On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:33 AM, 'Karl Texler' brightvt@... [MHGC] <MHGC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Jeremy

Have a look at the site guide:

http://vhpa.org.au/Sites/Mona%20Vale.html

This appears to be a site where I would want onsite advice from an experienced local pilot before considering attempting to fly it for the first time.
 
Cheers!

Karl Texler

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Intresting after watching sunrise this morning the guy mentioned that all of a sudden his wing was in front of him probably rotor of the head land if the wind was cross l suspect looking at the footage? Any one flown there?Most likely l suspect that why no other pilots were flying ? All basic suff covered in the course but we all stuff up and make mistakes . 

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From: "'Karl Texler' brightvt@... [skyhigh_topica]"

Date:17/07/2015 8:31 AM (GMT+10:00)

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Subject: Re: [MHGC] Re: [skyhigh_topica] Novice lawsuit against local council and HGFA

 

Hi All

I do appreciate that this guy is going to need funds to support himself for the future. He would most likely not have been insured against injury from such an activity and the disability pension wouldn't go close to covering his expenses.

However I think his chances of accessing funds would have been better through avenues such as crowd funding rather that trying this litigious approach (which is not necessarily likely to succeed). If he had tried crowd funding, even some members of our close knit flying community may have considered putting in to help him. As it is now, with the threat that this case poses to our sport, I can't see any pilot supporting him now.
 
Cheers!

Karl Texler

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All over Sunrise this morning. :(

Though, his lawyer did most the talking.

T.

On 16 Jul 2015 8:22 am, "'Karl Texler' brightvt@... [MHGC]" <MHGC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi All

This will be a good test case for the HGFA systems and concepts of land owner liability.

As I see it, this (supervised/restricted rated) pilot was operating in contravention of the HGFA operations manual as he did not appear to be under the direct supervision of an intermediate or higher rated pilot immediately prior to his launch.  The HGFA has disciplined pilots for doing just that - so HGFA can be said to be implementing its own procedures with due diligence.

While I feel very much for the pilot and the life changing injuries he has suffered, I hope that the outcome of this case is such that it shows that our sport doesn't expose third parties (such as the HGFA and landowners) to legal liabilities as a result of non-compliant activities.

I also hope that our waiver system for HGFA members is shown to be sufficiently robust as this system protects volunteers such as supervising pilots, launch marshals and safety officers.

Cheers!

Karl Texler
Senior Safety Officer
North East Victoria Hang Gliding Club

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It makes me nervous,

Bob Saville

On 15 July 2015 at 22:11, Peter Kemeny peter.kemeny@... [skyhigh_topica] <skyhigh_topica-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I feel sorry for the guy for sure, but if he's a licensed pilot he's signed the waiver, https://members.hgfa.asn.au/hgfa-waiver.php, end of story.

I hope he has a no win no fee deal with his lawyer.

This case has the potential to make all our land owners very nervous.

Also, if the waiver is anything less than rock solid  the system of supervising novice pilots won't work. The supervising pilot could be exposing himself to a potentially huge legal liability.

Cheers

Peter

Peter C. Kemeny

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Skype Me: peterkemeny

On 15 July 2015 at 21:50, looperblooper@... [skyhigh_topica] <skyhigh_topica-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

http://mobile.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/paraglider-mathew-mchugh-sues-for-2-million-after-losing-a-leg-at-mona-vale-rock-face/story-fnii5s3x-1227441897152

A reminder of why supervised pilots must never fly with out supervision of int/adv pilot.

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