On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Greg Walsh <greg.walsh@...> wrote:

I guess OziExplorer wpt format is the simplest and most portable. That can be dropped into Garmin devices or translated and installed using GPSDump.

cheers

Greg

On 11 May 2016, at 1:08 AM, Jan and Cindi jan.cindi@... [skyhigh_topica] <skyhigh_topica-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Greg, I can look into generating a waypoint file, should be easy enough. What format would you like?

Cheers,

Jan

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Greg Walsh <greg.walsh@...> wrote:

Has this no landing property been added to the Openair files available from the site guide?

 

For people who don't have airspace aware instruments could the no landing zones be supplied as a set of waypoints (with an unfriendly looking symbol)? It should be relatively easy to generate a point at the centre of each polygon if you have suitable mapping software (I don't).

 

Regards

 

Greg

 

From: skyhigh_topica@yahoogroups.com [mailto:skyhigh_topica@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Karl Texler' brightvt@... [skyhigh_topica]
Sent: Monday, 9 May 2016 8:18 PM
To: NEVHGC Members Forum; skyhigh topica; MHGC
Subject: Re: {NEVHGC Members Forum} Re: [skyhigh_topica] NEVHGC - Pilots Landing in No-Landing Zones

 

  

Hi All

The property area where an outlanding pilot was harassed by an irate landowner on Saturday 7 May 2016 while landing in Freeburgh (in the Ovens Valley near Bright) has now been included in the VHPA site guide.

Please take the time to refresh your knowledge via this link:

http://www.vhpa.org.au/siteguidemap.html?type=open&spn=0.4,0.19&ll=-36.5922711,146.9375181

Pilots should aim always to fly so that they have a clear glide to a known permitted landing area. Areas neither shaded in green nor red should not be assumed to be permitted landing areas.

As always, please contact NEVHGC as soon as possible in the event of a bad interaction with a landowner so that NEVHGC can manage the issue locally and maintain our relationship with the local community. 


Cheers!

Karl Texler
Senior Safety Officer
North East Victoria Hang Gliding Club

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{NEVHGC Members Forum} Re: [skyhigh_topica] NEVHGC - Pilots Landing in No-Landing Zones


Hi All

Further to below:

Yesterday there was an incident where a pilot was harassed by an irate landowner.

This pilot subsequently posted about their experience on Facebook.

I respectfully ask that pilots not broadcast such incidents on social media, at least not until they have contacted NEVHGC first. This gives NEVHGC the opportunity to resolve matters and take steps (such as updating "no landing" areas) to prevent it happening again.

Detailling such incidents on social media:

1. Creates undue publicity that has the potential to create community backlash against our sport
2. Invites uninformed and out of context commentary which can further inflame the situation
3. Pre-empts the role that NEVHGC has in managing relationships with the non-flying community in the area
4. Can make it harder for NEVHGC to resolve matters to the point where an antagonistic landowner undertakes to respect the rights of pilots while still exercising their own landowner rights (which is always the NEVHGC end goal in such discussions)

Please contact NEVHGC as soon as possible after the incident.

NEVHGC committee member contact details are on the NEVHGC website. 

My mobile telephone number is:

0428 38 5144

My email address is:

brightvt@...
 
Cheers!

Karl Texler
Senior Safety Officer
North East Victoria Hang Gliding Club

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Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:12:23 +1000

Subject:

[skyhigh_topica] NEVHGC - Pilots Landing in No-Landing Zones


 

Hi All

Recently there have been incidents where pilots have landed in properties where such landings are forbidden by the landowner. In at least once instance the resulting exchange between the pilot and the landowner became sufficiently heated that the landowner attempted to confiscate flying equipment and the police had to be called in to resolve the situation.

NEVHGC supports absolutely the right of landowners to not allow us to land on their properties. All current information on where we can and can't land (as well as CAR166 Aerodromes) is available via this link:

http://www.vhpa.org.au/siteguidemap.html?type=open&spn=0.4,0.19&ll=-36.5922711,146.9375181

Pilots wishing to fly in the NEVHGC area are requested to visit this link regularly to keep themselves up to date on where they can and can't land. This applies especially to visiting pilots who may not be familiar with the area. As the required information is readily available, pilots who offend in a non-emergency situation may be dealt with accordingly - up to and including being banned from NEVHGC sites.

NEVHGC accepts that such landings may occur from time to time. In the event that you land in forbidden property:

1. If confronted by the landowner, remain calm, apologise immediately, ask for the best exit route, pack up immediately (or bundle up if it's not a long walk) and leave.

2. If the landowner asks for contact details, provide them with your name and phone number (these landowners may contact NEVHGC and we need to be able to talk with the pilot too).

3. You should notify NEVHGC in any case (the club Senior Safety Officer is a good contact) and let them know what happened. Providing landowner contact details definitely helps.

You have certain rights in such a situation:

1. The landowner is not allowed to physically or verbally assault you, threaten you in any way or interfere with your flying equipment (including attempting to confiscate it).

2. The landowner must give you the opportunity to leave his property in good time via the normal entry/exit route (forcing you to climb a barb wire fence is not acceptable).

3. If you are complying with a reasonable request to leave, you are not guilty of tresspass.

If you feel your rights have been compromised, the police should be contacted (as well as NEVHGC).

NEVHGC is very conscious of the importance of a good relationship with the local landowning community. Respect for non-landing areas plays a key role in maintaining this relationship. When landowner related incidents occur, NEVHGC will play an active role in resolving the resulting issues so that we can continue to with our sport in this region.  


Cheers!

Karl Texler
Senior Safety Officer
North East Victoria Hang Gliding Club

Wally Arcidiacono
President
North East Victoria Hang Gliding Club

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