mass.TR
"Vaughn-Lee, Fayette (MPD)" <Fayette.Vaughn-Lee@...> wrote:Good Morning All,I would like to be part of a walk through, Understanding the problem is the step in problem solving that is widely overlooked when communities search for solutions to deterring festering crimes in the community and in the development of a strategic plan to combat these issues.I am available next week perhaps Wednesday or Thursday. I would also like to invite Ms Henderson, Chris Kelly, John Galt, silent_warrior246, cl_cousart, others who would help us, and of course our neighbors on 1st Street . When a date in finalized I can also request that an Officer walk with us.Fayette Vaughn-LeeCommunity Outreach Coordinator 5D202 698-0188-----Original Message-----
From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of TruxtonResident
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and JohnsMs Henderson,I don't see how you can say we are becoming a 'safer community' when the drug dealers have taken over 1st Street between N and P, they continue to have sidewalk drinking parties all evening on school property (the sidewalk across from 1417 1st Street - the group that used to hang out in front of that house has merely moved across the street on to DC property), they party on the basketball court at the NY Ave playground after the park is supposedly closed and the prostitutes continue to turn tricks along N Street at Dunbar High school and all along NY Avenue (near Bladensburg). Calls for assistance from 311/911 do nothing (by the time they (our out-numbered police staff) respond, the act has been completed and they are gone - or they are given a slap on the wrist by our judicial system and they are back on the streets within hours) as well as requests for assistance from DC Government officials.I suggest that you actually come down to our area any evening and spend some time with us and see what we have to live with day in and day out. Merely walking through once in a blue moon for a neighborhood tour doesn't cut it. Try living here.TR
"Henderson, Kathy (DYRS)" <kathy.henderson@...> wrote:Chris,I must respectfully disagree with you. The Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administration or APRA offers a number of treatment options to individuals that want treatment. Addicts cannot be treated until the individual is ready to admit he or she has a problem; this usually does not happen until the individual hits ârock bottomâ. If they risk real jail time, losing their job or families then they may be ready. The average addict, including prostitutes do not seek treatment, they want to continue doing what they are doing in our communities. A combination of enforcement and compassion, which includes treatment opportunities, is an effective strategy to address this issue.Finally, the community I represent has had a number of the challenges we discussed here and is a designated âHot Spotâ. We are becoming a safer community and our calls for service have decreased since we are now holding people accountable for their actions. We do not tolerate sidewalk-drinking parties, prostitutes in our alleys, addicts breaking into our homes and cars because they need resources for a âfixâ. If you really want to help similarly situated individuals, hold them accountable, and then help them if they want help.Sincerely,Kathy Henderson, 5B10
From: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com [mailto: MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of DCReardon@...
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MPD-5D] Re: Prostitutes and JohnsWe could do a lot more to help with the alcoholism and addictions if we could get an adequately funded treatment system in this city. the Addiction Prevention and Recovery Administarion has been flat funded for the past seven years, although drugs and alcohol personally affect over 30% of DC residents, not counting family members, friends, employers etc. Without treatment, we will continue to have these problems. Addiction is a treatable disease, but our politicians unfortunately do not see it that way, thus the severe lack of resources.And many DC prostitutes are also addicts, someone else posted about HIPS "Helping Individual Prostitutes Survive" this is a very worthy enterprise to support if you are interested in this issue.Chris KellyDirectorAdvocates for Recovery through MedicineWashington DC Chapterwww.armmat.orgIn a message dated 4/25/2006 11:35:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cl_cousart@... writes:I absolutely agree with making the District an inhospitable area for
prostitution. It's the same situation as with drug addicts and
drunks - we are not going to eliminate the problems these
individuals deal with but we can make it uncomfortable for them to
conduct their business next to our homes and children. I've read
about people in neighborhoods photographing and tracing the license
tags of johns and publishing their names in the community papers and
websites for everyone to see which might act as a deterrent.
I was wondering if anyone else had ever heard of a community effort
like this and also if the police could provide some statistics on
the average john they apprehend - DC resident vs. MD/VA visitor,
socioeconomic status etc.
Thanks in advance
--- In MPD-5D@yahoogroups.com , John Galt <johngalt332002@...> wrote:
> Check this out
> There is nothing worse than finding the discarded trash from
these encounters in the yard.
> silent_warrior246 <silent_warrior246@...> wrote:
> Need information on how to address cars stopping on my block
> prostitutes performing sex acts and leaving their trash after they
> done. Have had confrontations before. Tag numbers, Photos what
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