6429Re: [MEFAwards] Movie-verse versus Bookverse (Re: Question concerning Dwim's list)
- Dec 3 3:31 PMSee, I'd call that a blend right off the bat, as Bard is drawn strictly from
the books and Gimli blowing the horn is definitely from the film, and the
story is doing its best to bind those two things into a single whole. You,
I gather, feel that any hint of the films moves the story into the
movieverse, and even want authors to mention if there are moviebits in
summaries, almost like a warning for unpleasant topics or character deaths.
Part of the problem, I guess, is that I don't ask that question first. And
it is the first question on Dwim's form.
[My story is:
1. Bookverse: based on the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien and/or drafts
made available by C. Tolkien
2. Filmverse: based on a film adaptation of "The Lord of the Rings" or
Now when I think "Bookverse" I don't include anything from Tolkien's letters
or HoME, or even Unfinished Tales. If I were better acquainted with the
Silmarillion, I'd definitely include that in my thinking, but mostly I think
of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings (and in their "most corrected" form,
at that) as being the basic canon of the Bookverse.
HoME, the Letters, etc., are in my noggin as "drafts and background
The films (and for that matter, the audio performances by people like the
BBC), are "adaptations", some of which would clearly be Alternate Universes
if they were fanfic.
And of course there Alternate Universes of the usual variety as well, which
for me are always stories that try to answer "what if some factor were
changed" and extrapolate forward.
Except for some of the Alternate Universe/Crossover type stories, where
Frodo is living in modern New York and Sam is the building superintendent,
most fanfic falls within a scope of Time and Place which is consistent with
JRRT's published works.
So what if we skip that question for now, and save it for later. Now we
have two primary questions on the form (and again, they're not in the form
I'd divide things.)... Hmm. I can see that what I really need to do is
explain how I would do it if I were in charge of the universe.
Okay. Might take me a day or so, depending on the insomnia. I'll go hunt
up Dwim's most current form of the form and see if I can make a coherent
contribution. Not that I expect it to be used, mind you, but so you can see
how I'm thinking.
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