Re: Outstanding analysis of MEG
- --- In MEG_builders@y..., Rick Hukkanen <ricker_h@y...> wrote:
> While Shawn is busy debunking 'perpetual motion' onSorry, but it's not. This is an extremely common misconception among
> one hand, part of his argument states the obvious fact
> that 'the magnetic field produced by a permanent
> magnet is constant and unchanging in time'. Well,
> HELLO... This sounds like a 'perpetual' energy flow to
free energy fans.
A magnet is no more a source of 'perpetual' energy than a chair or a
coathook. All three can hold up an object by applying a continuous
force to it. So what? Force and energy are two entirely different
things. Energy is force acting through a distance; unless the magnet
(or chair or coathook) moves, no energy is delivered to anything.
A magnet *does* store a relatively small amount of energy in its
magnetic field; that's how an inductor works. But you can't extract
that energy without depleting the magnetic field. It is certainly no
"infinite" source of energy.
- --- In MEG_builders@y..., "Robert Bielik" <robert.bielik@g...> wrote:
> Wavelength/antenna length ~ 40 . Yet the CFA performs _better_ thanyour normal quarter-wavelength antenna. Go figure...
Actually, the CFA does *not* perform better. The theory behind it is
totally flawed, and its inventors are seriously deluded. See
http://home.att.net/~jnrstanley/mainpres1.html (be sure to see the
notes at the end).
The fact is that almost *any* electrical circuit, no matter how small,
will radiate *some* energy at almost any frequency used in the circuit
unless great care is taken in its construction. That's why
electromagnetic interference can be so hard to cure.
But there's a very big difference between an accidental radiator and a
device designed to radiate efficiently (i.e., an antenna). Because
radio systems operate without wires, the attenuation between
transmitter and receiver is very large. Ergo, receivers must be
extremely sensitive. So an accidental radiator near a receiver can
interfere with it even if only a miniscule fraction of the energy
within the radiator is actually radiated.
Such is certainly the case with Naudin's load resistor. I'm sure that
if you connected a pickup coil to a scope and held the coil near his
load resistor, you'd see a signal on the scope. But only a tiny
fraction of the energy fed to the resistor is being picked up in this
way. The vast majority is still being dissipated as heat in the
resistor. There is simply no "missing energy" that would account for
the discrepancy between resistor heating and Naudin's measurements.
Naudin's claim of EM radiation is simply desperate handwaving on his
part as he frantically tries to maintain the illusion that MEG is
overunity. It's not.
Thanks for sharing those numbers. I had felt the conditioning made them a virtual open circuit at low volts. Your data shows a much smaller change in resistance VS voltage than I had expected.
I am planning to use a FET to switch the load in and out so there is no load at all during the swing through 0 volts.
From: carbonprobe [mailto:carbonprobe@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:47 PM
Subject: [MEG_builders] More Conditioned resistor measurements
1.145M Ohm regular resistor measurements
Vpp V rms I rms Power Resistance(V/I)
190 67 .088mA .005W 761K
400 141 .18mA .025W 783K
700 247 .31mA .076W 798K
1080 382 .49mA .187W 779K
2000 707 .88mA .622W 803K
2800 990 1.25mA 1.24W 792K
I and V wave forms are perfectly in phase
frequency = 22.4KHz
1.149M Ohm Conditioned resistor measurements
Vpp V rms I rms Power X .899 Resistance(V/I)
195 69 .132mA .008W 522K
400 141 .287mA .036W 493K
700 247 .51mA .113W 484K
1000 354 .75mA .238W 472K
2000 707 1.6mA 1.016W 442K
2700 954 2.3mA 1.97W 415K
I and V were out of phase by 25.9 degrees which gives a power factor
frequency = 22.4Khz
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